Topic: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? - page 4. (Read 5955 times)

This forum is piling up with useless dramas of probable ponzi operators.

I must say what Cryptodevil is doing right now should have been done from 2014 when thousands of ponzies came to birth one after another.
Now they are just getting butt burned because you are helping in clearing the junk.

Since you say you have the right to participate and promote a ponzi then one responsible member also has the right to tag you appropriately so that any newbies does not listen to you at one go.

I will suggest Cryptodevil to keep up with this cleaning work and at one point of time we will be able to reclaim the past glory of the forum.

To all ponzi operators: Better go away and start promoting on special ponzi forums.

Bingo!!!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13665221

User is doing a great job

Keep up the good work Cryptodevil

If you don't recognize the world of western business for what it is it is fine by me. I didn't say it was to prove any good. You misread again.

you say:


I do give a shit, that is why I chose certain users to be ripped off and others not.


But I gave you a head start. I quoted the warnings and say that I would have put my coins in if they were not busy elsewhere atm. So go ahead tag me. Too bad I only saw one of your friends that I could quote.

Demonstrating the above behaviour proves you are untrustworthy, therefore you will be marked as such.

Whining about how the world isn't fair doesn't make your scumbaggery any less repugnant.

Well it is true it is ripping off people.

Just like when I was working as a designer in construction completely legal with permits and taxes and building codes, we still would charge 5 to 10K for a preliminary design, which is completely conform the market prices, but a rip off in my eyes. Most call that business and do not even consider it being ripping off people because well you got to earn a living right?

Just like when I was a reseller of imported stuff, again with permits and taxes all in order, I could easily triple or more on the prices when selling them below the average retail prices, it is a rip off in my eyes while most call that business which again most do not even consider it being ripping off people because well you got to earn a living right?

So yeah now I'm playing in HYIPs and Ponzi's in my spare time. It is ripping off people again. But at least now I am ripping off people that want the easy life and get rich without putting the work into it instead of people that put their hard worked cash into the "legal business" and paying way overpriced stuff.

And don't come with the argument that at least the legal businesses provided a product or a service as a lot of MLM's and Ponzi's had products that they needed to sell as well as "services". A Ponzi could collect data and addresses whenever they would sell key-rings for 0.005 and provide a product that stands for the coins people put in.


So yeah I'm ripping off people again, life will never change. Where is the morality in that? I recognize I am ripping off people in said schemes, but I also do recognize I am ripping off people under the status off "legal business". The only solution would be becoming a low-wage wage-slave and let your employer do the nasty stuff or becoming completely self sufficient and have no business or trades in this (mainly western) world.

Edit to say:


I am just as free to express whatever I want as you are to rain with neg trust. Luckily we all are.

no


dont mix up yourself with me.


I am taken serious, maybe not by you but this doesnt matter,


You do your "discussion" like you do the whole time, ill do my actions. fair enough

Uhuh, sure. Quick! Load up one of your other socks so you can post a supportive and equally-chock-full-of-fallacy post for yourself, I mean 'completely different user' of course!

cryptodevil

This user is currently ignored.

Buh-bye, dimwit. While you're stood still trying to figure out how to open the door to perform a truly epic rage-quit-slam on your way out, how about you actually read the utterly absurd statement you wrote:

I believe it is you who is supposed to propose a reasoned counter to my 'Point 3' assertion, something you have failed to do. Simply typing the words, "You are wrong" doesn't actually do anything to support your position unless you back it up with the necessary words describing why I am wrong. Those words needing to not consist of logical fallacy, of course.

In posting your support for a ponzi in a ponzi-scam thread, you are hoping for what, exactly? Could it possibly be that you wish to encourage others to participate so that they send their money in after you and that you will receive a share of their deposit from the scammers? Yes, that is exactly what it is. Eventually the scam *will* collapse because of math, leaving a number of people having lost their money.

You don't want to be the one who doesn't get paid, fact.
You post in ponzi threads to hopefully make sure other users are the ones who don't get paid, fact.
Your lack of shit-giving for other users losing their money in order for you to get paid is undeniable proof of the scumbag you are, fact.

You are wrong and have no counter argument apart from the incorrect 'Ponzis scam and you're stealing from people'. You're a little child who has learnt a few big words to cover that fact. I'm done with feeding your ego anymore.

Awwww, more tone complaint? Because that's always a reasonable counterpoint, isn't it? "I haven't got an objective argument against your assertion so I will complain that I don't like the way you said it and pretend that equates to a reasoned counter."

