(Solved and Repaid) Marcotheminer didnt repay me yet - page 2.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on March 18, 2019, 06:29:38 AM

Everyone please stop pretending you care about the borrower. You care about getting your little dopamine hit after leaving a red rating. There is no reason it can't be done later. It is always the same scorched Earth policy around here with very little thought given to the results or effects on the lender.

When "later"? How about the effects on the next lender marco fucks over? This is a classic case of your "standards" being applied - bunch of neutrals as warnings first, then reds upon a clear violation of a contract - and you're still bitching...

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Everyone please stop pretending you care about the borrower. You care about getting your little dopamine hit after leaving a red rating. There is no reason it can't be done later. It is always the same scorched Earth policy around here with very little thought given to the results or effects on the lender.

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Quote from: Thule on March 18, 2019, 05:25:08 AM

You could give a bit more time.The borrower wouldn't participate in that thread if he wouldn't care about his account

Maybe. Or maybe he's planning a bigger exit scam:

Quote from: marcotheminer on March 14, 2019, 03:53:34 AM

~I'm building that up over time and soon will only ask for serious 0.1+BTC loans (IF I need), with collateral or without).

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You could give a bit more time.The borrower wouldn't participate in that thread if he wouldn't care about his account

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Quote from: TECSHARE on March 18, 2019, 03:19:48 AM

It shouldn't, but is is worth noting the negative impact on the actual victim here just to fulfill the compulsive need to leave a little red mark by his name. IMO restorative justice > punitive justice

By giving negative trust to the borrower, cant help anything to the lender and can't make any loss to the borrower. But it can help the future lender or future trader who could be a loser in the near future. So giving negative trust to loan defaulter is a must.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on March 18, 2019, 03:19:48 AM

Quote from: nutildah on March 18, 2019, 03:17:16 AM

Getting a negative trust shouldn't dissuade somebody from acting like a decent person, or doing the right thing.

It shouldn't, but is is worth noting the negative impact on the actual victim here just to fulfill the compulsive need to leave a little red mark by his name.

Defaulting on a loan is a pretty standard reason to receive a negative trust. It may be argued that it is one of the most objective of standards.

"Negative impact on the actual victim" = "little red mark by his name", does it not?

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on March 17, 2019, 06:00:15 AM

Well, it's way past any deadline that was made public here--did he pay anything back yet? I left him negative trust, and even if he pays back this loan, I'm thinking it's probably a good idea that marcotheminer has a warning to others on his trust page. I get the feeling that no matter how many loans he takes and repays, eventually he'll scam on the last one, and that's based on how glib he is with his replies. That tells me he doesn't give a shit about the lender's time, anxiety, or money.

TECSHARE believes his memory is infallible, but most people need help remembering that a certain account did a certain thing in the past.

You keep leaving the warnings, for you are the future, and techy is the past.

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Quote from: nutildah on March 18, 2019, 03:17:16 AM

Quote from: Thule on March 17, 2019, 09:28:06 AM

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I left him negative trust, and even if he pays back this loan, I'm thinking it's probably a good idea that marcotheminer has a warning to others on his trust page.

You just took the only incentive away which OP had.

Good job

Getting a negative trust shouldn't dissuade somebody from acting like a decent person, or doing the right thing.

It shouldn't, but is is worth noting the negative impact on the actual victim here just to fulfill the compulsive need to leave a little red mark by his name. IMO restorative justice > punitive justice

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Quote from: Thule on March 17, 2019, 09:28:06 AM

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I left him negative trust, and even if he pays back this loan, I'm thinking it's probably a good idea that marcotheminer has a warning to others on his trust page.

You just took the only incentive away which OP had.

Good job

Getting a negative trust shouldn't dissuade somebody from acting like a decent person, or doing the right thing.

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I left him negative trust, and even if he pays back this loan, I'm thinking it's probably a good idea that marcotheminer has a warning to others on his trust page.

You just took the only incentive away which OP had.

Good job

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on March 17, 2019, 06:00:15 AM

Well, it's way past any deadline that was made public here--did he pay anything back yet? I left him negative trust, and even if he pays back this loan, I'm thinking it's probably a good idea that marcotheminer has a warning to others on his trust page. I get the feeling that no matter how many loans he takes and repays, eventually he'll scam on the last one, and that's based on how glib he is with his replies. That tells me he doesn't give a shit about the lender's time, anxiety, or money.

