Topic: Soaring fertilizer prices could see millions more undernourished (Read 338 times)

Fertilizer is very important for plant growth, therefore plants will grow healthy and produce quality results.
I think to collect bird dirt for too long because it may be calculated with how many birds that have a bird that is birds in the tower, if you have a lot of pigeons, it will quickly also get the dirt, but what if the opposite, why not use other animal dung such as cow dung , horses, goats, chicken and pigs, maybe others can also be added as an alternative to get organic fertilizer and to help farmers who lack fertilizer due to the high price of fertilizer.

The global food situation worsened after the Russians deliberately blew up the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Station from the inside on June 6, flooding about 80 settlements in southern Ukraine and disrupting the irrigation system that supplied water to millions of agricultural enterprises. Productivity in Ukraine due to this largest terrorist attack by Russians will drop sharply, and therefore the amount of exports of agricultural products from Ukraine will also decrease.

In addition, Russia continues to block the export of grain and other agricultural products from the Black Sea ports of Ukraine. Therefore, the countries of Africa should say their "thank you" to the Russian Putin regime, which arranges an artificial famine in the world.

Apparently, it is not necessary to approach the issue of the use of fertilizers in agriculture in a uniform way for different categories of those involved in the cultivation of products. For home gardens, small and even medium-sized farmers, organic farming is quite suitable. Organics is able to give plants all the useful substances for growth and getting a good harvest, because this is how nature itself laid it down. Such products are absolutely complete and have good taste.

Large enterprises that cultivate large areas of agricultural land may well use synthetic fertilizers, and here it is only important to observe the measure. But even in this case, it is desirable to combine these types of fertilizers and try to introduce organic matter as much as possible. Otherwise, the fertile resource of the Earth will be depleted.

Fertilizer prices are indeed very high, making farmers in my country desperate, even organic fertilizers cannot meet their needs during the planting season, not to mention the actions of naughty distributors who deliberately raise prices 2-3 times the price from producers, making the world of agriculture even more chaotic.
actually the increase in fertilizer prices is not due to inflation, the high cost of raw materials for making fertilizer and production costs that require producers to raise prices,

Well, currently China are the biggest importer of fertilizer ... because they need to produce more food per square meter, than any other agricultural land in other countries. The thing is, they manufacture a lot of products that are needed by other countries, so food imports will balance out the books for them, if they need to import more food than what they can produce. 

The repercussions for the US agriculture are huge, because Fertilizer prices account for nearly one-fifth of U.S. farm cash costs, with an even greater share for corn and wheat producers. Source : https://www.fas.usda.gov/data/impacts-and-repercussions-price-increases-global-fertilizer-market

The price of fertilizers is determined by the natural gas prices. The gas prices in Europe have dropped recently, because the European gas reserves are almost full. I don't know if this will change in the summer and the gas prices won't hit new highs.
We have already suffered thru the 52% inflation of basic foods. I don't think that there will be another 81% inflation wave in the agriculture sector. The inflation levels might be lower. What is concerning is the really warm winter in Europe, which is bad for the crops.

I guess that's because of the inflation. Not just fertilizers actually but the increasing rates of it affects almost any other goods.  Also, the effects aren't only limited on a certain country but this was a global phenomena. Can't understand, how are the famers happy about it? Sure, they can increase the price of their products but that is because also pay more for producing it.

An increase in the price of the goods, isn't a good thing to the consumer. It makes them buy less or won't buy it all so the profits that the sellers or the farmers are making is going to be lesser this time. Shortage in food is different. It is when the demands are high.

The cost of fertilizers is actually exorbitant if you compare and contrasts the price historically. This is not just happening in the west only, it is everywhere and farmers are happy about it because the consequences is great and can already be felt. Shortage of food is one of them. Soaring prices of fertilizer leads to increase in the cost of production and reduce the quantity.

Causing fear under the pretext of raising prices, namely the role of distributors playing with certain parties. I personally don't know how fertilizer is managed in other countries. But what I know is that in our country there are subsidized fertilizers that are sold in the market. The problem that often occurs is the scarcity of fertilizers due to games between distributors and certain parties who play a role in fertilizer problems.

And this is still being practiced at my place, we still use organic fertilizers in various agricultural lands such as vegetables and rice, the method of processing this fertilizer is also quite simple and the raw materials needed are also quite easy to obtain. By using organic fertilizers, farmers' yields are not reduced, in fact much better because they get enough elements, because they don't use chemicals in the processing of the planting process.

The cost of planting is also cheaper than using non-organic fertilizers, so that when the harvest arrives, the farmer gets a much bigger profit.

That's the role of the media in playing issues according to interests, nutrition does not only represent agriculture and I think using old patterns in growing any plant is far more nutritious and healthy, because without using chemical fertilizers plants will thrive and live naturally.

