[TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on May 11, 2018, 07:55:56 PM

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Hello @tbct_mt2. I have come across your awesome topic, and I find out that the topic is very educational. I will like to request your consent to translate this educational topic to my local board, the Naija local board (pidgin).

For some reasons. For instance, many newbies that come to the forum find it hard to understand how annoying pyramid quoting is; if they know they will not try to do it, some members even find it hard to read such quotes, so if you don’t mind, I would like to have a quick and suitable response for you so that I can try my possible best to translate the topics to my local board for more understanding.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 17, 2020, 08:25:46 AM

However, I am glad that some users still listened to my advice and started using quote in a completely different way, so their posts look much better and clearer.

Use quote is not a different task. The problem can be not yet know how to quote properly or being too lazy to quote it properly (spammers don't care about what they write so they don't care about how to quote).

For real members, they should read and practice with their posts (if they quote, quote properly).

I know a video from Steamtyme on the Post formatting. Video link on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NHfaViknzM&feature=youtu.be

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Although this thread is made for newbies, I think it can come in handy for some older members as well.

Thank you and I am happy to know you feel about it like that.

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I think it's worth bumping this topic because some users for some reason known only to them use the quote option in a very unnecessary and inappropriate way. I have even reported some such posts, especially those that contain large images - but different moderators have different views on this - so the results of such reports are mostly unhandled.

I recently deleted one such post in my self-moderated thread which resulted in the user in question accusing me of deleting the posts because I didn’t like his opinion - but that of course had nothing to do with it. However, I am glad that some users still listened to my advice and started using quote in a completely different way, so their posts look much better and clearer.

Although this thread is made for newbies, I think it can come in handy for some older members as well.

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Few of my posts that avoided pyramid:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51558513
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52023069
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52290368

Previously I was not aware and might have done some posts with such clumsy looks. But, after me going through your post have implemented and conscious of avoiding the mistake. I request you to pleas have a look and suggest if I am still doing some mistake. I would be thankful to you. Now that the thread poped up again just thanking you.

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Reminder:
Spending a couple of seconds to edit your posts, after clicking on Quote button, to choose which part you will use for your diccussion, rest parts should be deleted. It takes just a few seconds, less than half of a minute to finish on computers.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 31, 2019, 08:40:58 PM

there is also a good way to quote which you want to quote by only quoting the small part/some part of the content of the reply you wanted to quote then answer.
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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on June 03, 2019, 09:47:02 PM

You actually can take your second chance with temporary ban and signature ban for one or two years.

(Your Post or Reply Here)

It is the best way to avoid pyramid quotes. You made a point here, @nakamura12.
Good posters never or rarely do pyramid quotes. I probably do it when I am on moblie devices and hardly to edit texts to avoid pyramid quotes, but I mostly come back to my posts to edit them later, when I use computers.
Usercript is helpful too

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on May 11, 2018, 07:55:56 PM

1. User Script: Automatically remove nested quotes (EcuaMobi)

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In addition to op's thread on tips to avoid pyramid quoting. These three tips made by the op should be followed to avoid pyramid quoting and there is also a good way to quote which you want to quote by only quoting the small part/some part of the content of the reply you wanted to quote then answer. There's also a good tip/way to avoid pyramid quoting is by not quoting the whole thread reply and only quote the important part of the thread reply you want to quote. Refer below:

Ex. Whole/Complete post/thread reply to quote:
From this quote:

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on June 03, 2019, 09:47:02 PM

You actually can take your second chance with temporary ban and signature ban for one or two years. You can get it or not, depends on your past activities (things presented below are not mine, I describe perspectives of global mods that I read during the banwave in many appeals). There are some factors:
- Total posts that you plagiarised.
- Percentage of plagiarised posts / your total posts (more than half - 50% - will wipe out your second chance, surely)
- Time points of your plagiarism (before or after the rule on plagiarism applied in the forum)
- Your past contributions.

Quote from: btcrevo on June 03, 2019, 08:59:59 PM

4 years ago - 4 years of genuine, positive contributions I've made to this community - and I'm banned off of this?

Everyone whom got permanent ban will feel happy with a reduced sentence for sure. However, whenever you are back from vacation, you can make the appeal better (that somehow increase your chance) by collecting and presenting posts or threads that you thought are most constructives from your past (before your ban day).

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I'd be happy with a temporary ban - those who are close to me know that I'm on vacation right now anyways - but a permanent ban disregarding what I've done this community for two damn lines 4 years ago is infuriating.

I scanned your post history, that looks good (at least not a pure shit poster), so I think you might have chance, but it is not my position to say anything about this.
There is even a user (maybe more, but I know only one) that even come back without signature ban.

To this quote: I only quote a sentence which I would like to talk about but if you compare this to the op's way I think that op's is better than what I share on how I quote.

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on June 03, 2019, 09:47:02 PM

You actually can take your second chance with temporary ban and signature ban for one or two years.