He has not repaid AFAIK. If he could repay then s/he could update also OP could update. Marco posted on the 7th march that s/he might be able to repay on next day (archived) but still not. Actually, that was his/her highest scam attempt.

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Well, it's way past any deadline that was made public here--did he pay anything back yet? I left him negative trust, and even if he pays back this loan, I'm thinking it's probably a good idea that marcotheminer has a warning to others on his trust page. I get the feeling that no matter how many loans he takes and repays, eventually he'll scam on the last one, and that's based on how glib he is with his replies. That tells me he doesn't give a shit about the lender's time, anxiety, or money.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on March 17, 2019, 04:18:57 AM

@marcotheminer

This is just a tip if only you're still on bringing yourself up from the dumps, never abuse anybody who has given you help fron the time of your needing, don't make a loan that you can't even pay on time. Rascals are fond of doing scams, they don't think that the money they've stole is a money that the lender has worked on.

I once needed a help too, and thank goodness someone helped me even though it doesn't have any collateral. Already repaid it for the reason I might get another help from him again when emergency comes. I think you should think like that too. Abusing other people won't make you rich or something.

I don't consider marco as a borrower. I consider him/her as a scammer when I saw his lending and borrowing thread opened at the same time. And also I noticed s/he is trying to take multi-loan at the same time then I created a post against him/her on reputation board. And finally, s/he proved that s/he is a scammer.

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This is just a tip if only you're still on bringing yourself up from the dumps, never abuse anybody who has given you help fron the time of your needing, don't make a loan that you can't even pay on time. Rascals are fond of doing scams, they don't think that the money they've stole is a money that the lender has worked on.

I once needed a help too, and thank goodness someone helped me even though it doesn't have any collateral. Already repaid it for the reason I might get another help from him again when emergency comes. I think you should think like that too. Abusing other people won't make you rich or something.

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I posted https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/risky-loan-borrower-marcotheminer-5118210 before this scam. And many people went against me. But finally, I am right. Though the community becomes save for that post. No one gave any loan to marco. If I didn't make that post then marco could be able to scam more money. I knew according to his behavior (increase loan amount), he must scam today or tomorrow.

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Quote from: marcotheminer on March 16, 2019, 05:18:28 AM

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Thx community, he insist will pay
Ill update everybody if this man its scammer or just have problems (sometimes i know happen).

Thank you. It's a pain for everyone involved (except the trust placers Wink

they love their power)..

This is the purpose of the trust system, to put a red flag where is necessary.

You were expected to payback on one date and you kept to postpone it, day after day how do you think DT can trust this behavior?

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Quote from: LoyceV on March 16, 2019, 04:50:43 AM

Mind if I give you some unsolicited advice? Stop borrowing money! If you usually can pay back a week later, wait a week with whatever you need the loan for. You'll save a large percentage on interest, you don't damage your reputation, you don't make people worry about their money, and you can still do the same things - just a week later.

This looks like the best advice in the thread.

Bitcointalk has a weard rule, here negative tag is weighted more than a positive tag, so just avoid getting in such situations.

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Quote from: LoyceV on March 16, 2019, 04:50:43 AM

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Quote from: marcotheminer on March 13, 2019, 04:33:41 AM

Good idea to alert people - as long as there is not major jump from "he's late a couple days with response" to "he's a scammer, get him".

It happened.

You can't expect the alledged scammer to have a say in this.

Mind if I give you some unsolicited advice? Stop borrowing money! If you usually can pay back a week later, wait a week with whatever you need the loan for. You'll save a large percentage on interest, you don't damage your reputation, you don't make people worry about their money, and you can still do the same things - just a week later.

That's the risk I take for taking a loan that *could* net me money 1 week in advance. It's business and real life expenses, not some fairytale.

Honestly thanks for the advice, but I do it for a reason not just for the sake of taking a loan.

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Quote from: marcotheminer on March 15, 2019, 07:36:38 PM

Quote from: marcotheminer on March 13, 2019, 04:33:41 AM

Good idea to alert people - as long as there is not major jump from "he's late a couple days with response" to "he's a scammer, get him".

It happened.

You can't expect the alledged scammer to have a say in this.

Mind if I give you some unsolicited advice? Stop borrowing money! If you usually can pay back a week later, wait a week with whatever you need the loan for. You'll save a large percentage on interest, you don't damage your reputation, you don't make people worry about their money, and you can still do the same things - just a week later.

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After Shasan opened a discussion for exposing his doubt about this user, i posted my opinion too: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50070020

How is gone is under our eyes Lips sealed

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