I didn't dismiss them out of hand, I dismissed them for being the fallacious bollocks they are. As I said, though, if you're too dumb to be able to see the fallacies within your own rambling diatribe, I'm not going waste energy on trying to raise your IQ.

No, you just came across as an egotistical, arrogant prick who just dismissed the reasoned arguments that you requested in your post above out of hand. I gave you a second chance to see if you were genuinely capable of countering my arguments and you just confirmed what I already thought.

Seriously, you totally deserve that negative trust. Ponzis are designed to con people into investing their life savings, which will be stolen from them forever! You're lucky you're not going to hell... You just got a warning from a DT member. Not to mention, running a ponzi or promoting a ponzi is technically illegal, and if you do this in the physical world(i.e. not bitcoin space) on a large scale you will probably get caught and get thrown into jail...

I think the judgement is totally fair, and seriously, he deserves more

I just did refute it, moron. If you're not smart enough to understand the difference between objectively reasoned argument and logical fallacies I don't have the time, nor the inclination, to teach you.

No, I would like you show the same level of courtesy I made to you and provide reasoned arguments to refute my points or concede.

It's too simple.You are wasting your time with that.

1. Tone complaint. False equivalence.
2. False equivalence
3. Red herring. False equivalence.

Quick enough for you?

Refute any of it if you can

So, no, you chose to go with more rambling nonsense instead of a reasoned counter-argument.

Do you even logic?

Oh look it's MR Big Red Letters with the little Police Shield...

1. The issue is that people are leaving negative feedback for people posting their experience on Ponzi sites and if their experience is positive then they get a negative trust rating. The Ponzi sites are in the gambling section, there is a big warning saying you're an idiot if you invest money but self appointed forum members are singling out other members for posting their positive experience. The heavy handed arrogance of the self appointed forum police laying down the negative feedback is what really grates. As for you Cryptodevil you been going in the Coin Generator thread since almost the beginning screaming 'Scam' in your big attention grabbing font - a gambling site isn't a scam unless the owner decides to run with all the invested money.

2. Just like ALL forms of gambling both traditional, stock market, currency trading and Ponzi the profit you seek is gained from other losses - the bookmakers and casinos don't give you their money they give you the money that others have lost. The only time money is stolen in a Ponzi is when the owner decides to run with all money invested and that makes the owner a scammer not anyone who gambled that they would make money. If a Ponzi legitimately fails due to lack of new investors than the people who got in first and gambled that the site would last long enough to recoup their investment win the game. If a casino goes bust and you are holding their chips it doesn't make everyone who made money in the casino a scammer who has stolen from you. If the casino owner decides to run with the money they are the scammer. The problem is that some ponzis are purely designed to steal money from investors, while others are made to make some cash and they die out rather than be shut down mid round by the owner. If the owner decides to skim off enough money to cover their operation costs and pay them for their time this the House Edge that is their right and fair play to them - just like traditional gambling owners - http://casinogambling.about.com/od/oddsandends/a/houseedge.htm. So just to repeat because I know you find this bit hard to understand Users who make a profit from Ponzis aren't stealing from other users, they have just won the gamble, users who make a lost have just lost the gamble. This does not make it a scam or stealing. Users are not in a position to steal from each other only the site owner has that power.

3. This is wrong. If the site owner decides to scam and continues to run the Ponzi or a new one to sucker new investors and you don't raise a scam accusation thread and constantly shout scam then that is proof that you don't give a shit about other users being ripped off - which is what I did when Dualbitcoin stole from almost everyone and was hounded off the forum after stealing about $100 from people (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13936570). You'll see in that thread the supportive actions of James.Lent who is another member of your self appointed forum police. Participation in a Ponzi thread does not make you untrustworthy as you are simply gambling on whether you are going to win or not, making positive posts about your experience (if it is positive) isn't being a shill or trying to lure other people into the scheme and isn't dishonest - it's more akin to marketing to try to keep the game paying out for as many people as possible not just yourself, because if you've had a positive experience you are more likely to reinvest your profits just like with all gambling. It is no difference to your mate who bets on the horses or who likes casinos telling about the massive win he had at the weekend.

If you think this is undeniable proof of not giving a shit and untrustworthy behaviour then I fully expect you and the rest of the Ponzi police to be going round to all the threads which contain gambling in all forms including trading, and everyone who's signature contains a gambling site signature campaign advert and negatively feedback on every single person promoting those schemes too otherwise you are just as culpable as me, except I'm not so arrogant to assume the role you have given yourself as the last bastion to protect people from gambling even though that is the choice they have made themselves.

I look forward to you conceding as point 3 has been dismantled with reasoned argument, however I fully expect more big red font high handedness and circle jerking.