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March 07, 2020, 10:20:24 PM
#31
I think it is good, but not good enough,

Why not require them to allocate funds that is excluded with the amount of investments they can collect. For example, they can run a bounty that they wi pay bounty hunters base on their work (pay per posts, etc.)

Most projects allocate rewards as project tokens because they don't really have enough capital to pay the bounty participants their rewards.
This is why I gave a solution to pay potential cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin and ether from the the funds they raise.
If any project is denying this, then it means they want to scam the bounty participants.
This can be one of the ways to identify scam projects because the genuine projects should not have a problem if they are raising enough funds.


You need to take into consideration that each distribution takes time, effort and gas in order to be distributed.
And it still doesn't protect you from projects that end up dead without any exchanges. You'd be getting worthless tokens which you can't sell

That's exactly rolling in my minds when i was reading OP's post. Reward just worthless if you can't use it. I got hundreds of tokens/coins which are valueless, so i worked for them and i got literally nothing. In that case if some projects offer 50% eth (or btc or that based token which it created from) and 50% project token/coin then it'll be great. It's a win win situation for both side i guess. Cause bounty hunters got paid no matter project reach their goal or not and project also spread their coin through the bounty hunters.
I did mention that the project can allocate dual payment system which will be better for both the project team and the bounty participants.
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after a week is completed the project team can distribute 5% of the funds raised in that week to the bounty participants in bitcoin or ethereum or dual (tokens+ BTC/ETH).
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March 07, 2020, 06:29:00 PM
#30
So many threads about to discuss the solution for bounty payments have already created but this will be going back again to the team's decision whether they wanna use a native coin to pay the hunters or not. This idea is too far to be a real thing as the developer is having all of the control over the funds. if that was using escrow and it's still possible to happen but when it will be paying by the team directly and just try to think about this will be useless. I really appreciate your idea but the result depends on the team. I don't even think if those guys on the team wanna use the native coin that has real value and liquidity to pay the hunters.
that will never happen. Escrow is the only solution but that has rarely used in the bounty campaign.
You're right, so far escrow is the best choice by providing a guarantee that bounty hunters will be paid according to the initial agreement, this reduces the risk of allocation cuts. But do not expect too much if there is no guarantee for listing on the exchange, so expect only as needed so as not to be too disappointed. Being wrong is indeed a bounty hunter, we must always be prepared for whatever risks that will occur, so strengthen your mentality.
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March 07, 2020, 06:21:15 PM
#29
To be honest, no project is interested in bounty at the moment, the market is too boring and their projects will never succeed at this stage. So bounty will die just like those projects, joining bounty is a waste of our time because it won't bring any profit.

Sometimes it made me realize that I will be quitting crypto, but I never gave up until the entire forum will die. Still we're here alive and kicking so there's no reason for us to leave crypto, and maybe if that certain project comes to a non sense idea due to non profitability but we need to divert on other options like trading other crypto that which you think sustainable, because relying on bounty isn't an assurance.
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March 07, 2020, 06:15:13 PM
#28

You need to take into consideration that each distribution takes time, effort and gas in order to be distributed.
And it still doesn't protect you from projects that end up dead without any exchanges. You'd be getting worthless tokens which you can't sell

That's exactly rolling in my minds when i was reading OP's post. Reward just worthless if you can't use it. I got hundreds of tokens/coins which are valueless, so i worked for them and i got literally nothing. In that case if some projects offer 50% eth (or btc or that based token which it created from) and 50% project token/coin then it'll be great. It's a win win situation for both side i guess. Cause bounty hunters got paid no matter project reach their goal or not and project also spread their coin through the bounty hunters.
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March 07, 2020, 06:09:14 PM
#27
So many threads about to discuss the solution for bounty payments have already created but this will be going back again to the team's decision whether they wanna use a native coin to pay the hunters or not. This idea is too far to be a real thing as the developer is having all of the control over the funds. if that was using escrow and it's still possible to happen but when it will be paying by the team directly and just try to think about this will be useless. I really appreciate your idea but the result depends on the team. I don't even think if those guys on the team wanna use the native coin that has real value and liquidity to pay the hunters.
that will never happen. Escrow is the only solution but that has rarely used in the bounty campaign.
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March 07, 2020, 05:25:27 PM
#26
A good solution for bounty payments would be that the team of the project should have the bounty token funds before ending it and letting the hunters with a less supply than before or even not paying them at all as I saw a lot of this situations and the train not seems to stop anytime soon.

