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Yeah, it's flying isn't it.  Look at all those miners!   You can lie to your cronies on your own forum as they're all as stupid as you, but it doesn't fly here mate.

So you refuse to tell us how the trust node difficulty is calculated? But I thought you understood solidcoin bro! LOL. Idiots like you, who don't know shit but just don't like me or realsolid or some other crappy teenage drama reason are the reason this forum cannot be trusted for anything. It's a blight on the entire Bitcoin community, but I'm glad people like you are here rather than at SolidCoin.

If you think miners = everything then it's another reason as to why you are also clueless. In SolidCoin people will only mine if it makes economic sense, this is designed, it's an automatic inflation/deflation aspect that other coins do not have and is one reason why SC will succeed and the others will fail. No more flooding the market with coins if there is only a few people mining, this is fair to people who buy and mine coins, their value won't drastically change. It's stability. Welcome to the better alternative, bro.
legendary
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You have a case of narrow blinkers. This forum isn't the world by the way, get out more.

Yeah, it's flying isn't it.  Look at all those miners!   You can lie to your cronies on your own forum as they're all as stupid as you, but it doesn't fly here mate.

The statistics back up your claims Rolo.As I see very few people mining SC overall. CH maybe you should reverse the cutting of block rewards to boost mining of your currency (and therefore strengthening your network in the process.Miners are incentivised to keep the network running nicely with block rewards.make that count CH for your miners)
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You have a case of narrow blinkers. This forum isn't the world by the way, get out more.

Yeah, it's flying isn't it.  Look at all those miners!   You can lie to your cronies on your own forum as they're all as stupid as you, but it doesn't fly here mate.
legendary
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Here's an account of my experiences with SC as a currency:

To sum up:
Reason to avoid solidcoin like the plague: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-many-premined-coins-would-you-like-to-see-in-sc-30-66518

You do realize that the "RealSolid" posting on this forum was a troll account by Bitcoinexpress right? RealSolid on IRC already confirmed to me it wasn't him, and you can ask him yourself in the official SolidCoin channel on #freenode. It's linked to from http://solidcointalk.org

If you only get your source of news about SolidCoin from this forum then you will have an extremely biased viewpoint of it, because there are too many trolls here who spread lies because they are afraid of it, or don't properly understand it.

The code you're looking for is in transaction.cpp by the way.

CoinHunter I do appreciate you contacting me about a possible impersonation of RS (I'm not too sure as it looks and sounds like him, but none the less you took the trouble to contact me so I'll have to look into my reporting of this issue).Since I consider myself to be a reasonable individual CH and as such, I wish to make sure that I do have my facts straight.On this occasion, it looks like I may have made a bit of an error. (forum users,If I have made an error please tell me.If I'm right then ignore CHs posting and continue as before,thanks.Just need clarification thats all) I use Xcode on my Mac to read into the code.Thanks for the very useful tip DILLIGAF for displaying code that doesn't clutter up forum threads. Smiley
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sr. member
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If you only get your source of news about SolidCoin from this forum then you will have an extremely biased viewpoint of it, because there are too many trolls here who spread lies because they are afraid of it, or don't properly understand it.


Solidcoin cops so much flak on this forum because people here understand it all too well.   It's not like it's hidden to be fair, you make it plainly clear what a mess it is by advertising it's "strong points" which are precisely what's wrong with the thing in the first place Cheesy

Sure, so care to explain how the difficulty model works for a trust node if you understand it so well?

If you had any semblance of sense at all, you'll go away for a while, shut down SC and come back with a new name for yourself and your coin.   It's completely tainted and worth shit now.    Of course that'll be pretty pointless as unless you dramatically rework how the thing works it'll be clear who you are anyway, but there you go.

You have a case of narrow blinkers. This forum isn't the world by the way, get out more.
legendary
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If you only get your source of news about SolidCoin from this forum then you will have an extremely biased viewpoint of it, because there are too many trolls here who spread lies because they are afraid of it, or don't properly understand it.


