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jr. member
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You can use your computer to check the forum at a fixed time every day.
I use a computer to view articles all the time. I think computers are easier to read than mobile phones.
I'm not logged into my account on my phone. The phone is just handy for reading on the go.
I actually think mobile phones are less secure than computers. Now many gangsters are rampant, they dare to snatch your things in the crowd, and they may even read some data on your mobile phone for you.
sr. member
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You know what... most of those challenges can be over come...

Let's take "Power failures" as an example... my friends in South Africa has what they call, "Loadshedding" ... where they do not have power for hours every day. (The main power supplier cannot generate enough power, so they switch off the power at different stages to keep the power grid running)

These people use Generators and inverters / UPS's to stay operational during these power failures.. so they found solutions. Also, people in third world countries do not have super fast Internet... so they club together to pay for decent wireless solutions and they share the bandwidth. (So they all work from one location during Office hours)

You just have to make a plan to keep the pot cooking..... Wink

Planning is good and has never and will never fail those who did regardless

But all of those plans will not work if you done enforce it with funds and money

How do one who has less buy UPS worth $ 40 - $50 dollars. 5G network must have gone round some  places in the third world countries.
legendary
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It is believed that every country has it own demands for the use of a newly introduced system, just as the developing countries have this challenges same is being applicable to the developed ones from government regulations down to many embargoes levied on bitcoin and it's mining process by the governments from the developed countries, but in doing something, one has to be determined and get focused with or without this limitation to still got served very well with the better opportunity that comes in through bitcoin and the forum community regardless of the situation of the places we are.
I agree with you that every country has their own limitations, even the developed countries have one or two developments that may hinder the adoption of Bitcoin and their access to the forum. Just like Russia which I learnt that they only access this forum via VPN because their government blacklisted bitcointalk due to gambling activities in the forum. 

The amount of limitations in underdeveloped countries are very much higher than that of the developed countries who believe in liberty and human rights. Most of the developed countries don't even pray more about security because they have an environment that is nice. Where there is no under development or unemployment you could hardly see someone that will batch on you to snatch your phone.
However, at every challenge that an environment present you, there must be a way to adapt to it that is why we are humans
newbie
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This is the reason why Bitcoin adoption still not widely adopted because they still have a problem in their own countries. I'd say developing countries have a problem regarding financial stuffs, if you work harder and earn more money, you could become mid range class and can buy Bitcoin.

The another problem is if you live in a country where it's very strict and too much censorship e.g. North Korea, China, etc. If they permanently ban Bitcoin and you want to buy it, you need to find a hard way to achieve it.

In China, bitcoin is easy to buy as long as you approve of it. My Chinese friends are not affected by the policy and can still buy and sell freely through Biance.
hero member
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-   Epileptic power supply: In my location there is electric power but its supply is unpredictable.
In addition to the very good power bank suggested, you can try to get one of these medium generators that are very economical.

If you can mange to get a new one or a fairly used one still in very good working condition, they could serve you a lot. With as little as two litres of PMS, they could run for about seven hours, that's a lot of time to power your device and boost your power bank

40000mah power bank is even more economical,  this is something that can be used to charge a phone up to 3 or 4 days , it much affordable for members who don't have constant electricity in their location.  Gone are the days if electricity seized people will become stranded to charge cell phones. Their are many alternatives to electricity that affordable members, electricity will only a limitation only if one allows it to be limitation.  The purpose of power banks and charge generators is to help people don't have constant electricity.
hero member
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It is believed that every country has it own demands for the use of a newly introduced system, just as the developing countries have this challenges same is being applicable to the developed ones from government regulations down to many embargoes levied on bitcoin and it's mining process by the governments from the developed countries, but in doing something, one has to be determined and get focused with or without this limitation to still got served very well with the better opportunity that comes in through bitcoin and the forum community regardless of the situation of the places we are.
legendary
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Just sort of made me realise also that this forum, despite being really low tech, is probably worst suited to the sort of connection a person might have in developing countries. Before getting into power, internet, etc... the access is a bit of a problem:

Mobile phones, very low-end smartphones with built-in browsers anyway, is how I know most people will ever be able to use internet, but it's a huge pain to navigate this forum on mobile, much less type out things easily, use the codes, quotes... I know because I use it a lot on mobile. It's a huge inconvenience but I still use it as I commute a lot.

It's easier to use social media to type and see and respond to things than it is on the forum, I completely understand why people don't fall in love and stay (and why my son keeps laughing at me responding on forum on my phone).
legendary
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You can get get a power bank. There are very good powerbanks that has up to 4000mAh. It's can charge your phone to 100% multiple times. This can help you keep your mobile phone operational at all times.
Here's a link to the picture of a very good type of powerbank.

I quote it for visibility.

So far, my internet needs have had no problems, it's pretty smooth, although I've also complained several times. I rarely use my phone to access the forum because my use is limited during work. So while cell phones can actually be helpful in some situations, I honestly don't use them much. Same thing about the electrical power requirements, I may not be like the OP. However, there are several suggestions that can be understood and considered, including using a power bank to meet cellphone battery consumption.


