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Topic: SolidCoin 1.03 Released - Update immediately (Read 2768 times)

newbie
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September 04, 2011, 04:34:31 AM
#29
version 1.03 not update blocks, only update 500 block/ one starts client, close and start --> update 500 block connition
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
September 04, 2011, 02:19:50 AM
#28
How about a sane version numbering scheme? Call it 1.03.1.

Developers not using dots in their version numbers create confusion. Imagine a new user sees 2 versions for download: "1.04" and "1.031". He would logically think that "one dot oh four" was first released, followed by 26 releases, followed by "one dot oh thirty one" (and in this timeframe you switched from 2 to 3 digits after the dot). In fact, no! You had an implicit dot between "03" and "1", that has to be guessed based on how many digits your "normally" put after the first dot.

Or imagine you release many versions, reach 1.09, then 1.10, etc, 1.19, etc, 1.29, 1.30, and 1.31. At this point referring to "1.31" or "1.031" gets very confusing because some might think the leading zero is optional, or a typo, when in fact they are 2 very different releases.

/rant (in a former life, I wrote code to compare version numbers of thousands of applications)

Ok I can see your point of view. I usually do 4 numbers for my version (haven't had a product go past 9 in the major Smiley ). It's just an old habit from me.
mrb
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1028
September 04, 2011, 01:53:14 AM
#27
How about a sane version numbering scheme? Call it 1.03.1.

Developers not using dots in their version numbers create confusion. Imagine a new user sees 2 versions for download: "1.04" and "1.031". He would logically think that "one dot oh four" was first released, followed by 26 releases, followed by "one dot oh thirty one" (and in this timeframe you switched from 2 to 3 digits after the dot). In fact, no! You had an implicit dot between "03" and "1", that has to be guessed based on how many digits your "normally" put after the first dot.

Or imagine you release many versions, reach 1.09, then 1.10, etc, 1.19, etc, 1.29, 1.30, and 1.31. At this point referring to "1.31" or "1.031" gets very confusing because some might think the leading zero is optional, or a typo, when in fact they are 2 very different releases.

/rant (in a former life, I wrote code to compare version numbers of thousands of applications)
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
September 03, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
#26
1.031 is being tested and some sites have already updated to it. Fixes an issues with the new transaction limiting code and also starts a network defense mechanism against trolls. Join the irc channel to get the latest until it's released officially.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
September 03, 2011, 10:53:22 PM
#25
Hm, interesting that 'someone' apparently deleted over 30 posts from this thread since yesterday.

Come to realize that poor PR might make ya look bad?
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
September 03, 2011, 06:16:02 PM
#24
Is there a working blockexplorer so I can see if this "fix" stopped the spam? The one at http://solidcoin.whmcr.co.uk/chain/SolidCoin is stuck.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
September 03, 2011, 04:41:44 AM
#23
CoinHunter, did you really just throw a bandaid on the problem by capping all transactions at 4 KB?
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 564
September 03, 2011, 04:22:31 AM
#22
Yes, it's not really an attack just an annoyance done by those who are fearful of what SolidCoin represents.
AKA people who realised why exactly fixed fees are a bad idea and are demonstrating it? Seriously, this is exactly why Bitcoin has its current variable-fee structure. Someone carried out a transaction spamming attack against Bitcoin too back when it could be done reasonably cheaply; it's not so cheap or easy anymore.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
September 03, 2011, 04:12:44 AM
#21
Needs to be updated on the main site. Why are people attacking this coin if it's already "doomed for failure"  Roll Eyes. Shows that you are winning coinhunter!

I personally never attacked the coin.  I attacked the dipshit runnin' the show.

It's interesting.  Scientists make rockets, missiles, and mushroom clouds.....run-of-the-mouth computer nerds make 'solid'coin.   I think there are enough cases to establish a correlation, don't you?
legendary
Activity: 1896
Merit: 1353
September 03, 2011, 03:35:55 AM
#20
Solidcoin represents Freedom and Fairness, while Bitcoin means oppression and dark ages.
Solidcoin is the Truth ; Bitcoin is a bunch of lies
Solidcoin is Courage, Bitcoin is cowardise

do you want to know more? read this: http://solidcoin.info/solidcoin-ready-for-bitcoin-collapse.php

Said with all the fervor and self-belief of any one of the many, many, religious cults or political organizations on the Internet.
Anyone can put a bunch of lies on a website. No-one checks it for truth.


