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suchmoon

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on July 04, 2020, 12:19:14 PM

I think there's little to no chance that you'll convince people to stop using Telegram.

Not trying to. But it's pointless to have telegram scam complaints here. The real perps are impossible to identify and we just end up with bogus scam accusations against reputable members due to impersonation or outright fabrication. Scammers lure users to telegram for a reason.

Quote from: ryzaadit on July 04, 2020, 01:24:47 PM

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That's some good info there but I'm quite sure it's beyond the abilities of 90%+ telegram scam victims. Telegram should just have proper immutable IDs visible without using bots, which sounds like yet another potential impersonation vector.

NotATether

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 04, 2020, 01:53:26 PM

We don't need to blame telegram for this scam controversy because the bottom line here was we have the responsibility to be vigilant in our own transaction whether the user is a newbie or not because we are all grown up. A legit transaction will always be flawless regardless on where will the deal took place.

The problem is that every single newbie that trades on telegram and gets scammed on it, comes here because this is BITCOINtalk.org so they all think this is where to file all of their bitcoin related scam accusations. Why can't they just send their report to telegram's @notoscam so they can read it and put a nice fat SCAM label to their username if it's credible?

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Quote from: Hhampuz on July 04, 2020, 12:58:22 PM

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on July 04, 2020, 12:19:14 PM

However, I have never, and never will complete a transaction solely on Telegram. When I was offering escrow services, all official addresses I provided were posted here, on the forum, either in public or through PM, and always included a signed message. If all of us bitcointalk.org members would insist on transacting this way and this way only, the Telegram scams would be a thing of the past. There would be no way for an impostor to fool anyone.

That is my philosophy as well. Unfortunately most people who want to use escrow are newbies and limited in the PM's they can send but I always tell them straight up that I will only leave payment details and the basic information about the deal in bitcointalk PM's. They can respond to it in telegram but I've never posted a btc addy on there for a deal.

At the end of the day, it's quite easy to verify on telegram too... You just have to check that the user is the correct one. This reminds me of when people were getting scammed on steam all the time because someone took the name and avatar of their "friend". A silly scam but way too many people fall for it.

Agreed.

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We don't need to blame telegram for this scam controversy because the bottom line here was we have the responsibility to be vigilant in our own transaction whether the user is a newbie or not because we are all grown up. A legit transaction will always be flawless regardless on where will the deal took place.

I like the idea of @suchmoon that if the scam accusation involves telegram then we should ignore it since its outside the forum so that members here will be responsible on the action they will do.

ryzaadit

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I think the other way to know the real "TELEGRAM" account for every trusted member who also using TELEGRAM better to give their ID Telegram Account and not only the username. This could be a good way for every trusted member who gives an option communication outside bitcointalk one of them is Telegram.

Here a few steps to know and checked ID Telegram Account

1. Trusted member need to know his ID Telegram Account.
2. To know your ID just us a bot who provide to reveal information of ID Telegram Account, I recommended everyone can use @userinfobot
3. Just type /start then your account information will be revealed.

4. Trusted member, give his ID Telegram Account on their thread service or other things.
5. The client or other people verified the ID Telegram Account by using @username_to_id_bot just send to the bot a username telegram, so he can make sure communicate with the real person.
6. Then the bot will reveal information other people ID Telegram Account.

Just match it with the ID Telegram Account from the trusted member, every account telegram has their own unique ID Telegram Account.

mindrust

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telegram is such cancer, scammers paradise

Josefjix

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Quote from: Razvan_BTC on July 04, 2020, 10:25:45 AM

Close this thread. It was my mistake.

Why were you quick to call him out without any viable evidence? It is either you're the 3 persons involved in this transaction or it is a planned work by you and a paid person to ruin the reputation built but the accused for years on the forum. Next time be more mature and disciplined.

Hhampuz

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Meh.

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on July 04, 2020, 12:19:14 PM

However, I have never, and never will complete a transaction solely on Telegram. When I was offering escrow services, all official addresses I provided were posted here, on the forum, either in public or through PM, and always included a signed message. If all of us bitcointalk.org members would insist on transacting this way and this way only, the Telegram scams would be a thing of the past. There would be no way for an impostor to fool anyone.

That is my philosophy as well. Unfortunately most people who want to use escrow are newbies and limited in the PM's they can send but I always tell them straight up that I will only leave payment details and the basic information about the deal in bitcointalk PM's. They can respond to it in telegram but I've never posted a btc addy on there for a deal.

At the end of the day, it's quite easy to verify on telegram too... You just have to check that the user is the correct one. This reminds me of when people were getting scammed on steam all the time because someone took the name and avatar of their "friend". A silly scam but way too many people fall for it.

