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qwk
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Activity: 3542
Merit: 3411
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Well, see the insane merrits he has received on December 17, 2020 by qwk for more or less generic posts
qwk is a merit source in the German local board. He runs a thread in which members of the German local can submit the posts they feel deserve merits. The link to that thread is this one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbountyairdrop-merit-5044331

The rules are very simple:
Each member of the local board (except legendary members) can submit merit-worthy posts once per month. They post the links and the number of merits they feel their posts deserve. qwk then checks the submitted posts, and rewards merits according to his subjective opinion. That can be more, but it can also be less than what the individual members think. 

He doesn't send those merits every day, and usually does it a few times per month. That's why you see a long list of merits awarded to bullrun2020bro on December 17. But not only to him, but several other users such as SiNeReiNZzz, Koal-84, seek3r, Soonandwaite, etc.

You can check qwk's merit history here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=24140. Check and you will see that each given merit points to a post that was posted by that user in qwk' merit thread.       


I can in good conscience stand behind every single merit I awarded to bullrun2020bro.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Nevertheless, you should not resent me that I was simply not aware...

I do not.  Once you became aware, you acted appropriately.  I did not expect this, and you have surprised me (which is rare in this forum).

I apologize for assuming you were just another person who profited/profits from OgScum and turned a blind eye to the morality.  You seem to be the real deal.

I would probably have to dedicate 1-2 days exclusively to this topic to be somewhat familiar with it.

I'm sure it took you a lot less once you were faced with his post offering 8% monthly returns, or 10% if you gave him 2,000+   Wink
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1043
αLPʜα αɴd ΩMeGa
SiNeReiNZzz - I'm sorry I made you uncomfortable.  I'll just note you as part of the group that thinks ponzis are OK if they are not personally affected.  Take care.  

This is simply not correct. But if you think that way about me, I can't change it.... Undecided

SiNeReiNZzz Trusts these users' judgement:
OgNasty (Trust: +71 / =4 / -5) (DT1 (-4) 1147 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

LYING about it makes you look worse than claiming ignorance.  OG ran a ponzi.  You were unaffected.  You trust OGNasty.  

(You could have changed it by not lying.. but whatever)

Well, I think it's a bit of a shame how you feel about me.



Just as you call me a liar. Although I do not know how and when I should have lied.
I always try to behave correctly here...

And only because other users in the past probably weren't, who are purely by chance in my trust list.
That does not mean that he or she is in my list for some scam.
I will have had a comprehensible reason in the past. But unfortunately I don't know it anymore.

What you have shown me there, I can only deeply abhor.
Stealing or wasting other people's hard-earned money is simply the very worst. But it is now also many many years ago. And now and then people learn from their mistakes.
However, I cannot form an opinion about it, because I know far too little about this fraud and the member.
I would probably have to dedicate 1-2 days exclusively to this topic to be somewhat familiar with it.

Nevertheless, you should not resent me that I was simply not aware...
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
SiNeReiNZzz - I'm sorry I made you uncomfortable.  I'll just note you as part of the group that thinks ponzis are OK if they are not personally affected.  Take care.  

This is simply not correct. But if you think that way about me, I can't change it.... Undecided

SiNeReiNZzz Trusts these users' judgement:
OgNasty (Trust: +71 / =4 / -5) (DT1 (-4) 1147 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

LYING about it makes you look worse than claiming ignorance.  OG ran a ponzi.  You were unaffected.  You trust OGNasty.  

(You could have changed it by not lying.. but whatever)

legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1043
αLPʜα αɴd ΩMeGa
Please what, I really don't want to offend you.
But this is absolute bullshit!

The embezzlement of thousands of coins is bullshit?   OG wrote himself he lost everything.

SiNeReiNZzz - I'm sorry I made you uncomfortable.  I'll just note you as part of the group that thinks ponzis are OK if they are not personally affected.  Take care. 

This is simply not correct. But if you think that way about me, I can't change it.... Undecided
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Please what, I really don't want to offend you.
But this is absolute bullshit!