There is no other Coin but Solidcoin, and Coinhuster is our master.
I have found compelling Evidence.
I was touched by His noodly solid appendage on IRC.
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1002
September 03, 2011, 03:34:24 AM
#19
I second the above request Chris made.

Bitcoin is still vulnerable to the same Attack...
Lets see how long it takes until this is fixed in Bitcoin.
If the Developers really care (they dont), this would be fixed in a few Days.

How is Bitcoin vulnerable to this attack? And how is SolidCoin not?

EDIT: I see that there is a maximum transaction size now. Correct me if I'm wrong but in Bitcoin, you pay fees based on your transaction size, no? Why do you think it needs to change? What kind of attack are we talking about? And instead, you put a hard limit there as a workaround. Why? Because SolidCoin's tx fees are constant? So if all these are correct, only SolidCoin had the vulnerability in the first place. Care to comment?

EDIT: You see, you didn't say it was broken in Bitcoin, you only said "it handles better than Bitcoin NOW". Assertion without justification. Subsequently ohforf turned it to "Bitcoin is still vulnerable". What is happening here? I really don't get why people are behaving this way...
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 251
September 03, 2011, 03:32:16 AM
#18
The thing is, I can react quickly to things before they become problems, and on top of that the next SolidCoin client is many times better programmed than Bitcoin. I have basically recoded about 20% of the client now, fixing a swathe of multithreading issues and performance problems in the design which looks like it was written by an amateur.

So CoinHunter, this is another thing that's been bothering me about your claims.  All these bug fixes that you've been referring to... where are they?  Can you point out the specific commits that you're talking about?
sd
hero member
Activity: 730
Merit: 500
September 03, 2011, 03:25:54 AM
#17
Hehe. Well we will see I guess. I was aware of the "issue" of the fees allowing someone to create rather large transactions without much penalty, but I wasn't expecting someone to attack it within the current time frame. Poor judgement on my part. But it's fixed now, and handled better than Bitcoin. It's not necessarily even needed by most people (just the miners) but nevertheless it helps with network propagation.

I'm not really sure how someone malicious attempting to disrupt the network gets passed by in all this, as it's obviously a BTC supporter, perhaps someone like you who has negative and ignorant thoughts about SolidCoin. The thing is, I can react quickly to things before they become problems, and on top of that the next SolidCoin client is many times better programmed than Bitcoin. I have basically recoded about 20% of the client now, fixing a swathe of multithreading issues and performance problems in the design which looks like it was written by an amateur.

You are right that I haven't read every single line of code yet to know where every bug that lies in Bitcoin exists but I'll get there. If you think it's easy to fix design issues and bugs why haven't you been submitting them to Bitcoin? It's quite funny watching people try to lay down statements like they know the future of SolidCoin and where my talents are...... like I said, just wait and see.

Fixing a problem quickly is a failure. It's a failure to have anticipated and made allowances for the problem in the first place. You are making changes without fully understanding their implications and it's exactly that behavior that caused this update to be necessary.

Your talents at design and programming are highly unlikely to exceed those of everyone working on BitCoin. They might move slow but maybe that's because it takes time to do things right.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1015
September 03, 2011, 03:15:53 AM
#16
And this wasn't an "attack" , it was a bunch of trolls sending out tiny amounts of transactions to try to slow down the network...

There's not much point in even doing a real attack.  It's good to counter the ridiculous propaganda, and generally caution people about putting money into these alternate blockchains, but other than that SolidCoin seems to be dying on its own.
How can you kill something that can't die?

I mean that in all seriousness.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 251
September 03, 2011, 03:07:16 AM
#15
And this wasn't an "attack" , it was a bunch of trolls sending out tiny amounts of transactions to try to slow down the network...

There's not much point in even doing a real attack.  It's good to counter the ridiculous propaganda, and generally caution people about putting money into these alternate blockchains, but other than that SolidCoin seems to be dying on its own.
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
we are legion
September 03, 2011, 03:04:33 AM
#14
Bitcoin is still vulnerable to the same Attack...
Lets see how long it takes until this is fixed in Bitcoin.
If the Developers really care (they dont), this would be fixed in a few Days.
full member
Activity: 153
Merit: 100
September 03, 2011, 02:57:46 AM
#13
You "Ready For Collapse" article sucks badly.

Just reading the page set my "Scam" spidey sense ringing..  
Its Full of Fear Mongering, Half Truths, Implied Threats and Falsehoods

"Implications of FBI Involvement"  - assuming it to be true, why is Solidcoin going to be immune to the same thing ?