The way out, as always, is somewhere in the middle. In agriculture, it is necessary, if possible, to use organic matter as fertilizers. In this regard, it is especially important to process weeds, any green mass, which, in combination with dried plants, provides a very valuable universal fertilizer. This will reduce the need for chemical fertilizers and improve food quality. Chemical fertilizers should be applied as an addition to organic fertilizers, then it will bring maximum benefit.
The current problem with shortages in certain regions of chemical, inorganic fertilizers is caused in large part by Russia's military intervention in Ukraine and the subsequent sanctions that disrupted the traditional supply chain.

sometimes i feel these "fear" puff pieces are not where an item has/should increase in cost. but instead creates a fear that it will go up as an excuse to then artificially raise the price to set the excuse of raising the price

farmers can find ways around increased fertiliser costs. by obtaining organic slurry from a neighbouring cattle farmer. by changing their farming practice to be more efficient per plant how that plant gets its nutrients. and of course get fertiliser from elsewhere. other forms

i dont see it as a real "will kill millions via malnutrition" debate. i feel its a fake fear media puff piece

The price of things these days has been vastly affected, so much so that fertilizer prices is the least of worries for majority of the world population.
Fertilizer can be gotten from waste, left overs, trash. All dumped in a huge dug pit or empty land area and left to decompose. Farmers who rely on industrial fertilizers simply aren't thinking outside the box, both inorder to save cost and keep production and sales of farm produce constant or up to a certain minimum.
With the prices soaring, an economist would advise only spending on things that are necessary, things that have substitutes that are equally as good as our favorites, also to think of better creative ways to more than compensate for our regular dietary requirements.

solution to war

thunderdome
let the 2 presidents of waring countries PERSONALLY enter a cage
2 may enter 1 may leave

if 2 presidents want a fight.. let THEM fight not their citizens

wars happen because presidents decide they want to fight. but hide behind their silk ties and wooden desks telling others to fight for them.

if they want to propose a war.. they should 'reside' (occupy) in the war

You can't, that would be impossible because human nature leans on war whenever they find a reason for it. I know that you and I would probably never side with any war ever, but there are tons of people out there, specially the ones who are likely to get votes, like the war because there are enough people who would vote for someone who likes militarism.

I could go out and say "if you elect me as president I would disband the whole military" and I would get zero votes. This is why it's much better to focus on how we could go around wars, not stop them. It would be amazing if we could stop them, but if we can't then at least find a way to keep food prices and gas prices low if it ever happens.

processed/manufactured "urea" aka phosphates is expensive.. but natural(organic) urea aka livestock urine. is a by product livestock farms want to get rid of for free/at cost

some farmers have efficiency methods to deliver phosphates and minerals to plant roots directly and in proportion to plants needs(hydroponics), without wastefully just spraying tonnes of it on baron fields and hope enough leaches into the soil to feed the plants(eg sometimes monsoons/floods wash away the top layers thus become a wasted task that does not feed the plants the nutrients.)

its not really a "blame fertiliser" thing. its a less than modern/efficient farming that is to blame for why some crops dont yield their full potential

getting processed phosphates used to be soo cheap due to cheap imports that farmers just bought the imports and sprayed to their hearts content. without caring about asking their nearby livestock farmer for urine/manure.

now its got more expensive farmers are not realising there are other ways, the y are stuck in their old practices of importing cheap. that they are shocked when prices go up

but.. there are other ways. i dont see a long term problem i just see a temporary transition to a new way of farming

We have already been suffering from this even before the invasion in Europe happened. The war as well as the pandemic only exacerbated the situation. But even without them, fertilizer here has always been expensive.

Urea, for example, if I'm not mistaken, is at least twice more expensive than in other countries. This is one of the reasons why our vegetables here are expensive. The production cost is already high. The middlemen and the hoarders and the cartels are making everything even worse. Not to mention that there are also natural calamities and a worthless government.

You'd be surprised to know that my poor country has more expensive carrots, potatoes, cabbage, onions, and other vegetables than rich countries. We're a developing country with food prices higher than in highly developed countries.

there are now horticultural businesses that are completely skipping the "fertiliser"(animal/plant byproduct) stage

hydroponics is replacing the need of animal/plant by-product matter. and going straight to mineral feed

some are even getting the prices down of compost fertiliser. by diluting compost/manure in water to shake out the minerals from the compost into a potent mineral pool. to then need less compost/manure per plant

afterall why need to fill a field with fertiliser/compost to a 1foot(12 inches) depth layer, which includes the empty space between plants. when you can just feed the plants roots with 1inch of mineral saturated water

Actions that governments should take to pay attention to the nutrition of all their citizens. this cannot be left alone. There's a lot to think about when something like this happens. but maybe the government has or is looking for alternatives to get good fertilizer for its people.

Organic fertilizers can completely replace synthetic ones. If you use for this various weeds and other unnecessary green mass mixed with dried, there will be absolutely all the nutrients necessary for plants. But organic fertilizers, based on high physical costs, are more suitable for household and small farms. For large agricultural enterprises, synthetic fertilizers are still indispensable.

Any wars, and especially such large ones as the current Russian-Ukrainian one, disrupt the established logistical routes for world trade. Mankind needs to develop effective measures to quickly curb any military aggressor.

Prices serve a purpose to justify investment, the damage is most often in a spike of prices unforeseen but its clear we need to invest in food production long term and the global GDP and world population require greater resources and supply security.
   I'm aware of a few fertilizer projects costing billions, a massive amount of faith must be expressed in these future markets and the profitability to justify money spent now and borrowed in hope of returns a decade or more from today.   One persons view of higher prices as a negative is another's hope rock for the stability of their project vision.   If we are requiring so much more food in future I'd rather this was apparent as soon as possible so we can build for that certainty, so long as the prices are correct long term its a good thing to enable growth in supply which can take years to ensure.