The embezzlement of thousands of coins is bullshit?   OG wrote himself he lost everything.

SiNeReiNZzz - I'm sorry I made you uncomfortable.  I'll just note you as part of the group that thinks ponzis are OK if they are not personally affected.  Take care. 
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
I want to leave some of the german scammers negative trust rating and flag them what is the best way to achieve it? create new account, make some transactions with trusted users, get feedback for the transactions, then leave the trust rating and flag the user?

Yes, abusing the trust system is the way to go if you want to be one of many shitnoob trolls complaining about everything and ignored by everyone.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Please what, I really don't want to offend you.
But this is absolute bullshit!

The embezzlement of thousands of coins is bullshit?   OG wrote himself he lost everything.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
I want to leave some of the german scammers negative trust rating and flag them what is the best way to achieve it? create new account, make some transactions with trusted users, get feedback for the transactions, then leave the trust rating and flag the user?
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1043
αLPʜα αɴd ΩMeGa
My trust list should be cleaned out anyway. Nevertheless, I stand behind my list on the whole...

So you support ponzis or believe 10% a month is sustainable?   That's all I need to know - you'll be with good forum company.

Please what, I really don't want to offend you.
But this is absolute bullshit!

I am an absolute opponent of such systems!
And if you follow my history, you will also see that I am fighting against any kind of scam.



What you are citing is from 2012.
I am a member only since 2014.
Whereby I was not really active in the forum for almost 3 years, since my account was stolen in 2016/2017!
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
My trust list should be cleaned out anyway. Nevertheless, I stand behind my list on the whole...

So you support ponzis or believe 10% a month is sustainable?   That's all I need to know - you'll be with good forum company.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1043
αLPʜα αɴd ΩMeGa
Accusations without evidence are like a bicycle tire without air...

Do you mean from newbies only, or for everyone?  I see you trust people who have made many accusations without evidence...

When I trust someone, it is for a reason.
Most of the time, I have read some post or the user has done some other good thing for the community.

It is not possible to know EVERYTHING about everyone. And probably you know more than I do...
Maybe one or the other would no longer be in my list... If I really would be something like a forum god and would know about everything...

My trust list should be cleaned out anyway. Nevertheless, I stand behind my list on the whole...
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Accusations without evidence are like a bicycle tire without air...

Do you mean from newbies only, or for everyone?  I see you trust people who have made many accusations without evidence...
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1043
αLPʜα αɴd ΩMeGa
There is nothing wrong with a merit source posting a thread asking users to share their contributions. So that he had the possibility to look at the contributions bundled, alone for time reasons.

bullrun2020bro does nothing forbidden here and especially other users do the same! Like me too...

Whether qwk in the end rewards the contributions with merit depends on his objective assessment. And this assessment I personally would not oppose anything...
There I must honestly say, that it is a good solution, before source merit at the end still expire!
And most important to say is that EVERYONE who can read and write the German language has the possibility to submit his contributions there.
To also get the one or other merit for good contributions!

I find this public hostility a bit of a pity... especially because we all come from the same local board!

Bury the hatchet and get out of each other's way is the best way, I think...

bullrun2020bro is a known scammer who keeps making new accounts on bitcointalk every few months with help of his merit source friends like 1miau, qwk and SiNeReiNZzz. He has scammed a lot of people in the german board thru pm and links to fake exchanges

Okay.

Accusations without evidence are like a bicycle tire without air...
I think you could not show some anyway!
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
bullrun2020bro is a known scammer who keeps making new accounts on bitcointalk every few months with help of his merit source friends like 1miau, qwk and SiNeReiNZzz. He has scammed a lot of people in the german board thru pm and links to fake exchanges

Please don't attempt to provide any proof because nobody could possibly doubt a shit-stirring noob.
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 6809
Cashback 15%
Is Bitcointalk now a site where its allowed and supported to have a lot of fake accounts and give each other
merrit and fake trust?
Uh....yeah, where have you been since Jan. 2018 (and even before that as far as fake trust goes)?  It's certainly frowned upon, but even DT members don't really tag suspected merit abusers anymore because there's so much subjectivity involved in merit-giving between members.  Giving fake trust to an alt account might earn you a negative if the proof is solid enough, so I'd say at least that much isn't tolerated.

