Topic: Society with no law (Read 479 times)

There is no such thing. Common law, law of the creator applys to everyone by default.
Made up laws laws made by some people against other people are not laws, that's a nuisance.

How Romainians deal with nuisances
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Yeah, to a point.
If you take "social" to the point as not to be a complete loner, then yeah, Homo Sapiens is (or was) "social".
But there are different levels to "social". When Homo Sapiens was a hunter-gatherer, food was scarce, and any extra mouth to feed was objectively a threat to the survival of the group.
Once the plow was discovered, Homo Sapiens became (with time) more and more sedentary, as their food source was much more stable, and it (obviously) didn't move. Soon enough, the group started facing a different problem: they didn't have enough hands to work the land. Then is when Homo Sapiens became truly social, and started welcoming people from other tribes/clans. It took millennia.
THAT by itself prompted a huge improvement in the DNA heredity of humans (they started having kids with people from other clans/tribes, so conditions like Down's syndrome started to be more rare), and initiated all laws and regulations (and social customs) as we know them today, and ultimately was the sole initiator of crafts, industry and science, among others. All because of a little pointy piece of bone.

Homosapien are animalistic by nature, it's how evolution works. But still social primates. In fact, it took a long time for society to get rid of the animalistic tendencies in humans. Some would argue the general increase of intelligence as caused by a diet change acted as a catalyst for this process, but whatever the reason, the idea of tribalism still exists. It's innate. Rejection and aggression towards foreigners is self preservation mechanism, anything viewed as "foreign" is a threat to someone's safety or way of life.

For a society to be a society, there must be a law,rule,guildlines,principle that govern that entity,and it is these rules that makes the people stay United without crises.Any society that does not have rules and principles guilding them will suffer crises,war,system failure and lack of control by it citizens.

A lawless society is like a society exposed to danger,internally and externally.It is a society that lifes and properties will not be valued.A lawless society is a society where gangsterism will be practiced.

Actually, that's not the case, or at least not when "society" is concerned.
Man was born as a hunter-gatherer, and as that, they were nomads and very aggressive towards "foreigners". It was the development of the plow (first) and later of industry, that created society as we know it today. Of course there were "social norms" then, but most of what was considered "normal" then would be appalling today.


Well, at least not in my experience. Sure, different countries may (and probably will) vary on this.
I live in a country in which "law" has ceased to exist decades ago, and, while we've been overrun by criminals of all kinds, honest people are still a vast majority, and we're unwilling to let criminals take the whole country. Sure, it's difficult, and life is very far from what it is in any developed society, but to say it'd be "the law of the jungle" is a bit excessive.

Man is by nature a social being, so he cannot live without laws, even if there are no written laws, there are laws that exist according to social norms and customs. I think that even in primitive societies, when man began to live jointly with other groups, there were laws that were innately recognized to preserve the survival of the group, with the development of human civilization and the complexity of relations, man began to establish laws to regulate the relations between members of society, without these laws no one can A society of continuing to live together, of course there will always be murder, robbery and other crimes even in the most civilized societies, but the existence of laws protects good people from such people who steal or kill.
In short, it can be said that there is no life without law. A society in which there is no law turns into a society in which violence, murder and theft prevail, and there is the law of the jungle where the strong eat the weak.

The country exist without law, yeah I'm tired such country is Nigeria my country home where the richare getting richer and the poor getting poorer where killings are taking place corruptions insecurity and Bandit and could you believe that our leaders are there sitting laughing and they don't do anything about it in my country Nigeria. So now I want to tell you I want you to believe now that there is a country without law exist. In fact there are so many people in my country Nigeria who are above the law including their families, friends, relatives,  they will go scot-free if they do anything wrong.
Reason why I told you all this is that if anything happen that that require Justice and He is one of them they will make sure the case does not end they will keep adjourned the case until the entire country self will be tired of sitting and waiting for the Justice rather they will forget about it and continue with their normal activities.

I believe there was a time were there were no laws in existence, where everyone was free to do whatever they wanted to do and what they felt right for them. Because people do not think alike, and people see different things as what is right, no one was wrong...I can only imagine how it was like living in such a time, but i bet it must have been really wild, no order and life was not assured. Laws were introduced to bring order to the society, and even if they are not completely obeyed by all, it is a standard of what is right in society, and what is wrong.

