Topic: Some suggestions if you want to use tables on Bitcointalk (Read 1375 times)

I've added your translation to my OP:

Language	translated by	Title
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Pakistan	Adiljutt156	کچھ تجاویز اگر آپ بٹ کوائن ٹاک پر ٹیبل استعم

Hi @1miau  !

I am a member of The Alliance of Bitcointalk Translators (AOBT) team.

I have translated your topic (Some suggestions if you want to use tables on Bitcointalk[Guide]  into my local board's Urdu language and my translation has already been approved by Gazetabitcoin. Please add it in OP list.

Here is my translation link: کچھ تجاویز اگر آپ بٹ کوائن ٹاک پر ٹیبل استعم

Thanks.

You can also use BBcode [nobsp] for a non-breaking space to avoid text in columns being broken up in multiple lines.

Sure, Unicode U+2800 likely works too but it's kind of a hack as this is the Braille Space character. Pedantic users should probably opt for the correct Unicode character for a non-breaking space which is U+00A0, but I haven't tried it and so far can't confirm it's rendered properly by SMF code used for this forum.

Thanks for the correction, sir. I have already corrected my mistake and am quite sure that many other members of my local board don’t understand anything concerning pyramid quotes. I will like to use your suggestion to request the translation of the topic about pyramid quotes to my local board.

Hello, dear Egii Nna 

Your translation got approved, I've added it to my list:

Language	translated by	Title
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Nigeria (Naija)	Egii Nna	Another suggestion if you wan use table for bitcointalk

Many thanks for providing a translation about my topic.
Tables are always tricky to understand but formatted correcly, tables are very helpful to present content and data. 

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If possible, maybe you can still edit your post here to remove your pyramid quote.
And maybe the topic about pyramid quotes is also an interesting one for translation to your local board. 

I want to use this medium to inform you that translation is ready at my local board. The links will be shared below.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63430897

Hi @1miau I will like to translate this awesome topic to my local board (Naija local board), pidgin, if permitted, I will be extremely happy.

Thanks for your translation and sorry for my late reply, I didn't saw it until now.

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I've added a very detailed tutorial about the basics how to create tables written by so98nn:


In general, it helps to understand the BBCode how tables are working, good read.  

Sorry for bumping this.
I translate it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252374.new#new and want to notify 1miau

It's also a good solution and similar to our ___ version. In our version we are using ____ like he's using transparent fffff:

Good point! I've added this to my OP.  
Almost forgotten about it and I remember o_e_l_e_o had a good solution (here).
Sums up perfectly our problem.  

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But ___ is a nice way to divide the header from the rest of the table.  

("_")  

1	2	3	4	5	6
_________________	_________________	_________________	_________________	_________________	_________________
Is	it	working	properly	?	I think so.

Thank you for sharing the code. I'm sure it'll improve the quality of my posts.

Some people don't want the use of underscore ("_") char because it's not needed, of course, it can be made transparent by color code. Another way that can be applied to make the code more efficient is to use transparent char ("⠀"= U+2800) instead of space char in the longest text/sentence in the first column.
This char will be also very helpful for signature designers, where they must use the minimum number of chars possible.

Funny there is no mention of the display rendering bug in the first column of a table. I think this is a problem with either SMF, Bitcointalk, or the particular version of SMF used in bitcointalk (or some modding done by the admin).

Thing is the first column will be too thin. And, this doesn't show in the preview, only when you post.

Using ___ is a clever way to force the width. Another is to simply bypass the first column entirely by having an empty one.

many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words

many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words

many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words

vs

many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words

many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words

many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words many words

I like playing with Unicode when I have time to spare.
Here's a template that might be useful to someone:

╔	══════════	╦	══════════	╦	══════════	╦	══════════	╗
║	col 1	║	col 2	║	col 3	║	col 4	║
╠	══════════	╬	══════════	╬	══════════	╬	══════════	╣
║	xxx	║	xxx	║	xxx	║	xxx	║
╚	══════════	╩	══════════	╩	══════════	╩	══════════	╝

Thank you for the given format, that is what I would like to use if I want to add small notes beside images. This time, I saved your format and link to that post into my notebook, for later reference and for use.

