Some myths bitcoin has defeated. - page 3.

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1.Bitcoin still consumes lots of energy. It doesn't matter if the energy is "green" or "dirty".
2.There's still a possibility for Bitcoin to get banned by the big governments around the world. This possibility will remain forever.
3.Bitcoin is used by criminals, just like any other currency or payment method that exists in the world. I don't know about any currency or payment method, that has never been used by criminals.
4.Bitcoin isn't a bubble, but the BTC price can form price bubbles, just like any other financial asset, that is being traded on the financial markets.
5.The scalability problem remains, whether you like it or not. Sad

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I think there are some other myths that need to be handled, related to Bitcoin. This will be very brief, but you could string a paragraph out of each.

11. Bitcoin pollutes the environment

*Most bitcoin mining is using renewable energy.

12. Bitcoin is noisy and causes hearing damage

*This is the fault of careless mining farms that don't follow regulations, and should be fixed at a government level.

13. Anyone using Bitcoin can be traced

*Only if there is a paper trail that leads to somebody's documents or social media. Good luck otherwise.

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Quote from: Floxynice on September 12, 2024, 01:52:10 PM

In conclusion, Bitcoin has gone through lots of phases where it kept improving , thereby infusing more trust and confidence in the hearts of it's adopters. We should not be surprised that the number of bitcoin supporters are increasing as the day goes by because the doubts and fears in the hearts of many have been cleared, we are hoping for a glorious future with Bitcoin.

Most of the explanations in this post are valid and the presentation makes it more interesting. Bitcoin has suffered many obituaries. There have been several predictions that Bitcoin will not exist for more than a particular year, but Bitcoin has even outlived some of the predictors. The negative perspective about Bitcoin is changing rapidly because awareness is growing in many countries.

The government and other institutions are now seeking means to bring Bitcoin under their control via regulatory laws. The new phase of government attack is no more ban but strict regulations which might undermine the main goal of Bitcoin.

Another challenge to the use of Bitcoin as a currency is seasonal attacks on the network by ordinals which make transaction fees go very high. This might discourage people from adoption.

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There have been lot of things said by the people and even government regarding bitcoin in all manner of tones, but despite all, it is still what we are having till today standing strong because of it foundation, we should be prepared for the things ahead, which may be unpleasant coming from those that don't regard or appreciate the existence of bitcoin, just as the way many of them would have profess that bitcoin is scam, bitcoin is fraudulent and it will soon die like a bubble, yet we have it keep growing more stronger and better without loopholes on it adoption.

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Thank you for the effort you put into creating this summary of the most important objections that Bitcoin has received throughout its history and the easy responses to these objections that have all proven to be unsuccessful.

From Bitcoin being a Ponzi scheme to a bubble to it consuming too much energy to it being used by criminals and terrorists to many other ridiculous objections that can be easily denied, Bitcoin is still going strong and has proven itself against all these accusations and is gaining increasing interest globally and has been officially adopted by El Salvador and is now a key card in the US elections.

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Bitcoin consumes much energy...

That's a reality and not a myth, even if some miners use green energy the reality is more than 90% use "nasty" energy. In theory, right now the miners consume 70 y 150 TWh, and that's a lot of energy, it could be compared with cities or with some country's consumption. And there is nothing that we can do about it now. The energy consumption will not go down, that's a fact.

The only way to avoid that consumption is to migrate Bitcoin from PoW to PoS.

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Some websites and resources to debunk FUD against Bitcoin.

https://endthefud.org/
Energy https://endthefud.org/energy
Inflation https://endthefud.org/inflation
Money https://endthefud.org/money
Pow vs PoS https://endthefud.org/PoW
Control https://endthefud.org/control
Governments https://endthefud.org/governments
Justice https://endthefud.org/justice

Bitcoin already uses green energy
https://bitcoincleanup.com/

Bitcoin Mining Council with their reports to debunk many fud on energy. You can read their report's abstract, full report, or watch Youtube videos.
https://bitcoinminingcouncil.com/

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 12, 2024, 03:01:36 PM

I remember you. You did the topic on tables. Glad to see you have created a one. Great job.

Thank you very much, I also remember you from begginers and help board where you kept guiding me to create my first table.

Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 12, 2024, 03:01:36 PM

If I were you I'd the text would be in the regular format without being bolded. You can read it already, making it bold is in my estimation unnecessary.

I have implemented your suggestion and it seems better. Thanks once again.

@Accardo and @Fivestar4everMVP, what I meant by Bitcoin not having a real use case is the myth that bitcoin is for speculative purposes only. If people stop speculating and trading bitcoin, the bubble will burst. This has been a popular bitcoin myth.

@Hamza2424, I will give your post a special reply. Thanks.

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on September 12, 2024, 04:17:13 PM

Hmm, Narratives keep changing, with every cycle many newbies join the community and they fear of many things and this is due to what influencers feed them in the wrong way. TBH after a certain period of time they realize and evolve with Bitcoin as you've mentioned Bitcoin countered all of these narratives, and this is never a never-ending cycle, narratives will keep changing as new people keep joining.