(Your Post or Reply Here)

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Editing your quotes will cost a few seconds, so please do editing quotes before you start composing and discussing. It will help save more space each page in thread you discuss, help you and other readers more easily to follow idea flows, stay in context of discussions, and of course, make you a better poster.
So, please read, and apply my tips to avoid pyramid quotes. It is easy and does not cost so much time.

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Today, I have another example for you, that most of us overuse by quoting OPs. OPs of projects mostly contain lots of images attached. Therefore, quoting whole OPs will congest the whole threads, and if everyone does it, the threads will become trashy as well as require more time to load whole pages.

For example:
Original OP-quoted post
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51416874
I will do different like this:

Quote from: Bitcoincasinocom on May 23, 2019, 05:35:02 PM

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Then, typing what I want to point out from the OP.

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Quote from: Sharon121212 on May 29, 2019, 01:40:47 AM

<...> I know this is not formally against the rule and can't be reported to the moderator except the follow write up is unwanted or spam. <...>

Here’s an extract of the rules that explicitly mentions pyramid quotes (in the examples section):

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

<…>1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e] <…>

Examples:
1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads. <…>

Since pyramid quotes are examples of breaking rule number one, they may be reported and cautioned accordingly by the mods.

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Quote from: Sharon121212 on May 29, 2019, 01:40:47 AM

Lol. Some users are inconsiderate about the stress and pains caused to others by there hazard quotations appear.
I know this is not formally against the rule and can't be reported to the moderator except the follow write up is unwanted or spam.
But logically it's a good thing if users can adopt the value of doing things rightly

Ooops, maybe you missed it. It is just not a too serious rule violation that can lead to instantly permanent ban. However, being reported too many times with pyramid quotes might be a problem, like with spamming. There is no official or unofficial rule on how many times of such violations will cause temporary ban, but I think with repeatedly serious violations, temporary bans might be considered.

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Quote from: mahimonliner on May 12, 2018, 01:40:10 AM

that simple task of removing unwanted quote helps to give a better look to the thread.
Also no one has to visit doctor for their finger pain, which caused by scrolling. Wink

Lol. Some users are inconsiderate about the stress and pains caused to others by there hazard quotations appear.
I know this is not formally against the rule and can't be reported to the moderator except the follow write up is unwanted or spam.
But logically it's a good thing if users can adopt the value of doing things rightly

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Started from recent discussions on pyramid quotes and new user srcipt, I updated the OP today.
Discussion: [Feature Suggest] Let disable multi quoting
User script:

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on May 11, 2018, 07:55:56 PM

Helpful User Scripts to remove pyramid quotes:

1. User Script: Automatically remove nested quotes (EcuaMobi)

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Quote from: Tamilson on March 06, 2019, 07:37:00 AM

Quote from: poptok1 on March 06, 2019, 04:28:07 AM

One question though, what is the point of your thread?
Ridicule of pyramid makers only or maybe there are mods who monitor your topic and take action?

The fact that OP is interesting but updating the thread posting pyramid quoting isn't necessary anymore. Don't get me wrong, I honestly appreciate the OP.

I feel reporting it would be enough than keeping it in a thread because chances of getting deleted is very less so just report those over quoted posts when you find it as spam.

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Quote from: poptok1 on March 06, 2019, 04:28:07 AM

One question though, what is the point of your thread?
Ridicule of pyramid makers only or maybe there are mods who monitor your topic and take action?

The fact that OP is interesting but updating the thread posting pyramid quoting isn't necessary anymore. Don't get me wrong, I honestly appreciate the OP.

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on March 06, 2019, 04:02:55 AM

How annoying and boring it is?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50035949
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Annoyance is over 9000, that's for sure.
Quite a lot of those lately, almost nobody cares about the no pyramid rule any more. Glad to see that you're not one of them.
One question though, what is the point of your thread?
Ridicule of pyramid makers only or maybe there are mods who monitor your topic and take action?
Would be nice to see at least some warnings being issued, to those who break in fact the very first rule... Roll Eyes

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How annoying and boring it is?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50035949
It made by a Hero.
This one is a pyramid quote, below which there is one line post.
How do you think to improve your next posts, especially spending a little time to edit your quote?

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There are two pyramid quotes I found today.
This one published by a Hero member.
There is link to the newest found pyramid quote:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49977851

And, that one published by a user at Member rank.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49872527

Found another one minutes ago. Legendary's pyramid quote
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49999291

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Fortunately, today I found other pyramid quotes, that published by Legendary, and Hero members.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49977851 (Hero)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50007779 (Legendary)
Let's take a look back at all pyramid quotes I collected, and see how annoying they are.
If you really feel that those pyramid quotes are annoying for your experience in the forum, let's spend a couple of seconds to do something (deleting unncessary, unsued stuffs) and avoid pyramid quotes.
As you can see my guide in the OP, it is very simple and does not require too much time to edit your threads.

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Today, I found another pyramid quote for you.
Let's spend a couple of seconds to take a look at the following pyramid quote
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48436784

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