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It is not the post I mentioned but the given format results in same display. Thank you.

I'm not sure but it could be this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17876458

I made a template to make a point and list for any post, anyone can edit with some table decoration by OP such as using |, *, + or ____,

Preview.

Your Point	___	List of point content
__________________	___	__________________
Poit A This is short summary	___	Lorem ipsum Lorem ipsum dolor Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet
Point B This is short summary	___	Lorem ipsum Lorem ipsum dolor Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet
Point C This is short summary	___	Lorem ipsum Lorem ipsum dolor Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet
Poin D This is short summary	___	Lorem ipsum Lorem ipsum dolor Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet

Here the code:

I don't know if it's possible for BBCode. You can do such kind of formatting and try to change the numbers ( I don't know what they mean  )


but it isn't really a satisfactory solution.  

Maybe you can ask roslinpl, he did some great tutorials about BBCode: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/learn-bbcode-lessons-tutorials-tutorial-videos-1727100

Edit: there seems to be a solution (https://help.forumotion.com/t71690-background-for-bbcode-tables) but I tried and it didn't work. Maybe some BBCode designers can help out.  

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I hope I understand you correctly, like that:

Picture	Words
________________________________________	________________________________________
	thermos is keeping your tea safe and warm thermos is keeping your tea safe and warm thermos is keeping your tea safe and warm thermos is keeping your tea safe and warm thermos is keeping your tea safe and warm thermos is keeping your tea safe and warm

?  
Don't know if that's what you need.  

I'm also searching sometimes, maybe you still know the topic and some key words posted in that topic to use the search button.  

For a long time ago, I read a post of one user whom guided to split table into two columns, one for image (on the left, for example), and another one for notes of that image (on the right). Unfortunately, I forgot to save that format. I think that one is cool because it saves more space in post and in page of topic. Sometimes, we don't need a long paraphrase to describe one image, so that format makes sense.

If you can, please help me to do that, 1miau.

I'm not sure about BBCode but in Markdown you can make tables like:


And that fills in the table with a dark grey background for the headers and a light grey background for everything else. You could add more dashes to it but that is optional. I'm not a big fan of typing a bunch of underscores either, so I just play it safe and use the tr td notation here.

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Same here, the second one has also the disadvantage that several words per line will be splitted into two lines (if more than 2 words are used in the content and the line is longer than the headline):

xxxxx xxxxxxxx	|	xxx xxxxxxxx	|	xxxxxxxx xxxx	|
xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx	|	xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx	|	xxxxx   xxxxxxxxxxx	|

This layout is used here, for example: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/overview-of-bitcointalk-signature-ad-campaigns-last-update-01-jan-23-615953

So, it's still possible that the layout is looking good, but it's important which content should be posted there. After all, I prefer the first solution, too  

I tried your given formats, and personally I like the first table template, rather than the second one with
The second one looks a bit messy when I adding contents and editing. Maybe it is my personal favorite or because I am not familiar with that format.

That wouldn't make a difference to use more spaces:

abcdefghijk	abcdefghijk
abcdef ghijklmnop	abcdef ghijklmnop

BBCode is still splitting the text in a new row because spaces result in a new line, whenever they are used. I don't know if there's a way to prevent it.

If you have enough spaces then the table won't be look like what you wanted or the column doesn't have space to separate the each colum in your table exactly like the table you have used as an example which in my opinion it doesn't look neatly created. We don't have choice though but to use more spaces to separate the columns so that the columns won't almost be in the same place as the other one.

Well said, table formatting is not easy at all.

I tried a version where I used spaces instead of _ but it didn't work because if I use more than 2 words in a column, the table is splitting it in a new row, something like that:

abcdefghijk	abcdefghijk
abcdef ghijklmnop	abcdef ghijklmnop

Doesn't work and I needed quite a time to fix it using a bunch of ____
Sometimes it helps to quote existing tables and have a look how other people are formatting them.  

