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Quote from: Oshosondy on November 29, 2023, 07:22:57 AM

Betting on war? How can bookies be providing service for their customers to be betting on war. Betting on who to win election, who to be the next miss world and something entertaining is better, but betting on war is just not appropriate and not entertaining at all. But people are people, they like to be full of something surprising.

It's photoshop, but even in the future, I don't think that sports bookies are going to list this kind of bets in their platform because they know that whole gaming industry will come after them. And for the photoshop, yeah, maybe it was just a joke or something, but it's up to the person who's going to read it, for sure there will be a lot of us here going to be hurt with this kind of jokes.

Or maybe some who will just take it as it is because they know that this is fake and we should take it seriously.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 29, 2023, 07:14:29 AM

I understand that this is fake and was made for a joke. But some people dont know what jokes should be ended or are inappropriate... However, since some casinos have "special" section in sports betting (why this is in sports betting anyway?), and allow to place bets on election outcome, or on Oscar winner, or on music event like Eurovision, I would not be much surprised that in 5 or 10 years we would really have such absurd betting options. And most important what scares me, that casinos will hide behind "there is a demand on such betting" and there really be people who will find this demanding.

I don't bet and will discourage people from betting between two countries about war, it's very insensitive, and war is something you don't include betting on because human lives are at stake here, and I don't think any casinos will include this bet, they could lose their license and they will receive massive criticism for being insensitive, they can think of any outrageous kind of bets but never bets about lives especially on war where the victims are innocent children and elders

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 30, 2023, 03:09:59 AM

If I'm not mistaken previously there was a casino that provided bets on the pandemic how many would die and so on, the good thing was it was a new gambling site so it didn't get enough attention and now the gambling site has died without leaving a trace and is actually betting on tragedy humanity is unreasonable, and casinos should never provide that even if there is a request, and if there is a casino that does that, it is better to leave the casino or not bet at all because taking advantage of human tragedies such as war is very inhumane.

That's really a ridiculous bet, how can a human tragedy be made into a bet just to get a win, it's like you are risking human lives for your own interests indirectly. Yes thank goodness if indeed the site has now completely disappeared, honestly I don't know if there are sites that bet on humanity during the pandemic but the main focus is that the betting option is really absurd and I have been very disgraced.

I understand that maybe casinos are smart enough to take advantage of every opportunity in various circumstances, but on the other hand such bets are really absurd, and I hope no more casinos will come up with such ridiculous betting ideas. But on the other hand it is indeed beyond our control, we as ordinary people cannot fully restrict their actions because they have a lot of money to build such casino sites even though it makes no sense, and maybe it comes back to us, as you said it's better not to participate in betting and I'm sure for people who have common sense will not follow such bets.

Even thought it was definitely terrible, it is also real that it did happen. I mean the sadness is true, there are some places that literally has "who will win Ukraine or Russia" bets, and you do not really have clear winning lines neither, like how do you know who won? That is not really a case of winning or lose, it is a different situation.

This is why it is quite important to realize that you are not going to end up with morality or ethics when you are talking about neither casinos nor gamblers who bet on these. You should just simply consider it a bit different and it could be something that will be acceptable in the sense that we just have to accept that these people and these type of situations do exists.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 29, 2023, 07:14:29 AM

I understand that this is fake and was made for a joke. But some people dont know what jokes should be ended or are inappropriate... However, since some casinos have "special" section in sports betting (why this is in sports betting anyway?), and allow to place bets on election outcome, or on Oscar winner, or on music event like Eurovision, I would not be much surprised that in 5 or 10 years we would really have such absurd betting options. And most important what scares me, that casinos will hide behind "there is a demand on such betting" and there really be people who will find this demanding.

This was a joke but I also think casino will soon start having options to bet on events like this. It's sad but the casino will always give the people what they want and if some gamblers starts requesting for betting on events like this and it doesn't go against any laws, we might start seeing them. On the dark web I think we also have platforms like this that allows individuals to bet on outcome of wars between countries, diseases outbreak and all sort of events.

Gamblers don't care about what they're gambling on, what they're after is the profits they'll make because most individual that gamble don't watch the league they gamble in or are familiar with the sports, they just gamble because they see an opportunity to make money and what to take it and that's why we have many gamblers losing because they don't understand what they're doing but only doing it for the fun or they feel they can win.

Do you really think that it could be possible? Do you really think that there would really be that demand on that? Do you really think that government would really be that allowing for that kind of betting which is really that correlated or connected to war? I dont think so. Also, just like the rest been saying that its never been that ethical on having one. So if this one had been pushed through, then what would be the betting type or options could be? Like who would be the one will win the war? How many casualties or people who die on the said period? etc. etc...

