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Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process.

This is already implemented when verifying one's identity. The platform always ask to present a selfie or even a video interview to verify the person.

Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

With these kind of features, they might actually help or lessen the addiction of a gambler.

I doubt it because a person hooked on gambling can easily bypass and ignore the 2 and 3 suggestions you made.

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Quote from: Wexnident on May 15, 2023, 08:00:14 AM

Do the casinos you play in still have their rules from the past? Not just a selfie, they even require people to put up a lot of other documents like bills as proof of identity afaik. It's not even for preventing addiction or anything (nor it can really), it's just the way the laws that they follow work. And honestly speaking, probably ANY type of rule or ToS in casinos that directly involve in stopping players would inevitably cause them a loss, and at the end of the day they're a business, so I highly doubt they'd do that. That's why self-exclusion exists, it's a great way to let users know that they "seem" to care, but they won't really force it onto them no, cause it's a direct loss on their part.

Maybe the time can be a useful one though. Not like someone who really wants to gamble would care tbf.

They say past is past but there is nothing wrong with it in terms of casino rules. The requirements that you listed there doesn't came from the past but these are the modern day verification. They care called KYC.

In the past, people in crypto gambling never experienced this because that is where the crypto started ( to be fully decentralized ). Right, KYC is not a good measure to stop addiction. They have a different purpose but requiring ID's helps to stop underage people from gambling in as they are more prone to addiction than the adults as adults can think mature enough than them. If a gambler notice that the casino seem to care, they might support them more than to stop.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on May 16, 2023, 01:46:56 AM

the problem with this is that for sure only few casino will implement this because the profit that they will earning is reduced unless they really care on gamblers. Though if there are really regulations about it then it could be a good use to prevent addictions.

Most ofbthe casinos will not even support this at all because it will not work in their favour and talking about addiction to the gamblers involved, it's better they don't have the money at all at hand because they will always finds a means to ensure that they gambles either in physical or online.

I seem to have the same thought as you, friend, where if a feature cannot provide any advantage to the casino at all, then it is impossible to set it because casinos are a place to do business, so they will only add something that they feel can generate some profit.
Besides, I haven't seen any of these features in the casinos I've used so far.
Now this is a little inaccurate because a gambling addict will do anything to get some money to gamble and the negative impact of gambling addicts who don't have money is that they can commit criminal acts to get some money.

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It is unthinkable for any casino to not have a chat feature. I think that is the most important one and it will stay the most important one for a long time as well. I feel like if you can handle that, then we are going to actually end up seeing something changing for good and that should be the most important thing.

Not many people have anything to show for it and they think that it is not going to change much neither, but I believe that if you could end up with something decent, then people will be able to actually make a big change for you in the end. I believe that if we can make a big change, then we are going to end up with something like multiple coins too, that would be good, but chat is still very much the most important one by far.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on May 16, 2023, 01:46:56 AM

I think ive heard some casinos that has features that was called responsible gambling on which they will monitor the activity of the gambler is he is already over betting or spending too much time on gambling on which it is really good

It's good on the gamblers side but bot encouraging on the casino side because that's part of the ways they make more money to their casino business, for an average gambler, i think settings control measures shouldn't be a difficult task to do, some cannot just set some limits to how far they go in gambling or any other activities they do.

Quote from: xSkylarx on May 16, 2023, 01:46:56 AM

the problem with this is that for sure only few casino will implement this because the profit that they will earning is reduced unless they really care on gamblers. Though if there are really regulations about it then it could be a good use to prevent addictions.

Most ofbthe casinos will not even support this at all because it will not work in their favour and talking about addiction to the gamblers involved, it's better they don't have the money at all at hand because they will always finds a means to ensure that they gambles either in physical or online.

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Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

Gambling is now really accesible nowadays, it starts with the tradition gambling wherein you are going to specific place to play personally or to gamble personally. It is now easily accessible because it already developed and we can now gamble online, there are so many websites online where we can gamble and the woeful fact is that people with any age can now gamble, if the website requires the idendtity then they can also use their parents ID or someone the know with valid ID.

I think it's time some gambling sites began to look into email before approving kyc from their users. Just as Binance does to their users although I don't know if is applicable to all their users but then when passing kyc to trade p2p it was said of using email that bears the same with your documents and also with same name that is on the local bank account, otherwise their identity may not be verified.