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-   Unexposed and corrupt law enforcement agencies: Most of the police officials we have in my area are not aware of the happening in the Bitcoin space. They are not well informed or aware that an individual can get a moderate income from Bitcoin. Immediately they see a crypto wallet in your phone, they would assume that you are an internet fraudster. Hence, sometimes they use it as an opportunity to intimidate and extort money from Bitcoiners.
Honestly, this is quite surprising. I didn't hope it to last much longer, obviously they need to have the right information before determining someone is guilty or a fraud.
legendary
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You know what... most of those challenges can be over come...

Let's take "Power failures" as an example... my friends in South Africa has what they call, "Loadshedding" ... where they do not have power for hours every day. (The main power supplier cannot generate enough power, so they switch off the power at different stages to keep the power grid running)

These people use Generators and inverters / UPS's to stay operational during these power failures.. so they found solutions. Also, people in third world countries do not have super fast Internet... so they club together to pay for decent wireless solutions and they share the bandwidth. (So they all work from one location during Office hours)

You just have to make a plan to keep the pot cooking..... Wink
sr. member
Activity: 756
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Epileptic power supply: In my location there is electric power but its supply is unpredictable. Sometimes the power supply is rationed but there is no guarantee that you would have power even when it is your turn. The most annoying part of it is that sometimes you would be disconnected from the source because these corrupt power company officials want to exploit money from you. There are commercial phone charging businesses but charging a laptop there might be risky. Generators and fuel are expensive and very dangerous to use. The carbon monoxide emission from generators has killed many families in my location. Solar energy might be cool but are there other options?


You can get get a power bank. There are very good powerbanks that has up to 4000mAh. It's can charge your phone to 100% multiple times. This can help you keep your mobile phone operational at all times.
Here's a link to the picture of a very good type of powerbank.

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hero member
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Epileptic power supply: .  

Poor Internet Supply:

Like other developing countries, electricity problems and internet supply in our country is very dire.  Especially the electricity supply in our country is currently in a very bad condition.  Load shedding is a very common thing in our country.  Loadshedding has become an integral part of our lives just like daily necessities.  In particular, below image shows the electric supply pole/post in front of my area ie my house.  In our country, especially in forested or rural areas, electric lines are placed in the trees or forests.  As a result, during the stormy season, especially on rainy days, my area gets electricity two days a week, while the remaining five days are busy with supply line repair work.  Moreover, the trees fell on the supply lines and cut the power lines, resulting in blackouts in our area.  So how am I supposed to pass the time as a member of a bitcoin forum.  Moreover, let's leave aside the Internet.  If there is no electricity supply line then our internet system is also disconnected.  We have to run internet using mobile operator SIM.  But again if there is no electricity it gives a very weak connection.  Where the developed world uses 4G/5G, we have to use 3G or lower internet connections.  So tell us how poor we middle income countries or low income countries have to use internet and electricity.


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hero member
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I'm also in a developing country but luckily we don't have intermittent power supply. But we do from time to time have black outs which is unannounced, and then it will go back after 30 minutes or even longer. Same with internet connectivity, we have one of the poorest in our region, although services have been upgraded, we have to pay like $50 or higher just to have a good and unlimited bandwidth every month. As for the phones, I owned one but I don't used it to post here because it's too difficult for me. I just used them to browse the community when I'm out of the house but I don't login. I agree that it really poses a challenge, but I guess I was able to still stay here despite all the issues.
sr. member
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If you can mange to get a new one or a fairly used one still in very good working condition,

That generator is not cheap to buy by poor people living in third world countries. The current price is around N110,000 in Nigeria naira. That is around $160 in today's exchange rate and that is high if we go by a released data that most Nigerians live on a $1 per day. That is how bad the masses of Nigeria copes on daily basis. If am to choose, I will go with power bank. Just get around 30,000mAh to 40,000mAh battery strength of power bank which costs less than N30,000 and you will have a  smooth experience with it.
sr. member
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First of all I would applaud your courage to putting up these challenges and also being steadfast on the platform. Not everyone would want to share this nature of their experience with the platform seeking contribution and advise because they actually put themselves and nation in some kind of image which no one wants to be identified with.

Many nations struggle or are struggling with epileptic power supply that they can't afford a good power supply for an hour. Most times, just as you've said, they ration their electricity and at then, they are still insufficient to distribute to the people and the worst of it all is that you still receive electricity bill at the end of the to pay (based on your country payment system) when they themselves know the truth as not to meet up with constant electric power supply. It is very frustrating to be having such experience.

With respect to the above, what I can advise is that you get an inverter which would be of help to you often times. You do well to keep it charged when you have Power supply and ration it based on time of activities with internet and online jobs.

Then for network challenges, you would need to know when the internet service flows very well so as to hookup with your work. That would save you some stress of going in and off connection.