With those kind of betting lines, then you do really think that people who are in their right minds will really be that loving on making out some bet?
Even with those gambling addicts would really be having doubt on doing so yet there's still humanity on their hearts and this is something
which isnt really that ethical.

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From joke and rumors to reality the next thing is that it will be taken as a normal event and some who will be proponents will find words to justify the disturbing and irrational betting option like war. Any casino that can boldly create a space for such for gamblers to place bet predictions on it is just an enemy of the remaining peace we are all enjoying In this disturbing world. I hope and pray as a gambler this doesn't take center stage in my time, if it's to be then should be when am long gone. Hallelujah! Grin

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If this happens, I think this is a game of rich gamblers or to make it short a leaders game. Fake or not, I don't think gamblers care about anything as long as they can place a bet on something they will surely jump-in just like national elections, animal fights and other inhumane gambling activities. All of it are inappropriate and should be penalized by law.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 29, 2023, 07:14:29 AM

I understand that this is fake and was made for a joke. But some people dont know what jokes should be ended or are inappropriate... However, since some casinos have "special" section in sports betting (why this is in sports betting anyway?), and allow to place bets on election outcome, or on Oscar winner, or on music event like Eurovision, I would not be much surprised that in 5 or 10 years we would really have such absurd betting options. And most important what scares me, that casinos will hide behind "there is a demand on such betting" and there really be people who will find this demanding.

This was a joke but I also think casino will soon start having options to bet on events like this. It's sad but the casino will always give the people what they want and if some gamblers starts requesting for betting on events like this and it doesn't go against any laws, we might start seeing them. On the dark web I think we also have platforms like this that allows individuals to bet on outcome of wars between countries, diseases outbreak and all sort of events.

Gamblers don't care about what they're gambling on, what they're after is the profits they'll make because most individual that gamble don't watch the league they gamble in or are familiar with the sports, they just gamble because they see an opportunity to make money and what to take it and that's why we have many gamblers losing because they don't understand what they're doing but only doing it for the fun or they feel they can win.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 30, 2023, 03:09:59 AM

If I'm not mistaken previously there was a casino that provided bets on the pandemic how many would die and so on, the good thing was it was a new gambling site so it didn't get enough attention and now the gambling site has died without leaving a trace and is actually betting on tragedy humanity is unreasonable, and casinos should never provide that even if there is a request, and if there is a casino that does that, it is better to leave the casino or not bet at all because taking advantage of human tragedies such as war is very inhumane.

User Eternad has mentioned Futuur. They can be the one who might actually have that kind of betting option. I was not familiar with Futuur, but after checking it, it really looks that we dont have to wait long until people would make and other would participate in absurd betting. If I understood concept of Futuur platform, anyone can create any prediction and bet on it. I believe they had sort of a monitoring and specific ToS, but with platform like that, war outcome betting isnt much unreal.

I checked the futuur website and discovered that one can gamble with almost everything you can think of in as much as it can be predicted and many people are interested in it. There is even a section for predictions of events in the cryptospace. Talking about predictions of war there are predictions on Russia and Ukraine war titled: Will Russia take Kiev by force by the end of 2022?. I suspect that those who have accounts with futuur can start any prediction on any event and the gambling platform has a Curaçao Gaming license and also has a physical office there. The terms of service will be so loose or free that people would have the opportunity to gamble on events that people might see as forbidden.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 30, 2023, 03:09:59 AM

If I'm not mistaken previously there was a casino that provided bets on the pandemic how many would die and so on, the good thing was it was a new gambling site so it didn't get enough attention and now the gambling site has died without leaving a trace and is actually betting on tragedy humanity is unreasonable, and casinos should never provide that even if there is a request, and if there is a casino that does that, it is better to leave the casino or not bet at all because taking advantage of human tragedies such as war is very inhumane.

Things that should not be used as betting material in my opinion are about someone's life and I don't think it's a fun bet even though maybe some people want it, it could be that they have an abnormality in themselves so they need something different from other gambling, I I've also often heard of strange bets like that, but I've never bet on them and there's no reasonable reason for me to bet.

Moreover, why should we bet on something that we think is something that is not worth betting on, honestly I also don't expect casinos to add strange bets like that because it's not a joke that should be used as a new betting material on gambling sites, I don't even think so. would like it, especially other people, who in my opinion also don't like such extreme bets.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 30, 2023, 03:09:59 AM

If I'm not mistaken previously there was a casino that provided bets on the pandemic how many would die and so on, the good thing was it was a new gambling site so it didn't get enough attention and now the gambling site has died without leaving a trace and is actually betting on tragedy humanity is unreasonable, and casinos should never provide that even if there is a request, and if there is a casino that does that, it is better to leave the casino or not bet at all because taking advantage of human tragedies such as war is very inhumane.

