Topic: So who the hell is still supporting BU? - page 29. (Read 29824 times)

Splitting a new BU Coin is the best solution in this case.

learn consensus, learn diversity, learn decentralisation, learn zero-trust

"No, I've not entertained Franky's ramblings for months now. He's still pretty obsessed with me though, he likes referring to me by my initials for some bizarre reason too. Weirdo, frankly.
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yet CB is the one obsessed with me.

I see that you are still fighting each other pointlessly. I guess your defending of BU is probably what makes you lose credibility, especially after the latest event.

I see that you are still fighting each other pointlessly. I guess your defending of BU is probably what makes you lose credibility, especially after the latest event.

again C B shows no technical knowledge or a willingness to learn.
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So far it appears you are far outnumbered. No people is going to "wake up" and asking their team despite all your attempts. What more can you add to that you're saying everyday? some new fact to convince anybody?

No people is going to "wake up" and asking their team

if people wake up to reality. so that they stop kissing team X ass and stop following like sheep and start asking their favourite team to do it.

Here is Andreas explaining why segwit is the way to go:
https://medium.com/segwit-co/segregated-witness-and-aligning-economic-incentives-with-resource-costs-7d987b135c00#.yrq6jipqg

if you ignore using a hub and instead go for the 'hop' idea of LN... the costs are even bigger and penalty risk is higher

eg
A<->B
B<->C
C<->D
D<->E
imagine A wanted to pay E using the 'hop' concept.
first A move funds to B..
B wont change his funds with C for free so A has to pay a fee to B to thank him for his involvement
next B move funds to C..
C wont change his funds with D for free so A has to pay a fee to C to thank him for his involvement
next C move funds to D..
D wont change his funds with E for free so A has to pay a fee to D to thank him for his involvement

so to pay E is 4x the fee compared to just trading with B

this is what blockstream are hoping for. so this is where they become X (a hub)

A - X - E
   / | \
 B  C  D

now everyone only has to pay 2x hop fee (A pay A->X, A pay X->E).  but everyone can trade with each other.(via X)
downside.
now X has 50% authorisation permission status with everyone.
now X has can be the deciding factor of how long they want to make customers funds mature for after settlements confirm (CLTV)
now X has can be the deciding factor of chargbacking their customers funds after settlements confirm (CSV revokes)

yea they may get some competition where starbucks or walmart become a hub. and offer a cheaper fee. but thinking that the 'hop' concept will be used dominantly is not a rational end result.

How are you going to make them to do what you want? If they don't want it and consider it unnecessary?

So you think Andreas Antonopulos is wrong? (someone who is always neutral and is learning about bitcoin stuff 24/7)

Get real, the only thing not tested here and proven to fail is BU. If BU gets anywhere notably we are fucked. Segwit is safe compared to BU. BU depends on Core's hard work, if Core stopped updating their software, BU wouldn't have anywhere to rip off and copy and paste code from, it would be the end.

Here is Andreas explaining why segwit is the way to go:


https://medium.com/segwit-co/segregated-witness-and-aligning-economic-incentives-with-resource-costs-7d987b135c00#.yrq6jipqg

um hello, wakey wakey

core need to release it
other implementations need to release it.

but that involves core dropping their crown and being part of concensus, on an equal playing field with the other implementations

Those who want BU fork unconditionally and create a BU Coin. The rest continues with Bitcoin.

BU is very unreliable, to implement BU needs a hardfork, hardfork will be extremely negative, after hardfork, bitcoin is not decentralized any more, not reliable or immutable blockchain either. You can see ETHER's price, you will know how much hazard of hardfork will bring to bitcoin.