These narratives could actually be a base to some stronghold. When these narratives are disputed as it eventually is, they begin to see reasons why they should filter most of the narratives they are fed with out there.

Quote from: Stepstowealth on September 12, 2024, 04:53:24 PM

The wrong information that people have is because they listened to what they were told without trying to verify the authenticity of it because most of this myths may have easily been waved away if these people have just tried to verify from good sources on the internet.

I wouldn’t say these newbies shouldn’t listen to what they find out there, it’s a part of the learning process and they should by far be open to learning. Not having to cap the information to be final and continue on the part of verifying the informations they expose themselves to.

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on September 12, 2024, 04:17:13 PM

Hmm, Narratives keep changing, with every cycle many newbies join the community and they fear of many things and this is due to what influencers feed them in the wrong way. TBH after a certain period of time they realize and evolve with Bitcoin as you've mentioned Bitcoin countered all of these narratives, and this is never a never-ending cycle, narratives will keep changing as new people keep joining.

The wrong information that people have is because they listened to what they were told without trying to verify the authenticity of it because most of this myths may have easily been waved away if these people have just tried to verify from good sources on the internet. Critics will always continue to generate new myths and wrong information to feed people who are poorly informed, and then the people who take this information may also share this information to other who care not to verify what people tell them. If more people learn to verify information, many myths will not survive.

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Quote from: Accardo on September 12, 2024, 04:07:46 PM

Op, there is enough effort on this thread, but the last point is not familiar to me, because the birth of bitcoin came with the blockchain technology, which has been bitcoin's use case since day one. Therefore, those who may have thought that bitcoin had no use-case didn't know about its blockchain, and how it serves banks, government, cybersecurity, smart contract etc. On a broader level, I do not remember seeing any content regarding bitcoin having no use case.

Since most think that Bitcoin is a bubble, it is obvious that they think that it will not have use case. Aside from that, those people who are intentionally downgrading Bitcoin, they will obviously spread the word about Bitcoin having no use case but just some speculative investment that can crash anytime.

With over the decade of Bitcoin history, many had gained profit and many also losses in this Bitcoin trade but we cannot blame that on Bitcoin since it is the person's decision to sell early than have patience and reap a great reward.

That said, Bitcoin had proven again and again that it has a real-life case use but those who have ill-intention, even though knows it, refuse to recognize it.

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Quote from: Accardo on September 12, 2024, 04:07:46 PM

Op, there is enough effort on this thread, but the last point is not familiar to me, because the birth of bitcoin came with the blockchain technology, which has been bitcoin's use case since day one. Therefore, those who may have thought that bitcoin had no use-case didn't know about its blockchain, and how it serves banks, government, cybersecurity, smart contract etc. On a broader level, I do not remember seeing any content regarding bitcoin having no use case.

Perhaps what the OP's referring as used case is that Bitcoin has no real life usage. But we all know that Satoshi originally designed it as payment scheme. But it evolved in the last ten years or so. And so it's really wrong to say that it doesn't have a use case. We can even say that it give birth to crypto base online platform.

For sure some old gamblers here will attest that you just need a Bitcoin address for deposit and withdrawal and you will go totally (pseudo)anonymous. And definitely, now it's a investment vehicle, we have institutions and whales and who's who on the market right now.

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Quote from: Accardo on September 12, 2024, 04:07:46 PM

Op, there is enough effort on this thread, but the last point is not familiar to me, because the birth of bitcoin came with the blockchain technology, which has been bitcoin's use case since day one. Therefore, those who may have thought that bitcoin had no use-case didn't know about its blockchain, and how it serves banks, government, cybersecurity, smart contract etc. On a broader level, I do not remember seeing any content regarding bitcoin having no use case.

I too have never come across any information or content as regards to bitcoin having no real use case, aside from the blockchain that you talked about, the bitcoin white paper which most of us are familiar with, deals extensively on the usecases of bitcoin, and from the beginning, many of us know that Bitcoin is a currency, used for peer to peer transactions amongst the holders of the cryptocurrency, and was also introduced as a means through which holders can easily without delays and high fees, send money abroad and across different countries of the world easily without any intermediaries or third parties.

This are common usecases that any one interested In bitcoin should already know about or be aware of from the onset, it's absolutely funny to assume that anyone will believe that bitcoin doesnt have a use case, how then was Lazlo able to by two pizzas with 10,000 bitcoins in 2010 of bitcoin lack usecase?.

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Hmm, Narratives keep changing, with every cycle many newbies join the community and they fear of many things and this is due to what influencers feed them in the wrong way. TBH after a certain period of time they realize and evolve with Bitcoin as you've mentioned Bitcoin countered all of these narratives, and this is never a never-ending cycle, narratives will keep changing as new people keep joining.

TBH, Bitcoin never disappointed me in such a way, I'm not sure why but now if I look back, this is because I never followed any of the influences to the end, I did follow many but just for the sake of learning, my decisions were my own, some were stupid but they helped to progress. The current fear is about new ATH, and maybe next week it might change, so make a decision by considering the long-term perspective. Nothing is impossible, 67k was impossible but Bitcoin did it, similar to that look forward.