Now what makes me brought this issues is about the children using their parents identity to verify them selves to have access to the gambling sites, if those gambling site are this mean to restrict under age gambler they are meant to go into detail of looking towards requirements in other to still limit under age gamblers.

Then facials verification is also something very important to track down those that are secretly stealing their parents id, if this is required I don't think any under age child could have the courage to meet their parents to help them pass kyc while the parents knows the implications involved.

This is a good input.

It's really common nowadays to use the parent's ID just to become verified in certain platforms. I know some friends way back who used his mom's ID just to make his account on an e-wallet fully verified to be able to play and bet on cockfighting since it is the only mode of payment for that matter. Hence, it will really defeat the purpose of including KYC is important matters such as this could be bypassed by minors who aren't supposed to be lurking around and even take part in any gambling activities.

It's a good suggestion to have facial verification and recognition before you could verify and fully access an account. It's an additional layer of security for the casino owners to ensure that they are not giving a free pass to minors on their platform and at the same time, an assurance for the gamblers with account containing huge betting funds, that their account won't be accessed by anyone other than them.

I don't think if there are gambling site that has implemented that feature as additional security to pass kyc to their site, if this is being applied I don't there would be under age gamblers. Although gambling sites are becoming more competitive nowadays because when gamblers senses much difficulties by passing kyc on ant gambling site they may quite and look for another less stressfree site to gamble.

With this gambling site owners are trying their best to eliminate much difficulty associated to their kyc system in other to gain more popularity over their competitors.

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Quote from: piebeyb on May 17, 2023, 09:48:03 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on May 17, 2023, 09:20:07 AM

I disagree, why the casino need tightening their rules and ask many thing for verification purpose?

It's pointless if you hope the gambler to not become an addict through monitoring how long they have gamble, they can just gamble on another casino to make them can gamble for 24/7, correct?

Asking a selfie pict is useless too because image can be photoshopped to make it looks legit, nowadays technology is really insane.

I think the feature that the OP recommended is useless because it's the opposite of the situation, after all people still hate KYC how can they take a selfie to identify their account to play let alone monitor gamblers play, I think the casino is enough to ask for documents and there is no need to have to add selfie photos that are clearly burdensome for gamblers too many features that are complicated regulations will be abandoned in the end.

I also think it is useless for the casinos to stop people from becoming addicts because they will still play at other casinos, it all comes down to being able to control themselves so they don't become addicts and to be responsible gamblers, moreover the casinos will be very rich if many addicts continue to gamble in their casinos. Grin

As of now, I frequently run into casinos asking for selfies as proof that we are the owners of the documents we will be providing in order to meet their KYC standards. Avoiding identity theft will be advantageous to both them and the gambler. In terms of player activity tracking, I don't believe casinos will ever make this a priority or be able to stop their customers from gambling. Once a player develops a gambling addiction, it is up to him to decide whether or not to curb this behavior.
The only thing casinos could do is just set reminders and cautions about the consequences of excessive gambling because gambling addiction is a personal choice.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on May 17, 2023, 09:20:07 AM

I disagree, why the casino need tightening their rules and ask many thing for verification purpose?

It's pointless if you hope the gambler to not become an addict through monitoring how long they have gamble, they can just gamble on another casino to make them can gamble for 24/7, correct?

Asking a selfie pict is useless too because image can be photoshopped to make it looks legit, nowadays technology is really insane.

I think the feature that the OP recommended is useless because it's the opposite of the situation, after all people still hate KYC how can they take a selfie to identify their account to play let alone monitor gamblers play, I think the casino is enough to ask for documents and there is no need to have to add selfie photos that are clearly burdensome for gamblers too many features that are complicated regulations will be abandoned in the end.

I also think it is useless for the casinos to stop people from becoming addicts because they will still play at other casinos, it all comes down to being able to control themselves so they don't become addicts and to be responsible gamblers, moreover the casinos will be very rich if many addicts continue to gamble in their casinos. Grin

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Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

Gambling is now really accesible nowadays, it starts with the tradition gambling wherein you are going to specific place to play personally or to gamble personally. It is now easily accessible because it already developed and we can now gamble online, there are so many websites online where we can gamble and the woeful fact is that people with any age can now gamble, if the website requires the idendtity then they can also use their parents ID or someone the know with valid ID.

I think it's time some gambling sites began to look into email before approving kyc from their users. Just as Binance does to their users although I don't know if is applicable to all their users but then when passing kyc to trade p2p it was said of using email that bears the same with your documents and also with same name that is on the local bank account, otherwise their identity may not be verified.