TheUltraElite

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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

As soon as I saw the topic title, I was sure that OP is bullshitting.
Turned out that I was right as always. Roll Eyes

Hhampuz is a man of of his word. Most of such threads end up being clickbait anyway. Sadly this a forum so no way to control such topics from being made.

Dont trust but verify.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 04, 2020, 11:53:34 AM

I think we need a new rule in Scam Accusations: NO TELEGRAM BULLSHIT. If someone scammed you on telegram complain to telegram. It's a waste of time trying to decipher who made up what and there is zero chance to verify shit.

I think there's little to no chance that you'll convince people to stop using Telegram. I must admit I find it convenient, quick, and effective to communicate with users I meet here, especially if they're new and have PM restrictions. Without getting into the whole "end to end" encryption debate, or their willingness to allow scammers to abuse their platform, I just think it's a tool. A useful one that needs skill and understanding to use correctly.

However, I have never, and never will complete a transaction solely on Telegram. When I was offering escrow services, all official addresses I provided were posted here, on the forum, either in public or through PM, and always included a signed message. If all of us bitcointalk.org members would insist on transacting this way and this way only, the Telegram scams would be a thing of the past. There would be no way for an impostor to fool anyone.

Insist on a signed message,
posted here on the forum!

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Close this thread. It was my mistake.

suchmoon

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I think we need a new rule in Scam Accusations: NO TELEGRAM BULLSHIT. If someone scammed you on telegram complain to telegram. It's a waste of time trying to decipher who made up what and there is zero chance to verify shit.

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Quote from: Razvan_BTC on July 04, 2020, 10:25:45 AM

Close this thread. It was my mistake.

Besides closing this thread you should change the title of your posts you have a very weak proof and you are in a hurry to post, I don't see any logic here $68 for a reputation you have build for so many years, and you cannot even prove a PM in forum.
I think you are just trying to ruin the reputation of Hhampuz

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Quote from: Hhampuz on July 04, 2020, 10:13:58 AM

If you have ever used me as an escrow, which other parties can confirm, you would know that I always insist on using forum pm's for anything payment related and Telegram for anything chat related - when it comes to escrowing.

You were very fast to make this topic, almost as if you had it all written out already. I would just assume that your "friend" (The other party of this transaction) deleted the conversation where he asked me to message you because you are trying to pull some bullshit up in here.

Next time, go for more than $68. Such a petty number.

https://i.imgur.com/5ZVDFmK.png https://i.imgur.com/nZpW50e.png

EDIT; And who the fuck uses legacy addresses anymore anyways?

Can you show me "my" telegram username ?

Krislaw

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Quote from: Razvan_BTC on July 04, 2020, 10:25:45 AM

Close this thread. It was my mistake.

Wow. And you sounded so sure.
Can't believe you're about to rub mud on an innocent user.
I was even thinking you and the other user were up to something.
Please lock thread

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Quote from: Razvan_BTC on July 04, 2020, 10:25:45 AM

Close this thread. It was my mistake.

Lock button is in the bottom-left, you can close the thread yourself.

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Quote from: Razvan_BTC on July 04, 2020, 10:17:42 AM

Can you show me "my" telegram username ?

So, finally what happens? Either you are have been scamed by the person who pretended Hhampuz or you and your friend made the drama. Also both account might be of you, sorry 3 accounts as one has pretended of Hhampuz.

Hhampuz

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Meh.

Quote from: Razvan_BTC on July 04, 2020, 10:17:42 AM

Can you show me "my" telegram username ?

I won't put any more effort in this thread, just looking at your replies you want to summon me so that I can "prove you wrong" rather than you actually trying to get retribution if you were scammed.

I don't trust you, so that's that.

Hhampuz

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Meh.

If you have ever used me as an escrow, which other parties can confirm, you would know that I always insist on using forum pm's for anything payment related and Telegram for anything chat related - when it comes to escrowing.

You were very fast to make this topic, almost as if you had it all written out already. I would just assume that your "friend" (The other party of this transaction) deleted the conversation where he asked me to message you because you are trying to pull some bullshit up in here.

Next time, go for more than $68. Such a petty number.

EDIT; And who the fuck uses legacy addresses anymore anyways?

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Op, don't panic so much, please. I just want to say that if anything wrong happens (Hhampuz is busy, or something wrong happens with him ) will be solved soon when Hhampuz will see this thread and say something about this deal. I have already asked to check this thread. Hope he will come soon when he will see the message. So don't be panic and have patience.

wow! Hhampuz already comes here even before my post. LOL

Hhampuz

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Meh.

Lol.

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