You were very patient making this guide.

I tried to use table in some of my posts, and I was able to use in a few of them.
But it takes too long to get it perfectly done, because any small problem will break the table completely.

Table creating should be much easier, i hope they make it better in the new forum software. I havent tried the beta so far

I got the idea, table is able to display content to wide direction, so it will utilize wide side rather than bottom side which is less effective and less efficient.

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Tables are always useful if you want to share content in lists and improve the way how it is displayed. For each row you can list the related information instead of posting each information in a new line. That will help to keep your post short and clear instead of a long list.

Comparison:


Normal Formatting style:

Cryptocurrency: Bitcoin
Ticker: BTC
Price: $10,900
Circulating supply: 17,700,000 BTC
Marketcap: $193,000,000,000
Mineable?: yes

Cryptocurrency: Ethereum
Ticker: ETH
Price: $310
Circulating supply: 106,600,000 ETH
Marketcap: $33,000,000,000
Mineable?: yes

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Table:

Cryptocurrency	Ticker	Price (in $)	Circulating supply	Marketcap (in $)	Mineable?
_________________	__________	____________	___________________	____________________	_____________
Bitcoin	BTC	10,900	17,700,000 BTC	193,000,000,000	yes
Ethereum	ETH	310	106,600,000 ETH	33,000,000,000	yes

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Some good table layouts


Formatting tables can be a little bit tricky sometimes, here are some of my preferred layouts to keep the table clear and easy to read:

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1. Using ___ for your table layout

xxx	xxx	xxx	xxx	xxx	xxx
_________________	_________________	_________________	_________________	_________________	_________________
xxx	xxx	xxx	xxx	xxx	xxx

The _____ will guarantee that your table has enough space between columns. If you want to have more / less space between your columns just add / delete a few _


If you don't add them your table will look like that:  

Cryptocurrency	Ticker	Price (in $)	Circulating supply	Marketcap (in $)	mineable?
Bitcoin	BTC	10,900	17,700,000 BTC	193,000,000,000	yes
Ethereum	ETH	310	106,600,000 ETH	33,000,000,000	yes

(not very nice in my opinion)


You can add as much other columns to the table by just adding 1x

to the header of the table and
to the content of the table. And don't forget to add
if you've added a new column.

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2. Using | for your table layout


You can also use | for your table layout:

xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|
xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|

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3. Using ___ and | for your table layout


Of course, you can also use both:

xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|
_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|	_________________	|
xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|	xxx	|

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It's possible to combine different variants how you like it.
If you have other suggestions you can post it here and I'll create a little collection of useful table formatting styles.

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Some additional information:


If you want to include pictures in your table, you need to leave the first table row blank if you don't use ___ or similar because if you don't add it or don't leave the first table row blank, your image won't be sized correctly. Same applies also for text of course. More information here and here.


And if you want to read more about tables (basics explained in detail) , you can have a look here: Tutorial - How to create Table in the BitcoinTalk Forum.

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Translations:

Language	translated by	Title
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Română (Romanian)	GazetaBitcoin	Câteva sugestii, în caz că doriți să folosiți tabele pe forumul BitcoinTalk
Nigeria (Naija)	Egii Nna	Another suggestion if you wan use table for bitcointalk
India	M47AK16	अगर आप बिटकॉइनटॉक पर टेबल का उपयोग करना चाह&#
Español (Spanish)	Porifirii	Algunas sugerencias si quieres usar tablas en Bitcointalk
Deutsch (German)	1miau	Tipps / Vorlagen, wenn ihr Tabellen verwenden wollt
Pakistan	Adiljutt156	کچھ تجاویز اگر آپ بٹ کوائن ٹاک پر ٹیبل استعم
Pilipinas	Peanutswar	Mga maaring gawin sa pag gamit ng table sa Bitcointalk
Polski	cygan	Kilka porad, jeśli chcesz używać tabeli na Bitcointalk

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