Solidcoin cops so much flak on this forum because people here understand it all too well.   It's not like it's hidden to be fair, you make it plainly clear what a mess it is by advertising it's "strong points" which are precisely what's wrong with the thing in the first place Cheesy

If you had any semblance of sense at all, you'll go away for a while, shut down SC and come back with a new name for yourself and your coin.   It's completely tainted and worth shit now.    Of course that'll be pretty pointless as unless you dramatically rework how the thing works it'll be clear who you are anyway, but there you go.
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Here's an account of my experiences with SC as a currency:

To sum up:
Reason to avoid solidcoin like the plague: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-many-premined-coins-would-you-like-to-see-in-sc-30-66518

You do realize that the "RealSolid" posting on this forum was a troll account by Bitcoinexpress right? RealSolid on IRC already confirmed to me it wasn't him, and you can ask him yourself in the official SolidCoin channel on #freenode. It's linked to from http://solidcointalk.org

If you only get your source of news about SolidCoin from this forum then you will have an extremely biased viewpoint of it, because there are too many trolls here who spread lies because they are afraid of it, or don't properly understand it.

The code you're looking for is in transaction.cpp by the way.

Code:
CSolidCoinAddress addr=txPrev.vout[prevout.n].scriptPubKey.GetSolidCoinAddress();
if(addr.IsValid())
{
for(int x=0;x        {
         if(g_TrustPubKeysHash[x] == addr)
                {
                 return error("ConnectInputs() : trying to spend trustfund account on the network : %s\n",addr.ToString().c_str());
                }
        }
}
else
{
std::string txstr = txPrev.vout[prevout.n].scriptPubKey.ToString();
        for(int x=0;x        {
         if(txstr.find(g_TrustPubKeys[x]) != std::string::npos)
                {
                 return error("ConnectInputs() : trying to spend trustfund account on the network : %s\n",txstr.c_str());
                }
        }
}
legendary
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They Coins from this "trusted node"-wallets can't be spended by actual code ( i didn't checked that exactly) but RS/CH prooved that he can stop network and force all users using SC to use new Client, other way your transactions will NOT BE ACCEPTED through his trust nodes.
So it's only question of time he makes changes he can spend this coins.

The second thing Smiley He says CPF - is Coin protection  fund is used for protect network for pay bounties and so on.
But ask CH is he mining hes solidcoins ?! NO ... why ?
Well the trust nodes spend each time they generate block some coins to CPF ... so CPF is not coin protection fund, It's Coinhunter's Personal fund Smiley))
if you look through transactions after block 179999, you'll see ... 50% of all generated coins go to CPF Smiley this means if it would be world curency, 50% of all wealth of the World owns CH Smiley
If you think it's ok and fear ... well Smiley your choice.

This is what we have been saying for months. Welcome aboard the good ship HMS Sanity.  Cheesy
legendary
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The second thing Smiley He says CPF - is Coin protection  fund is used for protect network for pay bounties and so on.
But ask CH is he mining hes solidcoins ?! NO ... why ?
Well the trust nodes spend each time they generate block some coins to CPF ... so CPF is not coin protection fund, It's Coinhunter's Personal fund Smiley))
if you look through transactions after block 179999, you'll see ... 50% of all generated coins go to CPF Smiley this means if it would be world curency, 50% of all welth of the World owns CH Smiley
If you think it's ok and fear ... well Smiley your choice.

Check the code in wallet.cpp file.There are several references to a 'trust fund'. I also found this (download the file to read more of my findings:
http://film2240.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/wallet-cpp-sc-code.pdf


I turned my findings into a PDF and hosted it on my blog as a downloadable link (above) as I feel it's important for everyone to see,as well as not cluttering up this thread.This won't show on my blog normally so you should use the link above.Tell me if my description is right or wrong about what I saw in there.

Thanks.