Now what makes me brought this issues is about the children using their parents identity to verify them selves to have access to the gambling sites, if those gambling site are this mean to restrict under age gambler they are meant to go into detail of looking towards requirements in other to still limit under age gamblers.

Then facials verification is also something very important to track down those that are secretly stealing their parents id, if this is required I don't think any under age child could have the courage to meet their parents to help them pass kyc while the parents knows the implications involved.

This is a good input.

It's really common nowadays to use the parent's ID just to become verified in certain platforms. I know some friends way back who used his mom's ID just to make his account on an e-wallet fully verified to be able to play and bet on cockfighting since it is the only mode of payment for that matter. Hence, it will really defeat the purpose of including KYC is important matters such as this could be bypassed by minors who aren't supposed to be lurking around and even take part in any gambling activities.

It's a good suggestion to have facial verification and recognition before you could verify and fully access an account. It's an additional layer of security for the casino owners to ensure that they are not giving a free pass to minors on their platform and at the same time, an assurance for the gamblers with account containing huge betting funds, that their account won't be accessed by anyone other than them.

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Quote from: Solosanz on May 17, 2023, 03:21:03 AM

Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process.
2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today.
3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing.

1. Do you think licensed casino nowadays aren't asking selfie picture as a KYC verification? it's more than that, they even ask driving license, your bank account, your monthly check etc. However selfie picture isn't really a valid proof, what if his parent already took it for verifying an exchange or he lie to his parent the selfie will used for a good thing?

2. and 3. Nope, casino is want to make a lot money, why they need to stop a gambler who's keep losing?

Never encountered platforms asking for these personal details such as bank details (aside from bank number) and specific IDs and I think there's no need to especially in this industry wherein anonymity is supported. If casinos would push such they should rather be on Centralized margin or fiat based.

Features on the other which I guess would be helpful in gambling platforms and players themselves would be instant deposits during or halfway your play time and not a repetitive procedure for a single day. Quite of a 'one click' feature. Also an enhanced bot detector.

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I disagree, why the casino need tightening their rules and ask many thing for verification purpose?

It's pointless if you hope the gambler to not become an addict through monitoring how long they have gamble, they can just gamble on another casino to make them can gamble for 24/7, correct?

Asking a selfie pict is useless too because image can be photoshopped to make it looks legit, nowadays technology is really insane.

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If the casino is as strict as you mentioned, I'm a crypto gambler who will move to another less strict casino because they don't want to do as much verification. Maybe they could send in their ID documents, but they'll avoid it if it's more than that.And casinos also know that being too strict in asking for verification could affect their revenue because the number of members playing will decrease a lot. '

Casinos have given a chance to their members who want to limit their gambling so that members can immediately use it. But I think only a few use that feature because those who play gambling in casinos want to have fun playing gambling.

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Quote from: Solosanz on May 17, 2023, 03:21:03 AM

Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process.
2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today.
3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing.

1. Do you think licensed casino nowadays aren't asking selfie picture as a KYC verification? it's more than that, they even ask driving license, your bank account, your monthly check etc. However selfie picture isn't really a valid proof, what if his parent already took it for verifying an exchange or he lie to his parent the selfie will used for a good thing?

2. and 3. Nope, casino is want to make a lot money, why they need to stop a gambler who's keep losing?

Casimos can never put interest in what will reduce their tendencies for making more money to their casino, which the points number 2 and 3 figure this features out, they can't limit the extent you can go in gambling, moderating your gambling numbers of attempts is like them restricting themselves from making more money from gambling, also license is not the only way to verify the real genuinety of a casino because the licensed ones have scammed gamblers in the past and same the ones not being licensed, all these were just regulations from government that makes no much different frombthe real state of things with gambling.

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Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

I am hoping that people who gamble can still prevent themselves from being addicted on it, there are still a lot of things that we can do to prevent addiction and those gambling websites or application can also help their customer by doing these things.

1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process.
2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today.
3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing.

With these kind of features, they might actually help or lessen the addiction of a gambler.

If the casino implement all this criteria, they'll run out of business to other casino that don't have this restrictions. Gamblers don't like to be told what to do and if you try telling them, you'll lose a customer and they make tell their friends not to use your casino anymore.

