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Topic: Someone just paid 94.35425882 BTC in transaction fee (Read 6768 times)

full member
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Hey,

have check the details and contact the user.
The BTC where send to MtGox. So the high fee is on MtGox side and they made the fault Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
I started it with my comment, so an explanation is due: I don't think I'm touchy because of scams, but because I feel people - even nice people - often manage to convince themselves how world is full of selfish assholes who would never return lost or stolen property to the original owner. This assumption makes even nice folks act not-so-nicely, in defense from an erroneous image of reality.
Things are better than that, but will keep getting worse if we assume the worst. I am sure the majority of people reading this would return the money sent to them by mistake like this.
There's a saying that an optimist is a happy idiot, and a pessimist a sad idiot...
Most people are by default evil and won't do something good without some ulterior motive. On the other hand, most people have motives: staying out of jail, better reputation, etc.
The approach I usually try to use is to assume the best of people, but expect the worst.

That being said, this forum is particularly full of trolls. While I can't speculate on readers, realistically I think the majority of people who might reply to this post would not return the fee.
Says the person who used the Eligius pool to destroy an alt coin coz he wanted to ...

Remember: Always assume the best... but expect the worst!
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I started it with my comment, so an explanation is due: I don't think I'm touchy because of scams, but because I feel people - even nice people - often manage to convince themselves how world is full of selfish assholes who would never return lost or stolen property to the original owner. This assumption makes even nice folks act not-so-nicely, in defense from an erroneous image of reality.
Things are better than that, but will keep getting worse if we assume the worst. I am sure the majority of people reading this would return the money sent to them by mistake like this.
There's a saying that an optimist is a happy idiot, and a pessimist a sad idiot...
Most people are by default evil and won't do something good without some ulterior motive. On the other hand, most people have motives: staying out of jail, better reputation, etc.
The approach I usually try to use is to assume the best of people, but expect the worst.

That being said, this forum is particularly full of trolls. While I can't speculate on readers, realistically I think the majority of people who might reply to this post would not return the fee.
Says the person who used the Eligius pool to destroy an alt coin coz he wanted to ...
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1186
I started it with my comment, so an explanation is due: I don't think I'm touchy because of scams, but because I feel people - even nice people - often manage to convince themselves how world is full of selfish assholes who would never return lost or stolen property to the original owner. This assumption makes even nice folks act not-so-nicely, in defense from an erroneous image of reality.
Things are better than that, but will keep getting worse if we assume the worst. I am sure the majority of people reading this would return the money sent to them by mistake like this.
There's a saying that an optimist is a happy idiot, and a pessimist a sad idiot...
Most people are by default evil and won't do something good without some ulterior motive. On the other hand, most people have motives: staying out of jail, better reputation, etc.
The approach I usually try to use is to assume the best of people, but expect the worst.

That being said, this forum is particularly full of trolls. While I can't speculate on readers, realistically I think the majority of people who might reply to this post would not return the fee.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 501
There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
If you are curious as to what percent of users here claim they would have returned the coins:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/would-you-return-found-money-to-the-proven-original-owner-who-lost-it-151072
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
What confuses me is how people can presumably-accidentally waste this much money, and apparently never even notice so they can try to recover it.

This is purely speculation but if someone with a high rep on this forum had a brainfart like I did doing a raw tx then it is possible that they might forgo the chance to recover it in order not to be identified as having made such a mistake in the first place (it did cross my mind for at least a second or two before I made my mistake public).
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 501
There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
Eleuthria has been an upstanding and respectable member of the bitcoin community for as long as I can remember, and I am touched he gave back the transaction fees he received by mistake in that block that was mined.

OK, don't let us speculate. What did you mean by:
Ahahaha you so funny  Cheesy
It was simply low level humour postulating on what the pool would do with the money which obviously you did not find funny.

I understand people are very touchy with respect to transactions on this forum given the number of scams constantly going on, but lumping me with them given my history with bitcoin and free software when I'm not running any business venture and have only ever delivered code in response to donations is a bit harsh.

On the other hand, the mere presence of this forum thread may well change the pool's response to this transaction error.
I started it with my comment, so an explanation is due: I don't think I'm touchy because of scams, but because I feel people - even nice people - often manage to convince themselves how world is full of selfish assholes who would never return lost or stolen property to the original owner. This assumption makes even nice folks act not-so-nicely, in defense from an erroneous image of reality.
Things are better than that, but will keep getting worse if we assume the worst. I am sure the majority of people reading this would return the money sent to them by mistake like this.