Update:Added all code text into a PDF file hosted on my blog so as not to clutter up this thread. Smiley
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legendary
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Well unless I'm much wrong, the 'closed source' issue relates the the fact that Soilidcoin is released with an 'all rights reserved' license, not the 'free to edit but just mention me' license. Correct me if I'm wrong here Cheesy
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thanks to most for some great replies and not bashing me for honest questions. i really am wanting to see the truth behind SolidCoin.

regarding it not being open-source, i would TOTALLY AGREE that any such system must be open source. but it seems to me that it *is* open source: i see the site has their open source posted at this page:
http://solidcoin.info/downloads.html

i downloaded the zip and it has several code files in it. i did not even try to compile it as i'm not even on a puter that has Visual Studio installed. (i'm a windows programmer [my appologies Wink ] and c# is my specialty, but i'm familiar with c++ too.) so my point is at first glance, it appears that the source code is released. for those saying it's not open source, do you have a response to that?

i agree that he has a hot-head attitude tho. that shows a lack of professionality about him tho. i give that negative aspect too.

and thanks for that post to where he asked how many coins should be pre-mined. it was quite hillarious! Smiley

but about pre-mined coins, in the explanation at the solidcoin site, it explains that premined coins cannot be spent like normal coins. i have to give him/them/SC credit, that it's a good idea. (i think brilliant to overcome the 51% 'danger' that other cryptocoins face.) but i also admit that i only half understand stated solution as to how those premined coined and 'trusted nodes' actually keep the network safe from a powerful attacker. but i'm pointing out that SC claims those coins cannot be spent as regular coins.

and yeah, when i took a second look at difficulties, i found SC difficulties to be very low with as mentioned, hardly any miners. but in response to it not being worth the electricity to mine them, neither is BitCoins worth mining.
legendary
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legendary
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Here's an account of my experiences with SC as a currency:

To sum up:
Reason to avoid solidcoin like the plague: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-many-premined-coins-would-you-like-to-see-in-sc-30-66518

I raised concern about RealSolids 'data collector' built into his SolidCoin client/network.He has refused to achknowledge why it exists and has used secretly gathered (by hiding this deep in hte fine print which caught me out) info against me by denying me what I felt was rightfully mine by being an 'early adopter' of his currency (back when it was a fresh,young currency last august).I even supported him initially before seeing his true nature as evidenced by closing his code source,releasing SC2 which created issues and has things we can't trust.After discovering that SC was not the curency I thought it was,I turned against the idea and was hoping that RS would 'reset ' the whole idea and start fresh.Clearly this didn't happen and so we saw  RS gaining more and more control over the SC network.Hey RS,isn't the whole point of a P2P currency based on the idea that a cryptographic algorithm would take care of verifying transactions and the network itself without central control. Any currency that is not open source should be avoided like the plague!

RS hides behind the excuse that,you agreed to having info collected from you when you use SC. Does the idea of having a possible keylogger or 'data collector' concern you?

RealSolid is dismissive of concerns about his 'currency' and refuses to address issues. Always make sure you know who you are dealing with on these forums OP when using alt chains and alt currencies. If you write comments that RS doesn't like (basically kiss his butt or he'll chase you up on it), he'll pursue you very heavily on here,his forums and IRC channel.When I wrote a comment before about SC,RS compained to me that my comment was 'negative' when I logged into the IRC channel which came out of the blue for me. Anyway I managed to clarify my comment. The message is clear,if you make a comment (an intelligent,valid criticism,comparison to other approaches) that RS doesn't consider 'positive' then he'll chase you up on it.

Many notable individuals have raised issues and exposed issues with SolidCoin on these forums but Realsolid/CoinHunter has dismissed and insisted that the issues raised were not a 'big deal' and look where it got him.RS was given a chance by other members of this forum to fix.

legendary
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฿itcoin: Currency of Resistance!
Easiest diversification plan in the world... mine with merged mining at BitParking http://mmpool.bitparking.com/pool btc + four alt-coins simultaneously.

Or wit P2Pool, merged mining with a lots of coins at the same time too...
legendary
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here's the bottom line: lots more people are mining SolidCoin than LiteCoin, as far as i can tell. LOTS.

Solidcoin's difficulty is only usually 3-5k right now...  It was 10 times that before the most recent block reward nerf.  Hardly anyone is actually mining SC2 because as soon as the difficulty goes up you go from losing 90% based on the amount of electricity you used to 95%, which I guess is unacceptable for pretty much everyone.
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