And there are laws, rules, regulations, ethics and norms,but then people then to do what's not good in their neighborhood.
The rich takes what's for the poor with looking back, nor having a double thoughts over he's/her actions.
For me there's no law, every man should be for himself/herself.

There's always hope. Sometimes it's harder to find.

To be able to connect, almost every day I have to walk about 9 blocks to the nearest Starbucks store, because there's no wi-fi where I live. Yesterday, when I was going back home, I almost got robbed. Nothing happened, as I caught the guy before he could even try, and I know how to deal with them. But the fact remains that, have it been anybody else, they would've been robbed in a heartbeat, and the situation would've probably looked hopeless.
I see people walking around like zombies every day, and it pisses me off when they're robbed. But in most cases they could've avoided it just by paying attention.

There are Law on every complex society, including other primates' societies. Law is not a human creation.

Custom is the way Law is created on non-human societies. Just think about rules on hierarchy between members.

The problem is not about Law or lack of it. The problem is about the way to enforce it.

Should we relay on a central system or should sanctions against illegitimate actions be imposed by society on a unorganized way?

We know that the old way of the victim to retaliate doesn't work since it promotes private wars.

Do you think that Bitcoin will eventually be "forced" onto the masses?

"Law" (or some kind of law) is eventually enforced by the masses. At that, society can be thought of as self stabilizing.
Of course, if a given society lost, all of a sudden, any kind of control, there'd be chaos, but fortunately that doesn't happen: the descent into lawlessness takes years, sometimes decades.
Before, when I said Argentina is a lawless place, I was joking, but I wasn't. In the name of democracy and "human rights" we have evolved (or "devolved") into a society that protects the victimizer instead of the victim.
Then again, we didn't turn into a place where honest people became victims by default. On the contrary, honest people have just adapted and learned to defend ourselves, so now justice is not as "just", but it's much more swift, and some kind of law (some may say the "law of the jungle", which in any case is better than no law at all) prevails.

Some years ago, in one little town in Central America (it may have been Honduras, but I can't remember), a guy stole a chicken to eat, and the neighbors caught him. When the police from a nearby bigger town showed up, the neighbors had already killed him.
Now, you may say that's savagery, maybe it is. But that town hadn't seen a single crime in over 44 years. How many towns in the world can say the same?

Well said. Society without law will be like jungle where only fittest survives and weaker is food of stronger. Thinking of lawless society reminds  me of old movies where  absence of any government creates anarchy and people would quickly form into mutual self-protection groups based on their loyalty to a powerful leader who they believe can protect them from any kind of disaster.

Imagine what will be happening if there is no law. If with law we have this level of lawlessness and anarchy in the world, remove law and everyone will become animals in the jungle. I believe the wickedness level now is a sign of the end of the world that the Bible foretold. It says that wickedness of man shall increase in the last days.

Every society has a set rule and obligation that guilds them.It is these rules and laws that the government uses to control and govern her people.Every society that has these rules,laws,obligations can live in peace without chaos in the society.

But any society that has no law is doomed for all sought of wicked and barbaric act from the masses.
A society that has no law will suffer the following.
Criminal acts.
Unnecessary killings
Problems and conflict all over the society.etc.

Come to live in Argentina for a while, then you can see for yourself.

Initially, in a lawless society, bad people start getting ever bolder, until honest people get sick of it, and start finding their own solutions to the problem. In the middle, those that are not capable of coming up with said solutions become the big losers, and so does society as a whole. Kids, the elderly and the weak become society's victims.

Believe it or not, the rule of law does help society a lot.

I don't take bad characters or bad things that happens in the society serious. I understand that the society accommodates all forms of lifestyle bad and good. You can't just expect the society to be good through out, everyone can't be good in a society.

A lawless world would be like hell because humans would only move using their instincts without thinking about the consequences. Humans without laws and regulations are like animals who act blindly to satisfy their desires.

Remember any system can be effective but the system of cruelty cannot be effective. 
A society without law cannot be possible, because the law makes a strong bond between society and its people. just anarchists everywhere.
No law means crime would be legal, robbery would be legal, murder would be legal, no protection of rights. We would be punished or accountable against anyone. They would end up badly. Civilization would not be possible without law.