"Admitted he doesnt want much to change" = Stagnation ?  Yeah, give me a money network that keeps changing please !  Not.

OMG, Some Bitcoin-using websites got hacked and had coin stolen .. Bitcoins fault !!   Better get rid of your dollars too, people can and have robbed banks you know

"Big Banks might use it !"  - Gasp, how evil, we need a system that *cant* be used by people we dont like.

Three variants of Bitcoin have failed due to a flaw *we* dont have.   Not due to lack of interest in yet another copycat, which we arent.  nosiree

*IF* People leave Bitcoin, then transactions will take longer, which will make even more people run away from Bitcoin to Us.  Bank Run !!!  OMG, Bitcoin Bubble !

If you have money invested in Bitcoin, you will be Angry and Scared !

But dont worry, *we* have a plan that doesnt include "Those bad guys" (gov, banks, Wealthy elite etc).  We're going to look after *you*..  

How ?  *innovation* of course.. we're going to keep inventing NEW things, and "improving" things.  Dont worry, we'll decide if its a good idea or not.

If you like what youve read, join and tell us, First in - Best Dressed.   In the meantime, you might like to look at how to *buy some Solidcoins* - get in quick while its new.

Hopefully you'll use the massive wealth you will magically make by doing so wisely to make the world beautiful and not just become one of those evil "wealthy elite" profiting off the dumb latecomers.

Damn, you couldnt have sounded dodgier if you tried, you might as well have just posted another "SELL SELL SELL" thread.

Pass..


sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
September 03, 2011, 02:57:16 AM
#12
Why doesn't BitCoin have mandatory updates like these? Even the really old clients still work.

Oh yes, their development goes: plan -> code -> test -> release.

Yours goes: hack code you don't fully understand -> release -> find bugs you should have noticed before releasing -> force mandatory update.

It's just a matter of time until someone finds a really nasty bug in one of the hacks you have made and uses it to either crash or rob the entire SolidCoin network.


Hehe. Well we will see I guess. I was aware of the "issue" of the fees allowing someone to create rather large transactions without much penalty, but I wasn't expecting someone to attack it within the current time frame. Poor judgement on my part. But it's fixed now, and handled better than Bitcoin. It's not necessarily even needed by most people (just the miners) but nevertheless it helps with network propagation.

I'm not really sure how someone malicious attempting to disrupt the network gets passed by in all this, as it's obviously a BTC supporter, perhaps someone like you who has negative and ignorant thoughts about SolidCoin. The thing is, I can react quickly to things before they become problems, and on top of that the next SolidCoin client is many times better programmed than Bitcoin. I have basically recoded about 20% of the client now, fixing a swathe of multithreading issues and performance problems in the design which looks like it was written by an amateur.

You are right that I haven't read every single line of code yet to know where every bug that lies in Bitcoin exists but I'll get there. If you think it's easy to fix design issues and bugs why haven't you been submitting them to Bitcoin? It's quite funny watching people try to lay down statements like they know the future of SolidCoin and where my talents are...... like I said, just wait and see.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1015
September 03, 2011, 02:43:41 AM
#11
Yes, it's not really an attack just an annoyance done by those who are fearful of what SolidCoin represents. The new version (1.04) is going to blow away Bitcoin though as it has more features, will be faster and new developer stuff! Good times ahead.

Why doesn't BitCoin have mandatory updates like these? Even the really old clients still work.

Oh yes, their development goes: plan -> code -> test -> release.

Yours goes: hack code you don't fully understand -> release -> find bugs you should have noticed before releasing -> force mandatory update.


It's just a matter of time until someone finds a really nasty bug in one of the hacks you have made and uses it to either crash or rob the entire SolidCoin network.

That's because not much has changed since it's inception.

And this wasn't an "attack" , it was a bunch of trolls sending out tiny amounts of transactions to try to slow down the network...
sd
hero member
Activity: 730
Merit: 500
September 03, 2011, 02:43:26 AM
#10
Solidcoin represents Freedom and Fairness, while Bitcoin means oppression and dark ages.
Solidcoin is the Truth ; Bitcoin is a bunch of lies
Solidcoin is Courage, Bitcoin is cowardise

do you want to know more? read this: http://solidcoin.info/solidcoin-ready-for-bitcoin-collapse.php

Said with all the fervor and self-belief of any one of the many, many, religious cults or political organizations on the Internet.

Anyone can put a bunch of lies on a website. No-one checks it for truth.
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