For security agencies, you woul need to be careful so as not to fall prey of them. Be alert and cautious when doing online deals. Your safety matters.
hero member
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Things here are not so extreme like in your country

count that a joy and privilege because many don't seem to enjoy the free access to those items in abundance.

but I share the same concern regards criminality. For that reason I avoid accessing smartphone in public places and keep it well protected in a safe pocket.

this is a good application way to exercise wisdom, it does much good to protect individual from assault or physical attack of any kind when in public.

never tell people you don't have a solid relationship about your cryptocurrency adoption and holdings

by this same way, many have rendered themselves open for an attack being unaware, there must be limitation to what mouth must tell especially when in public.

Another limitation is the difficult when acquiring new devices to replace the older ones which become obsolete and damaged, because we don't have much money to spare.

things might be hard atimes to be able to afford buying new items like the mobile phone we use, but it is better late than never, i will not advise selling your old devise to someone nor buy a second hand device either because lot of danger comes in through them, once you don't use them again, dismantle them into pieces and discard but dont sell them when they got malfunctioned.
hero member
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Things here are not so extreme like in your country, but I share the same concern regards criminality. For that reason I avoid accessing smartphone in public places and keep it well protected in a safe pocket. Furthermore, never tell people you don't have a solid relationship about your cryptocurrency adoption and holdings. In developing countries we must be careful, because many people are lurking around for any opportunities that can give them some easy money. If they spot you as a potential target, they may go for you, or give the hint to some criminals who will get interested on you as well.

Another limitation is the difficult when acquiring new devices to replace the older ones which become obsolete and damaged, because we don't have much money to spare. And if we point out the quality factor, it gets worse, since quality standards that are normal for citizens from developed countries, are in fact luxury and rare goods for citizens from developing realms.

It's really annoying to have to stick with those low tier brands technological gadgets which end not lasting long and providing inferior experience to users.
hero member
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-   Unexposed and corrupt law enforcement agencies: Most of the police officials we have in my area are not aware of the happening in the Bitcoin space. They are not well informed or aware that an individual can get a moderate income from Bitcoin. Immediately they see a crypto wallet in your phone, they would assume that you are an internet fraudster. Hence, sometimes they use it as an opportunity to intimidate and extort money from Bitcoiners.
These are extremely genuine problems that can only be properly understood by people who have really experienced them. The fact that the majority of law enforcement personnel lack professionalism scares the very daylights out of me. Despite the rule stating police officers are not allowed to search people's phones, every young person in Nigeria is aware that it is unwise to debate with police officers over this. Those that did this did not survive to tell the tale. Here are some things I do to keep from standing out: I clean-shave, I dress nicely, I don't stay up late, and when I do, I leave my phone, which includes my Bitcoin app, at home. Finally, I make an effort to get to know some significant figures in the community since they may be needed if everything else fails.

hero member
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Just like any technology that has been present, there is always that adaptation that people have to embrace. This forum was created in order to be the main repository and discussion of all crypto-related news/threads. As such, it exists solely on the internet, like social media, etc. It just so happened that this is a forum.

The limitations that you posted can also be applicable to anything that solely exists in the internet. But the biggest difference is the wallet that some local exchanges have.

As someone who lives in a third-world country, my biggest limitation is indeed the source of internet. With the latter being an essential rather than a want, at this day and age, people should have at least some stable connection in their homes in order to access this privilege.
legendary
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-   Epileptic power supply: In my location there is electric power but its supply is unpredictable.
In addition to the very good power bank suggested, you can try to get one of these medium generators that are very economical.

If you can mange to get a new one or a fairly used one still in very good working condition, they could serve you a lot. With as little as two litres of PMS, they could run for about seven hours, that's a lot of time to power your device and boost your power bank.

-Poor Internet Supply:
Find out the internet provider that is strongest in your area and switch to them, if the possibility of moving to another place is absent.

High Crime Rate:
Lead a low key life, don't draw attention to yourself, and always be highly security conscious.
legendary
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Just a few additions to consider before buying a powerbank. Take note of the Powers Bank's power output, their ports, and its battery capacity preferably the mAh recommendation by others.

You should at the very least be aware of the power output of your laptop's charger because they vary in output depending on the type of laptop they supply power for. A typical office laptop needs between 40 and 60 watts, whereas most of gaming laptop uses around 230 watts overall. While it is technically feasible to charge your laptop with a lower power output, the longer charging time would be your issue. Your laptop will take longer to charge if the power bank has a lower wattage.

As for the ports, they usually come with adapters that allows you to plug your laptop's own charger into the power bank. Plus, there shouldn't be much of a problem because, as far as I'm aware, new power banks supported USB type-C connectors (if you have one).

High Crime Rate:
..there is a high rate of snatching of phones and other technological gadgets....
The best course of action, in my opinion, is to refrain from using your phone at all, especially in places with lots of people, like wet markets. In the Philippines, snatching is a well-known crime that continues to this day and you have no choice but to avoid using your phone unless it's an emergency. Also, practice only keeping a tiny amount of bitcoin on your phone because you know that's the basic.
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