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Topic: So um, Avalon, yeah...It's been 2 weeks, and we need some answers. - page 2. (Read 4563 times)

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*sharpens his pitch fork*

In all seriousness, I think everyone should just chill out a bit. BFL is currently shipping at such a slow speed and in only 5 Gh increments, so this should not affect our ROI much as long as Avalon starts shipping soon.

I think they are having problems with the installation/set up of their new production equipment.
No matter what happened. As they missed their promise to ship the batch#2 machines within April, they should give us an update instead of keeping silence.
legendary
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*sharpens his pitch fork*

In all seriousness, I think everyone should just chill out a bit. BFL is currently shipping at such a slow speed and in only 5 Gh increments, so this should not affect our ROI much as long as Avalon starts shipping soon.

I think they are having problems with the installation/set up of their new production equipment.
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Although, it would be really, really weird for them to take all that preorder money, release one batch, and then just run off with it. 

Not really.

If you are trying to scam a bunch of people, releasing a small batch will allow you to extend the time frame of the scam (people will wait longer if they see an actual product), and allow you bait new suckers in ("if those other people got one, surely it' not a scam").  Basically, "the long con" by selective scamming.

That said, I know nothing about avalon, I am just playing devils advocate here.

Seems to me that they would be better off continuing to produce chips.

They already invested in the equipment, and have a reputation as the only company to deliver products in bulk.

I think they would profit more by sticking around.
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Although, it would be really, really weird for them to take all that preorder money, release one batch, and then just run off with it. 

Not really.

If you are trying to scam a bunch of people, releasing a small batch will allow you to extend the time frame of the scam (people will wait longer if they see an actual product), and allow you bait new suckers in ("if those other people got one, surely it' not a scam").  Basically, "the long con" by selective scamming.

That said, I know nothing about avalon, I am just playing devils advocate here.
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Lot's of people have Yifu's phone number.  I won't post it here though.
So, why not to make a call, and ask Yifu: "WTF dude?"
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There is a lot of people looking for the shipment of batch#2. And due to delay of batch#2, batch#3 will soon be involved to the delay.
What can we do beyond waiting?

I asked/suggested in a similar thread whether anyone has tried calling them? The phone number was in their previous email. I'm sure we have a lot of Chinese friends here waiting for their ASICs, perhaps someone could try calling them?
it's 3 day holiday in china right now.

Hmm, how many holidays do Chinese have Smiley It seems like they got it pretty good. 1 Month long new year, 3 day holiday...etc etc


It *sounds* like they got it good, but the PRC is weird and workers have to work extra days on the weekend to make up for any days off for holiday. "Hey, it's labor day! Celebrate your hard work by having a couple days off! Oh, yeah, but you have to work this weekend and next weekend to make up for the missing days."
legendary
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The number is for Mr. Chen, a used chip vendor in Beijing.  He has nothing to do with Avalon and just photographs the mailing label and emails it to Yifu.

Please don't bother poor Mr. Chen.

Lot's of people have Yifu's phone number.  I won't post it here though.

I also am eagerly waiting for an update, and concerned about the complete lack of communication.  I hope I don't have to wait for the bitcoin conference to track Yifu down.
DO WANT. send it through PM Wink

Hmm, how many holidays do Chinese have Smiley It seems like they got it pretty good. 1 Month long new year, 3 day holiday...etc etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China
legendary
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There is a lot of people looking for the shipment of batch#2. And due to delay of batch#2, batch#3 will soon be involved to the delay.
What can we do beyond waiting?

I asked/suggested in a similar thread whether anyone has tried calling them? The phone number was in their previous email. I'm sure we have a lot of Chinese friends here waiting for their ASICs, perhaps someone could try calling them?
it's 3 day holiday in china right now.

Hmm, how many holidays do Chinese have Smiley It seems like they got it pretty good. 1 Month long new year, 3 day holiday...etc etc
legendary
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1452
There is a lot of people looking for the shipment of batch#2. And due to delay of batch#2, batch#3 will soon be involved to the delay.
What can we do beyond waiting?

I asked/suggested in a similar thread whether anyone has tried calling them? The phone number was in their previous email. I'm sure we have a lot of Chinese friends here waiting for their ASICs, perhaps someone could try calling them?
it's 3 day holiday in china right now.
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There is a lot of people looking for the shipment of batch#2. And due to delay of batch#2, batch#3 will soon be involved to the delay.
What can we do beyond waiting?

I asked/suggested in a similar thread whether anyone has tried calling them? The phone number was in their previous email. I'm sure we have a lot of Chinese friends here waiting for their ASICs, perhaps someone could try calling them?
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we already know number 4.
remember we are not special Smiley
sr. member
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There is a lot of people looking for the shipment of batch#2. And due to delay of batch#2, batch#3 will soon be involved to the delay.
What can we do beyond waiting?
sr. member
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Nope. When I signed up for batch 2, I knew it could be a piss in the wind. Oh well

Although, it would be really, really weird for them to take all that preorder money, release one batch, and then just run off with it.  I have little doubt about their ability to deliver a product.  Even BFL was destined to eventually deliver something.  The big difference is always the timetable, and who to trust as the quickest.  My guess is that Avalon is running into legitimate delays and don't want to face the music. 
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Does Avalon give refunds?

Nope. When I signed up for batch 2, I knew it could be a piss in the wind. Oh well.
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Does Avalon give refunds?
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Yes, we know you guys must be busy, but I could list a million reasons why it's better to keep your customers informed rather than guessing.  Whether you care more about profits or the integrity of bitcoin itself, just give us a quick update.
  • It restores confidence in your users.
  • It prevents FUD, and a torrent of angry or confused emails
  • It makes customers more likely to trust and buy from you in the future
  • It reflects well on bitcoin when its companies are responsible and open.

Quite simply, here's what we need to know.

1.) When do you estimate shipping of the next batches to begin?
2.) How long will it take to ship an entire batch from start to finish?
3.) In your honest opinion based on experience, when will batch #2 and #3 devices begin to arrive to customers?
4.) Is there any special preference to how orders will be shipped?
5.) What is your preferred method for notifying your customers when their order is on the way?  


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