I don't know exactly what transpired between you and bullrun2020bro, but if he got those merits on the German local board, perhaps he's a good poster there?  I looked at his merit history and I can't access most of the posts of his that got merited.

In any case, merit abuse tends to be self-limiting since sMerits are relatively scarce and I wouldn't pull your hair out if you think someone got too many merits in too short a time span.  There's always been shit like that going on and probably always will be.  For the most part, I'd say the forum is a hell of a lot better than it used to be prior to the merit system being introduced.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
There is nothing wrong with a merit source posting a thread asking users to share their contributions. So that he had the possibility to look at the contributions bundled, alone for time reasons.

bullrun2020bro does nothing forbidden here and especially other users do the same! Like me too...

Whether qwk in the end rewards the contributions with merit depends on his objective assessment. And this assessment I personally would not oppose anything...
There I must honestly say, that it is a good solution, before source merit at the end still expire!
And most important to say is that EVERYONE who can read and write the German language has the possibility to submit his contributions there.
To also get the one or other merit for good contributions!

I find this public hostility a bit of a pity... especially because we all come from the same local board!

Bury the hatchet and get out of each other's way is the best way, I think...

bullrun2020bro is a known scammer who keeps making new accounts on bitcointalk every few months with help of his merit source friends like 1miau, qwk and SiNeReiNZzz. He has scammed a lot of people in the german board thru pm and links to fake exchanges

legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1043
αLPʜα αɴd ΩMeGa
There is nothing wrong with a merit source posting a thread asking users to share their contributions. So that he had the possibility to look at the contributions bundled, alone for time reasons.

bullrun2020bro does nothing forbidden here and especially other users do the same! Like me too...

Whether qwk in the end rewards the contributions with merit depends on his objective assessment. And this assessment I personally would not oppose anything...
There I must honestly say, that it is a good solution, before source merit at the end still expire!
And most important to say is that EVERYONE who can read and write the German language has the possibility to submit his contributions there.
To also get the one or other merit for good contributions!

I find this public hostility a bit of a pity... especially because we all come from the same local board!

Bury the hatchet and get out of each other's way is the best way, I think...
member
Activity: 224
Merit: 23
Lol how do you think all the merit sources and DT1 are spamming the most highly paid sig spots ?

Funny, I've been on DT the longest, and I don't have a paid signature.  Would love to debate with you if you ever get the courage.  

You can't remember last week. The fact you will protect proven scammers and trust abuse members for free is not something to speak proudly of. I mean there are maybe 3 or 4 DT1 that I wouldn't group in with most of the others.
Replace all with most if you dont understand that they're all can often mean the vast majority or as a general rule.


Now why running from every challenge to pop up here?
You're not greedy for money, you are sad and lonely and collude to have some pals who pretend they want to speak to you.

Well there is some kind of ponzi that someone says you were trying to set up but I've not looked at it.

I mean clearly the general observable motivator is financial greed. You have special needs that cant be solved with money alone.

Now back to the other thread and answer some straight questions and challenges based on independently verifiable actions you've taken on the forum. From scammer protecting, admitting to being scared to tag scammers, trust abusing, memory loss, laughable speculation that I'm now OG, dozing the forum treasurer and millions of the boards funds , ... just a few of your highlights mr I'm the longest serving DT1 ever lol.

Now debate where ever you like. I enjoy my new attention from you vod.
Don't go off me. Stick right by side and be sure to reply to as many posts of mine as you can from now on even if suchmoon posts little spammy pics demanding you stop. I know you of all people wont take orders from suchmoon.
Makes me sad foxpup is gone. He has allowed himself to be told what to do now I hear.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Lol how do you think all the merit sources and DT1 are spamming the most highly paid sig spots ?

Funny, I've been on DT the longest, and I don't have a paid signature.  Would love to debate with you if you ever get the courage. 
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