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vip
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Right, must be a coincidence that the weekend he closes shop we see huge dumps after a large rally.

Not at all...



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legendary
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I had a thought.... what if unthinkable happens, miracle of sorts. That anonymous guy who holds right now reportedly 500k BTC of sucker's money will somehow give to those suckers ~600k BTC indeed. Hypothetically speaking. Would I need to apologize? I thought and thought and pondered this unlikely eventuality... and no I will not apologize.

Well maybe, just maybe, I would apologize to some specific person if I really said something real wrong...

Otherwise, hell no! Whatever will happen to the pirates op, tomorrow another anonymous personage starts another ponzi looking op, I will say the same thing again. I have nothing to apologize for in either case, and it is not my mission to please anyone here.


What makes your proof of identity any better than Pirate's?  His name, face, birthdate, and location are all known by me and others who invested.  I know you are a Russian in the UK named Vladimir and that is it.  Don't give me any shit about being well known because pirate is too, just by a different clique.  I don't know any of your contacts.  But I didn't insult your business until I gave you money and was disappointed.

At this point deposits are closed, so you're not saving anyone anymore.
Well then you've not put much effort into looking up Vlad, he's not exactly been secretive about who he is or what his business interests are:

http://uk.linkedin.com/in/vladimirmarchenko
https://plus.google.com/100956912600586230755/about

tl;dr: He offered a lot of mining contracts early on in the life of bitcoin - I nearly bought one back when a 1Gh/s contract for a year was expected to yield about 8000 BTC  Cheesy

I know all about his mining contacts, pirate also does mining.  There are also similar links for Trendon Shavers that are simple to find, but he couldn't be bothered to do any research before slinging accusations, so why should I bother?
hero member
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Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
lol this is quite a kerchinkle
legendary
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I feel like buying!
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Right, must be a coincidence that the weekend he closes shop we see huge dumps after a large rally.

This..

Because everyone is panicing.  Talk to any of the lenders that aren't pirate passthroughs.  Everyone wants to withdraw their money and are apparently selling on the market.

If pirate really weren't going to pay back, why would he say anything?  If he wasn't going to pay back and intended to just dump everything, he'd keep it as quiet as possible and let people support the dumping unknowingly, right?

I think people were moving USD into bitcoin, more so than they normally would, to take advantage of pirate's rates.  This effectively pushed us up to a year high.  Now that the rates aren't available, you have people moving the USD back out of bitcoin.

This has been said like 8 times already, but a scammer says things like this to buy time. He stopped paying back principal: don't want everyone on your tail at hour zero. Natural part of the HYIP life cycle.

But like Vlad, I hope I'm wrong, even though the apparent shills have been jerks to me. Every once in a while, a miracle would be nice. Good luck!

I do agree that the drop is due to widespread panic as opposed to Pirate himself selling. If it is a scam, he's likely converted most of his coins long ago (at least any coins he didn't squirrel away). Many people are simply cashing out.
sr. member
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I had a thought.... what if unthinkable happens, miracle of sorts. That anonymous guy who holds right now reportedly 500k BTC of sucker's money will somehow give to those suckers ~600k BTC indeed. Hypothetically speaking. Would I need to apologize? I thought and thought and pondered this unlikely eventuality... and no I will not apologize.

Well maybe, just maybe, I would apologize to some specific person if I really said something real wrong...

Otherwise, hell no! Whatever will happen to the pirates op, tomorrow another anonymous personage starts another ponzi looking op, I will say the same thing again. I have nothing to apologize for in either case, and it is not my mission to please anyone here.


What makes your proof of identity any better than Pirate's?  His name, face, birthdate, and location are all known by me and others who invested.  I know you are a Russian in the UK named Vladimir and that is it.  Don't give me any shit about being well known because pirate is too, just by a different clique.  I don't know any of your contacts.  But I didn't insult your business until I gave you money and was disappointed.

At this point deposits are closed, so you're not saving anyone anymore.
Well then you've not put much effort into looking up Vlad, he's not exactly been secretive about who he is or what his business interests are:

http://uk.linkedin.com/in/vladimirmarchenko
https://plus.google.com/100956912600586230755/about

tl;dr: He offered a lot of mining contracts early on in the life of bitcoin - I nearly bought one back when a 1Gh/s contract for a year was expected to yield about 8000 BTC  Cheesy
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I had a thought.... what if unthinkable happens, miracle of sorts. That anonymous guy who holds right now reportedly 500k BTC of sucker's money will somehow give to those suckers ~600k BTC indeed. Hypothetically speaking. Would I need to apologize? I thought and thought and pondered this unlikely eventuality... and no I will not apologize.

Well maybe, just maybe, I would apologize to some specific person if I really said something real wrong...