Also lets look at the project side now when the funds are not coming into ICO's like they did 2 or 3 years ago so they are struggle to raise the necessary funds but they should not make bounties if they cannot pay the participants.
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March 07, 2020, 05:24:37 PM
#25
To be honest, no project is interested in bounty at the moment, the market is too boring and their projects will never succeed at this stage. So bounty will die just like those projects, joining bounty is a waste of our time because it won't bring any profit.
Bounty projects interested to pay their native tokens but mostly garbage because end of the day they will go deceive with bounty hunters. Your all of points are good things if it will applicable in the single campaign. Why you can't expect profit or worthy payments at this time but you won't expect payments from all of those bounties.                
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March 07, 2020, 05:22:50 PM
#24

Since the project team will be collecting BTC/ETH from the investors they shouldn't have any problem in distributing what they promised to the bounty participants and the bounty hunters will be more than happy to receive BTC/ETH as a payment and that too on a weekly basis rather than have to wait until the end of fund raising.

Let the comments drop below!

I doubt if any project will agree to this, the whole crypto market downtrend is affecting everyone not just bounty hunters but even the projects devs are complaining as it is getting more difficult by the day to raise money for startup projects. No matter what strategy got applied to bounty payment,  it wont stop scam projects from doing their usuals and sometimes,  these project developers do have intentions to pay but the general market downtrend do turn tokens to shiit worth of nothing, evens if such tokens got distributed,  it will rot in your wallet
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March 07, 2020, 04:39:23 PM
#23
The solution you provided is good, but I think it only applies to projects that raise money using the ICO method. Now the method that is often used to raise money is IEO. The money that is collected is saved in the exchange before the IEO is finished.

So in my opinion the method you suggest is difficult to use for now.

Aside from that, most of the projects are not really raising money from ICO. Very few of them will disclose the real truth of their fund raising activity so most of the time, you will see manipulated numbers. Up until now, very rare that a project will give their bounty payments outright, like 2-3 weeks after their ICO or IEO. It is usually months and months of waiting for the bounty hunters. What the OP suggesting is nice to hear, but the actual implementation is very difficult. But I remember one token before, Hubris, they paid their bounty hunters every week via their token. But the problem lies about the exchange listing. The price is way below from their ICO price upon listing. So I guess, joining bounty programs is really tough. Your choice to join or not.
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March 07, 2020, 04:30:50 PM
#22
Some suggestions could be very good. In fact, they could be the best, but the question we should ask first is how feasible it is.
Let's be sincere with ourselves, most projects in the crypto space would not want to agree to share the fundraised with anyone. Where we should have known this, is when it comes to maintaining the price of token listed on an exchange. This is usually done with the fundraised.
Meanwhile, a project that cannot do that, will naturally decline paying hunters in money raised.
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March 07, 2020, 04:22:57 PM
#21
That is indeed a fairly effective and profitable way for bounty hunters, but certainly quite troublesome for developers. I made a few notes regarding the strategy you submitted:
1. It will be effective if the reward is in BTC or ETH or another strong crypto, or coins/tokens from the project that have been listed on the exchange, this strategy is to overcome the concerns of a large dump by the bounty hunter because they can sell it separately for each week.
2. The development team and BM are ready to provide extra fees and efforts for the distribution process every week, for low budget projects that will definitely reject this.
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March 07, 2020, 04:10:22 PM
#20
To be honest, no project is interested in bounty at the moment, the market is too boring and their projects will never succeed at this stage. So bounty will die just like those projects, joining bounty is a waste of our time because it won't bring any profit.
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March 07, 2020, 04:05:45 PM
#19
Most of the bounties started months before their ICO period starts to get exposure for their project so the best solution will be pay from their pocket.Why they have to hesitate if the project is worth to get invested and if it is not then no bounty hunter should join and waste their time by doing shit tasks.
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March 07, 2020, 03:52:47 PM
#18
teams will not do this, because all projects want to delay payment for bounty hunters as far as possible. they use every opportunity to pay less money or not pay it at all. They delay the payment of bounty rewards for half a year and then make a Google form that needs to be completed in 2-3 days(or KYC) to receive the reward. if you do not have time then they said "sorry we warned in the chat". "you do not follow the updates of the project." you need to participate only where projects already have a reputation or they paid with bitcoin or ethereum
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March 07, 2020, 02:31:05 PM
#17
This is good because those project will be gain trust but I think this is very hard to happen since the project don't have enough fund to run that campaign. That's why they will still use thier shitcoins to pay us, because they don't need to pay bounty hunters in weekly basis.  And they don't need to allocate huge fund in Bounty which is not good for us because when we recieve the bounty this will be shitocoins or become a good coins.
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March 07, 2020, 02:20:16 PM
#16
Your suggestion is too good to be true, i know it is favorable for bounty hunters and also a good solution to current problems but i do not think any project will follow it, i think even if full campaign payment is made in btc/eth or usdt even after the end of campaign it will still be great because weekly payment can put severe workload on team and bounty manager which will make it difficult for them to handle again and again.
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March 07, 2020, 09:48:13 AM
#15
You will have to become a bounty manager with this rules to work, or either create a bounty platform separately but I doubt if many new projects would love to follow this rules of yours, the best solution to this will remain escrow
they will prefer to still use the tokens as payments this habbit will only change if bounty hunters stop promoting any project and decided to accept only payment in btc.
Then they will learn to addopt that things and no other choice than to accept that they need to pay in btc or eth instead.