 
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
Eleuthria has been an upstanding and respectable member of the bitcoin community for as long as I can remember, and I am touched he gave back the transaction fees he received by mistake in that block that was mined.

OK, don't let us speculate. What did you mean by:
Ahahaha you so funny  Cheesy
It was simply low level humour postulating on what the pool would do with the money which obviously you did not find funny.

I understand people are very touchy with respect to transactions on this forum given the number of scams constantly going on, but lumping me with them given my history with bitcoin and free software when I'm not running any business venture and have only ever delivered code in response to donations is a bit harsh.

On the other hand, the mere presence of this forum thread may well change the pool's response to this transaction error.

Thank you!
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
Eleuthria has been an upstanding and respectable member of the bitcoin community for as long as I can remember, and I am touched he gave back the transaction fees he received by mistake in that block that was mined.

OK, don't let us speculate. What did you mean by:
Ahahaha you so funny  Cheesy
It was simply low level humour postulating on what the pool would do with the money which obviously you did not find funny.

I understand people are very touchy with respect to transactions on this forum given the number of scams constantly going on, but lumping me with them given my history with bitcoin and free software when I'm not running any business venture and have only ever delivered code in response to donations is a bit harsh.

On the other hand, the mere presence of this forum thread may well change the pool's response to this transaction error.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1186
What confuses me is how people can presumably-accidentally waste this much money, and apparently never even notice so they can try to recover it.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
Earlier this year, I mistakenly paid 90+ coins in transaction fee when playing with createrawtransaction. Fortunately that time I was playing with terracoind. The owner of the 90+ bitcoins might be a victim of createrawtransaction, too.

I suspect those raw transactions will be a trap for many many more Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 324
Merit: 260
Earlier this year, I mistakenly paid 90+ coins in transaction fee when playing with createrawtransaction. Fortunately that time I was playing with terracoind. The owner of the 90+ bitcoins might be a victim of createrawtransaction, too.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
wizkid, are you going to distribute this large fee once you get the code working, or attempt to return it to the owner, or keep it as part of the pool's funding?
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
Eleuthria has been an upstanding and respectable member of the bitcoin community for as long as I can remember, and I am touched he gave back the transaction fees he received by mistake in that block that was mined.
OK, don't let us speculate. What did you mean by:
Ahahaha you so funny  Cheesy
Stop looking for things that aren't there.

How can I be looking for things which aren't there if I'm asking him to explain us what he meant? Huh
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
Eleuthria has been an upstanding and respectable member of the bitcoin community for as long as I can remember, and I am touched he gave back the transaction fees he received by mistake in that block that was mined.
OK, don't let us speculate. What did you mean by:
Ahahaha you so funny  Cheesy
Stop looking for things that aren't there.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
Eleuthria has been an upstanding and respectable member of the bitcoin community for as long as I can remember, and I am touched he gave back the transaction fees he received by mistake in that block that was mined.

OK, don't let us speculate. What did you mean by:
Ahahaha you so funny  Cheesy
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
Eleuthria has been an upstanding and respectable member of the bitcoin community for as long as I can remember, and I am touched he gave back the transaction fees he received by mistake in that block that was mined.
DrG
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1035
I read that as ckolivas believing that eleuthria's hope of an attempt to return the mistake as being laughably unlikely, without any specific statement of whether he would keep or return himself...

2nd this.  Quit making wild assumptions.

Wild assumptions just like the one Marrs and you made or the one I made?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

Not taking sides here.  Just noting that once eleuthria got a similarly insane transaction fee and he did in fact refund the fee to the sender.

If you want to read animosity into what was said it wouldn't be hard though given the CGMiner/BFGMiner split.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
I read that as ckolivas believing that eleuthria's hope of an attempt to return the mistake as being laughably unlikely, without any specific statement of whether he would keep or return himself...

2nd this.  Quit making wild assumptions.

Wild assumptions just like the one Marrs and you made or the one I made?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
hero member
Activity: 642
Merit: 500
I read that as ckolivas believing that eleuthria's hope of an attempt to return the mistake as being laughably unlikely, without any specific statement of whether he would keep or return himself...

2nd this.  Quit making wild assumptions.
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