TBH, I got this thread's link from the help & beginners section, no matter what your presentation is cool.

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Op, there is enough effort on this thread, but the last point is not familiar to me, because the birth of bitcoin came with the blockchain technology, which has been bitcoin's use case since day one. Therefore, those who may have thought that bitcoin had no use-case didn't know about its blockchain, and how it serves banks, government, cybersecurity, smart contract etc. On a broader level, I do not remember seeing any content regarding bitcoin having no use case.

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I remember you. You did the topic on tables. Glad to see you have created a one. Great job. If I were you I'd the text would be in the regular format without being bolded. You can read it already, making it bold is in my estimation unnecessary. With regards to the topic Bitcoin has shattered a lot of myths and expectations. It will still continue to do so for a very long time to come.

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Introduction:

Glory, Glory to Bitcoin. A young technology that was welcomed with lots of criticism and skepticism just like electricity, television, the Internet and many other technologies when they were new. Many thought that Bitcoin will not last up to a decade, infact Bitcoin was classified as a major ponzi scheme and even till now many people are still not able to understand Bitcoin, neither do they trust it. Despite all the attacks, Bitcoin has not stopped proving all those who distrusted it wrong, Bitcoin kept winning amidst fights from individuals, corporate bodies and even the government. In this article, I will outline some of the fears and doubts of people about Bitcoin that Bitcoin has defeated over the time.

	Fear/Doubts	How Bitcoin overcame
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1.	Bitcoin is a bubble	Bitcoin has experience many crashes which was supposed to be a point at which the bubble will burst, but after every crash Bitcoin will grow stronger and even recording a new all time high, thereby continually sending shame to its obituary writers
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2.	Bitcoin will be hacked	Many people, especially those who doesn't understand the Bitcoin network has the fear that bitcoin will be hacked. Although, exchanges, mixers, personal wallets can be hacked but the bitcoin network has proven to be very secured. The decentralized nature of bitcoin and the PoW protocol makes it unhackable.
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3.	Bitcoin consumes much energy	Gone are the days that enemies of bitcoin use it's energy consumption against it. These days, miners are shifting to renewable energy sources. With this, there is no more fear or concern about energy consumption and the safety of man's ecosystem
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4.	Bitcoin will be banned	In the early days of Bitcoin, there was serious fear that Bitcoin will be banned by the government but now Bitcoin has proven that it cannot be banned by the whole government of the world since there is no central government deciding for the whole world. While one country is trying to ban it, another country like El Salvador is making bitcoin a legal tender.
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5.	Bitcoin is used only by criminals	In the early days of Bitcoin, it was seen as a tool by criminals, money launderers and kidnappers to make payments without being caught. But in the real sense, Bitcoin network is so transparent that paying with cash is more safe than paying with bitcoin. However, institutions have adopted Bitcoin. Bitcoin is used for purchases and has been used by many companies as payment method. So the idea that bitcoin is being used by criminals has been defeated by Bitcoin
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6.	Bitcoin is not scalable	while it has been a general notion and a problem to Bitcoin about its scalability, the developers working on the Bitcoin open source are not relenting in solving this problem. Today we have layer two solutions like lightning network that has tackled the issue of scalability. We have the implementation of segregated witness (segwit) that has also lightened the block weight, we do hope for future upgrades.
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7.	Bitcoin will be defeated by a better altcoin	There have been some concerns that due to some limitations in Bitcoin network that a better altcoin would someday or some time outperform Bitcoin. But it is over a decade and we are yet to have an altcoin that is as secured as Bitcoin and that is 100% decentralized. Inasmuch as some altcoins have some better advantages over Bitcoin in some certain aspects but in general, there is no altcoin and none in view to overtake bitcoin.
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8.	Institutions will never adopt Bitcoin	Many people said due to the volatility of Bitcoin, institutions will never adopt it and therefore global adoption is not possible. But this year, we have seen a great ETF approval and many institutions getting into Bitcoin. Bitcoin has successfully defeated that myth.
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9.	Bitcoin can never function as a currency	It is true that the vast majority of bitcoin users now use bitcoin more as an asset for investment than currency, but that does not negate the fact that bitcoin can also serve as a currency. We have seen people buy houses, buy lands, buy products online and even gamble with bitcoin as currency and some countries have also adopted bitcoin as a legal tender where the citizens buy goods and services with bitcoin.
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10.	Bitcoin has no real use case	There has been fear and doubt that bitcoin has no real use case and is intangible therefore, it will likely collapse. But Bitcoin has proven that it has a use case such as store of value, investments, cross border transactions and many more. So, as Bitcoin evolves, the more the use case of bitcoin keeps emerging.

In conclusion, Bitcoin has gone through lots of phases where it kept improving , thereby infusing more trust and confidence in the hearts of it's adopters. We should not be surprised that the number of bitcoin supporters are increasing as the day goes by because the doubts and fears in the hearts of many have been cleared, we are hoping for a glorious future with Bitcoin.

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