Otherwise, hell no! Whatever will happen to the pirates op, tomorrow another anonymous personage starts another ponzi looking op, I will say the same thing again. I have nothing to apologize for in either case, and it is not my mission to please anyone here.


What makes your proof of identity any better than Pirate's?  His name, face, birthdate, and location are all known by me and others who invested.  I know you are a Russian in the UK named Vladimir and that is it.  Don't give me any shit about being well known because pirate is too, just by a different clique.  I don't know any of your contacts.  But I didn't insult your business until I gave you money and was disappointed.

At this point deposits are closed, so you're not saving anyone anymore.

Translation: Vladimir you suck. Pirate is my friend...my boyfriend. Also my ppt/whatever is closed too.  Kiss
sr. member
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I had a thought.... what if unthinkable happens, miracle of sorts. That anonymous guy who holds right now reportedly 500k BTC of sucker's money will somehow give to those suckers ~600k BTC indeed. Hypothetically speaking. Would I need to apologize? I thought and thought and pondered this unlikely eventuality... and no I will not apologize.

Well maybe, just maybe, I would apologize to some specific person if I really said something real wrong...

Otherwise, hell no! Whatever will happen to the pirates op, tomorrow another anonymous personage starts another ponzi looking op, I will say the same thing again. I have nothing to apologize for in either case, and it is not my mission to please anyone here.


What makes your proof of identity any better than Pirate's?  His name, face, birthdate, and location are all known by me and others who invested.  I know you are a Russian in the UK named Vladimir and that is it.  Don't give me any shit about being well known because pirate is too, just by a different clique.  I don't know any of your contacts.  But I didn't insult your business until I gave you money and was disappointed.

At this point deposits are closed, so you're not saving anyone anymore.

Meh, don't waste your time with him.   One positive thing to come out of all this is that now lot's of people know what sort of person Vlad is, and to never do business with him.   I'm pretty happy with that outcome Smiley
legendary
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I had a thought.... what if unthinkable happens, miracle of sorts. That anonymous guy who holds right now reportedly 500k BTC of sucker's money will somehow give to those suckers ~600k BTC indeed. Hypothetically speaking. Would I need to apologize? I thought and thought and pondered this unlikely eventuality... and no I will not apologize.

Well maybe, just maybe, I would apologize to some specific person if I really said something real wrong...

Otherwise, hell no! Whatever will happen to the pirates op, tomorrow another anonymous personage starts another ponzi looking op, I will say the same thing again. I have nothing to apologize for in either case, and it is not my mission to please anyone here.


What makes your proof of identity any better than Pirate's?  His name, face, birthdate, and location are all known by me and others who invested.  I know you are a Russian in the UK named Vladimir and that is it.  Don't give me any shit about being well known because pirate is too, just by a different clique.  I don't know any of your contacts.  But I didn't insult your business until I gave you money and was disappointed.

At this point deposits are closed, so you're not saving anyone anymore.
sr. member
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I'm gonna go ahead and repost this here because it's fantastic:

...Another way to look at it is IF you run a business that is 100% legit but it utterly indistinguishable from a ponzi scheme then guess what .... the risk that it will be confused with a ponzi scheme and you may suffer a lack of liquidity as a result is a business risk.  A risk that both the operator of the business and the investors should have considered.   Lets assume Pirate operation was 100% legit.  Could he have done anything to mitigate that risk?  Transparency?  Delayed withdrawals?  Working with a smaller pool of high net worth investors?  Since he chose NOT to take steps to mitigate that risk factor and the "investors" decided to ignore that risk factor any losses are solely the fault of the operator and investors.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper



At this point, if people lost money, it's their own fault -


And that has always been the case, but it didn't stop you lot rabbiting on about it all day everyday, did it.


Cry harder it suits you and is very entertaining to me.  Cheesy
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At this point, if people lost money, it's their own fault -


And that has always been the case, but it didn't stop you lot rabbiting on about it all day everyday, did it.
hero member
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I had a thought.... what if unthinkable happens, miracle of sorts. That anonymous guy who holds right now reportedly 500k BTC of sucker's money will somehow give to those suckers ~600k BTC indeed. Hypothetically speaking. Would I need to apologize? I thought and thought and pondered this unlikely eventuality... and no I will not apologize.

Well maybe, just maybe, I would apologize to some specific person if I really said something real wrong...

Otherwise, hell no! Whatever will happen to the pirates op, tomorrow another anonymous personage starts another ponzi looking op, I will say the same thing again. I have nothing to apologize for in either case, and it is not my mission to please anyone here.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
smoothie you need to find something fucking better to do that sit around on the forums and talk about what supposedly bad investments others have made. Why does it even concern you? Great if you were right about it being a ponzi does it make you penis larger? If you are wrong you still will sound like you have a stick up you ass. Calm down and go do something productive in real life.  