As long as there are many people continue to accept token as payment it will continue.
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March 07, 2020, 08:39:10 AM
#14
You will have to become a bounty manager with this rules to work, or either create a bounty platform separately but I doubt if many new projects would love to follow this rules of yours, the best solution to this will remain escrow
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March 07, 2020, 08:27:33 AM
#13
It is impossible to happen.
I don't think that bounty projects will distribute their payment every week. Aside from that, you also said that they will get 5% of allocated funds for bounty campaign from the money they collected. What if they don't have enough money collected, how are they suppose to divide 5% to a different bounty psrticipants. It will just give a commotion in the end.
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March 07, 2020, 08:20:26 AM
#12
Bounty hunters have been facing bounty related payment issues since day 1. Bounty hunters have been scammed so many times that this board have been filled with threads asking for a solution to this problem. I was just thinking about what could be the solution for the payments of bounty hunters that would be feasible for both the project team as well as the bounty hunters and an idea struck my mind. It goes like

We all know that every project has a % of amount that is allocated to bounty programs and campaigns.
What most projects do is raise the funds and then distribute the tokens at the end and this is where the scammers take advantage of this method.
A possible solution could be that the project team raise funds and distribute the % of money raised on weekly basis for that particular week and that too in BTC/ETH/ProjectTokens.

For example:
My project has 5% of money raised allocated towards bounties and campaigns. Assuming the bounties and fund raising starts on the same date,
after a week is completed the project team can distribute 5% of the funds raised in that week to the bounty participants in bitcoin or ethereum or dual (tokens+ BTC/ETH).
Similarly they can proceed with the same process the consecutive weeks until the fund raising is complete. Hence only 5% will be distributed every week for that week alone.

This way the project will still be distributing only 5% of the total fund raised but would have distributed it on weekly basis.
Since the project team will be collecting BTC/ETH from the investors they shouldn't have any problem in distributing what they promised to the bounty participants and the bounty hunters will be more than happy to receive BTC/ETH as a payment and that too on a weekly basis rather than have to wait until the end of fund raising.

Let the comments drop below!
Doubt they would do that. People would be really disappointed with the payment they will be receiving weekly. What if the project raised  only few dollars at the first week. That 5% of the few dollars would be split among hundreds of bounty hunter as a payment. That is, everyone will receive just dust payments that won't even cover any transaction fee and we will be seeing more people crying more in this forum. Again, I doubt the developer team would like to make payments using BTC/ETH. They will want to be using their own tokens.
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