It's not the duty of the online casino to prevent underage gambling or gambling addiction. We're responsible for that and if as a parent you don't know the online activities of your kids, that's your problem and not that of the online casinos just offering a service.

I'll agree with your verification process to be implemented on all online casino that are asking for KYC verification before their customers can use their platforms. This will help reduced underage betting to some extent but don't forget casino accounts can be bought.

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Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process.
2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today.
3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing.

1. Do you think licensed casino nowadays aren't asking selfie picture as a KYC verification? it's more than that, they even ask driving license, your bank account, your monthly check etc. However selfie picture isn't really a valid proof, what if his parent already took it for verifying an exchange or he lie to his parent the selfie will used for a good thing?

2. and 3. Nope, casino is want to make a lot money, why they need to stop a gambler who's keep losing?

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Quote from: xSkylarx on May 16, 2023, 01:46:56 AM

I think ive heard some casinos that has features that was called responsible gambling on which they will monitor the activity of the gambler is he is already over betting or spending too much time on gambling on which it is really good but i forgot what casino is that and also the problem with this is that for sure only few casino will implement this because the profit that they will earning is reduced unless they really care on gamblers. Though if there are really regulations about it then it could be a good use to prevent addictions.

Not a casino nor the governments or authorities really care about an individual getting addicted and losing money in gambling because they get money from it, if they start stopping people themselves only because they are wagering too much money and also losing, they will simply be refusing to take profit and that is what a business is for, to get money.

So even if a casino implements such a feature, I'm sure it won't be continued for long since the filter will stop a lot of high rollers from gambling since I know that a lot of high rollers lose a lot of money in a day in a single casino platform.

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Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

...One has to know the risks and how to protect themselves,” she said. “...

In the end, we make our own way. We all make mistakes and we get ourselves in different troubles... we find ways to correct mistakes and successfully get out of problems, that's how we learn and gain experience. We are all addicted to something (usually more than one thing), but with experience, it can be controlled... a person must know himself, his possibilities, and his limits. We will either control it, or it will control us.

Prevention is better than cure, if many of our gamblers could take it a responsibility to always go through the policies and privacy statement of each casinos before they go further with them, risk is not only associated with the online casinos but it's what's common in almost every areas of life, when we gamble and don't win, we have the fun and take that along, then we must also know well the kind of casino platdo we are using, some can be trusted while some cannot, but yet everything falls under taking risk, if you can't risk it don't game it.

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Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

...One has to know the risks and how to protect themselves,” she said. “...

In the end, we make our own way. We all make mistakes and we get ourselves in different troubles... we find ways to correct mistakes and successfully get out of problems, that's how we learn and gain experience. We are all addicted to something (usually more than one thing), but with experience, it can be controlled... a person must know himself, his possibilities, and his limits. We will either control it, or it will control us.

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Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process.

Why should this be a more needed features to a regular gambler when everyone is attempting on going for the use of gambling platforms that requires no KYC verification process, you have to also consider tour privacy before making an opinion for someone to take assuming you don't mind such for yourself, i want to believe you've not been once into a KYC challenges before with a casino whereby they restrict your account from performing anything until you comply to their conditions.

Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today.
3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing.

NO casino would ever want to implement this, that they should limit the extent a gambler could use their service in gambling, that's not possible , even you yourself cannot encourage such if you're having a casino, you will rather prefer they are gambling in an unlimited access repeatedly as long as they have the money to do so in their casino wallet.

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Quote from: Alucard1 on May 15, 2023, 04:17:03 AM

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1. They can use more secured ways to identify the real identity of their customer, the best thing to do here, aside from valid ID is they should add "take a selfie" on identity process.
2. They can also set a time limit of playing for a player, give notification if this would be their last game anymore for today.
3. Set a notification showing how long they've been playing.

With these kind of features, they might actually help or lessen the addiction of a gambler.

for the first, I do not agree if you have to identify customers using selfies, while some gamblers want to remain anonymous without anyone knowing when gambling. we are talking about crypto casinos which most people prefer to gamble anonymously but if this feature is enabled it will take away the anonymity of crypto gambling.
secondly, it seems that casinos cannot implement this feature because casinos cannot limit the freedom of gamblers to gamble at any time and how long they will gamble and casinos only provide a place to gamble without any restrictions.

I'm not sure if this feature can help reduce gambling addicts while gambling companies want to benefit from their customers who in reality cannot implement such features.

for me the only ones who can reduce gambling addiction are those who can control themselves, not the casino.

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