Oh now we have someone thinking that they can tell me what you do with my time.

Ricepicker go pick some rice. Or go and fulfill your fantasy with large penises. Seems you like them big given you bring them up.

 I'll continue on being smooth.

 Grin Grin Grin
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Wat
The good thing is that we all likely will know rather soon.

In best case scenario I've been completely wrong about all of this all the time, I sincerely hope to be wrong, however unlikely that is.
I'm glad you've said that because the amount of vitriol that has been spread on this forum recently has suggested that some people actually want this to be a ponzi - if only to be right.



They do.  A lot of people have shown their true colours throughout all this.   Sorry excuses for human beings, and they can go jump as far as I'm concerned.

I, too, will be pushing pretty hard for some public apologies from these people should Pirate come through (not to me, I couldn't care less what these pricks think, but to pirate first and foremost and then everyone else they've been complete shits to for the past months).
So I take it you'll be making an apology if it turns out we were right all along?

Well, to certain people, perhaps.  That said, I never once professed to understanding what Pirate has been doing, and I've never said "it's not a ponzi", nor have I attempted to get anyone else to invest with Pirate (as I've always said, what a person does with their own money is their own choice).

My issue throughout all this is the absolutely disgusting way your lot have gone about their little crusade.   It wasn't enough to simply state that you thought investing with Pirate was a bad idea, instead it was just thread after thread after thread, all spouting the same crap, and getting very hostile with people who disagreed with you.   To those people, and it's the majority, no I won't be apologising.  Those people are on ignore, and will stay that way as they're not worth my time.

To the very few who were civil and normal about all this, I'll happily apologise to if they so desire (even considering my first sentence above).  That does NOT include Vlad, Micon, hgmichcahh (whatever), Vandroiy. smoothie and I'm sure plenty more I can't think of right now.  Those people are pretty disgusting excuses for human beings.
Much like fundamental christians trying to stop people going to hell Id imagine.
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RicePicker
smoothie you need to find something fucking better to do that sit around on the forums and talk about what supposedly bad investments others have made. Why does it even concern you? Great if you were right about it being a ponzi does it make you penis larger? If you are wrong you still will sound like you have a stick up you ass. Calm down and go do something productive in real life.  
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The good thing is that we all likely will know rather soon.

In best case scenario I've been completely wrong about all of this all the time, I sincerely hope to be wrong, however unlikely that is.
I'm glad you've said that because the amount of vitriol that has been spread on this forum recently has suggested that some people actually want this to be a ponzi - if only to be right.



They do.  A lot of people have shown their true colours throughout all this.   Sorry excuses for human beings, and they can go jump as far as I'm concerned.

I, too, will be pushing pretty hard for some public apologies from these people should Pirate come through (not to me, I couldn't care less what these pricks think, but to pirate first and foremost and then everyone else they've been complete shits to for the past months).
So I take it you'll be making an apology if it turns out we were right all along?

Well, to certain people, perhaps.  That said, I never once professed to understanding what Pirate has been doing, and I've never said "it's not a ponzi", nor have I attempted to get anyone else to invest with Pirate (as I've always said, what a person does with their own money is their own choice).

My issue throughout all this is the absolutely disgusting way your lot have gone about their little crusade.   It wasn't enough to simply state that you thought investing with Pirate was a bad idea, instead it was just thread after thread after thread, all spouting the same crap, and getting very hostile with people who disagreed with you.   To those people, and it's the majority, no I won't be apologising.  Those people are on ignore, and will stay that way as they're not worth my time.

To the very few who were civil and normal about all this, I'll happily apologise to if they so desire (even considering my first sentence above).  That does NOT include Vlad, Micon, hgmichcahh (whatever), Vandroiy. smoothie and I'm sure plenty more I can't think of right now.  Those people are pretty disgusting excuses for human beings.
By and large, I've merely asked questions, and have, in return, had a vast number of personal attacks directed my way by the BS&T fan-club.

At this point, if people lost money, it's their own fault - they had all the information there available to them, but they didn't pay any attention to it.
If by some miracle BS&T investors get all their money back, they got lucky and should be glad of that.
legendary
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The good thing is that we all likely will know rather soon.

In best case scenario I've been completely wrong about all of this all the time, I sincerely hope to be wrong, however unlikely that is.
I'm glad you've said that because the amount of vitriol that has been spread on this forum recently has suggested that some people actually want this to be a ponzi - if only to be right.



They do.  A lot of people have shown their true colours throughout all this.   Sorry excuses for human beings, and they can go jump as far as I'm concerned.

I, too, will be pushing pretty hard for some public apologies from these people should Pirate come through (not to me, I couldn't care less what these pricks think, but to pirate first and foremost and then everyone else they've been complete shits to for the past months).
So I take it you'll be making an apology if it turns out we were right all along?

Well, to certain people, perhaps.  That said, I never once professed to understanding what Pirate has been doing, and I've never said "it's not a ponzi", nor have I attempted to get anyone else to invest with Pirate (as I've always said, what a person does with their own money is their own choice).

My issue throughout all this is the absolutely disgusting way your lot have gone about their little crusade.   It wasn't enough to simply state that you thought investing with Pirate was a bad idea, instead it was just thread after thread after thread, all spouting the same crap, and getting very hostile with people who disagreed with you.   To those people, and it's the majority, no I won't be apologising.  Those people are on ignore, and will stay that way as they're not worth my time.

To the very few who were civil and normal about all this, I'll happily apologise to if they so desire (even considering my first sentence above).  That does NOT include Vlad, Micon, hgmichcahh (whatever), Vandroiy. smoothie and I'm sure plenty more I can't think of right now.  Those people are pretty disgusting excuses for human beings.

Translation: I'm a fucking cry baby that can't accept that others disagree with me and have their own opinions concerning pirate's operation. I want an apology from you fucks if I'm right and if i'm wrong I won't apologize to certain people. Wah wah wah!
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
The good thing is that we all likely will know rather soon.

In best case scenario I've been completely wrong about all of this all the time, I sincerely hope to be wrong, however unlikely that is.
I'm glad you've said that because the amount of vitriol that has been spread on this forum recently has suggested that some people actually want this to be a ponzi - if only to be right.



They do.  A lot of people have shown their true colours throughout all this.   Sorry excuses for human beings, and they can go jump as far as I'm concerned.

I, too, will be pushing pretty hard for some public apologies from these people should Pirate come through (not to me, I couldn't care less what these pricks think, but to pirate first and foremost and then everyone else they've been complete shits to for the past months).
So I take it you'll be making an apology if it turns out we were right all along?

Well, to certain people, perhaps.  That said, I never once professed to understanding what Pirate has been doing, and I've never said "it's not a ponzi", nor have I attempted to get anyone else to invest with Pirate (as I've always said, what a person does with their own money is their own choice).

My issue throughout all this is the absolutely disgusting way your lot have gone about their little crusade.   It wasn't enough to simply state that you thought investing with Pirate was a bad idea, instead it was just thread after thread after thread, all spouting the same crap, and getting very hostile with people who disagreed with you.   To those people, and it's the majority, no I won't be apologising.  Those people are on ignore, and will stay that way as they're not worth my time.

To the very few who were civil and normal about all this, I'll happily apologise to if they so desire (even considering my first sentence above).  That does NOT include Vlad, Micon, hgmichcahh (whatever), Vandroiy. smoothie and I'm sure plenty more I can't think of right now.  Those people are pretty disgusting excuses for human beings.


Wow so you want an apology if we are wrong but if you are wrong you refuse to apologize.

Looks like you outed yourself as a "pretty disgusting excuse for a human being"

Cry more bitch... lol Grin Grin Grin
sr. member
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The good thing is that we all likely will know rather soon.

In best case scenario I've been completely wrong about all of this all the time, I sincerely hope to be wrong, however unlikely that is.
I'm glad you've said that because the amount of vitriol that has been spread on this forum recently has suggested that some people actually want this to be a ponzi - if only to be right.



They do.  A lot of people have shown their true colours throughout all this.   Sorry excuses for human beings, and they can go jump as far as I'm concerned.

I, too, will be pushing pretty hard for some public apologies from these people should Pirate come through (not to me, I couldn't care less what these pricks think, but to pirate first and foremost and then everyone else they've been complete shits to for the past months).
So I take it you'll be making an apology if it turns out we were right all along?

Well, to certain people, perhaps.  That said, I never once professed to understanding what Pirate has been doing, and I've never said "it's not a ponzi", nor have I attempted to get anyone else to invest with Pirate (as I've always said, what a person does with their own money is their own choice).

My issue throughout all this is the absolutely disgusting way your lot have gone about their little crusade.   It wasn't enough to simply state that you thought investing with Pirate was a bad idea, instead it was just thread after thread after thread, all spouting the same crap, and getting very hostile with people who disagreed with you.   To those people, and it's the majority, no I won't be apologising.  Those people are on ignore, and will stay that way as they're not worth my time.

To the very few who were civil and normal about all this, I'll happily apologise to if they so desire (even considering my first sentence above).  That does NOT include Vlad, Micon, hgmichcahh (whatever), Vandroiy. smoothie and I'm sure plenty more I can't think of right now.  Those people are pretty disgusting excuses for human beings.
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