That's really a ridiculous bet, how can a human tragedy be made into a bet just to get a win, it's like you are risking human lives for your own interests indirectly. Yes thank goodness if indeed the site has now completely disappeared, honestly I don't know if there are sites that bet on humanity during the pandemic but the main focus is that the betting option is really absurd and I have been very disgraced.

I understand that maybe casinos are smart enough to take advantage of every opportunity in various circumstances, but on the other hand such bets are really absurd, and I hope no more casinos will come up with such ridiculous betting ideas. But on the other hand it is indeed beyond our control, we as ordinary people cannot fully restrict their actions because they have a lot of money to build such casino sites even though it makes no sense, and maybe it comes back to us, as you said it's better not to participate in betting and I'm sure for people who have common sense will not follow such bets.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 30, 2023, 03:09:59 AM

If I'm not mistaken previously there was a casino that provided bets on the pandemic how many would die and so on, the good thing was it was a new gambling site so it didn't get enough attention and now the gambling site has died without leaving a trace and is actually betting on tragedy humanity is unreasonable, and casinos should never provide that even if there is a request, and if there is a casino that does that, it is better to leave the casino or not bet at all because taking advantage of human tragedies such as war is very inhumane.

User Eternad has mentioned Futuur. They can be the one who might actually have that kind of betting option. I was not familiar with Futuur, but after checking it, it really looks that we dont have to wait long until people would make and other would participate in absurd betting. If I understood concept of Futuur platform, anyone can create any prediction and bet on it. I believe they had sort of a monitoring and specific ToS, but with platform like that, war outcome betting isnt much unreal.

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If I'm not mistaken previously there was a casino that provided bets on the pandemic how many would die and so on, the good thing was it was a new gambling site so it didn't get enough attention and now the gambling site has died without leaving a trace and is actually betting on tragedy humanity is unreasonable, and casinos should never provide that even if there is a request, and if there is a casino that does that, it is better to leave the casino or not bet at all because taking advantage of human tragedies such as war is very inhumane.

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People can be creepy at times, I am sure that these gamblers betting on war are rich people, my grand father once told me that when the rich people have everything life gets boring for them and they look for crazy ways to get entertained, even if its inappropriate.

I can never place bet something that has to do with losing lives, it is so inappropriate and if I have the power I will get such platform closed down, I am not surprised though, there are too many creepy people living in the world today.

I feel pity for those who are caught in this ongoing war, they can't even flee their country into another, everyday people are losing their lives in both country, it is very sad and disheartening.

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That is definitely not a good approach involving wars on gambling because it could be clamouring for worsening devastations amongst both and aiding on uncalled challenges whereas, the state of being betted on for would enhance a more energizing non-stop disputing among both.

Indeed everything has really been things of fun and we are expected to tolerate whatever the circumstances may offer.
It should be cleared enough that the authorities are playing adamantly not to realize the nuisances about the levels and tensions that sporadically indicts the masses at the negative congestions simply because they are to gain the profits the actions is generated.

If only they would understand the mental enhancing morales being one of a sports fan could be, the relationships between the players and its fan and considering the social maliciousness amongst the sports of different umbrellas then the authorities would definitely always have its limits of some jokes or fowl plays when it gets to do with the people mental Indulgences.

Absolutely, it is a full lot of errors bring up wars to gambling.
Maybe somedays there would be a war league to be lunched if caution is not taking about the World of today going astray and absurbing.

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Quote from: Obari on November 30, 2023, 01:07:38 AM

Well I insert that the world of gambling is getting ridiculous and extremely wild but meh betting on a war will be very insane and what would be the criteria for judging the war results and who will be officiating a war match that has to do with guns and explosives? I never thought it wrong about betting on elections and other stuffs but betting on war isn’t a nice idea as it seems it’s encouraging killing which I’m sure we actually don’t desire.
I hope the image is actually photoshopped else it’s not a funny one.

Yes, there may be people who are so crazy as to bet on war. We also don't know who they are and can only see them on the sheet. Yes, it will encourage mass murder and we will see that the impact of the war will become more widespread because the betting on the war can reach the warring parties and they will probably be more enthusiastic about being able to win the war at all costs. This is clearly very dangerous for everyone, not just the warring parties, because there are definitely countries that are not directly involved in the war but will be drawn into the war. @OP has confirmed that it is photoshopped.

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SOMEBODY PHOTOSHOPPED THIS. THIS IS NOT A REAL BET.

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Quote from: Obari on November 30, 2023, 01:07:38 AM

Well I insert that the world of gambling is getting ridiculous and extremely wild but meh betting on a war will be very insane and what would be the criteria for judging the war results and who will be officiating a war match that has to do with guns and explosives? I never thought it wrong about betting on elections and other stuffs but betting on war isn’t a nice idea as it seems it’s encouraging killing which I’m sure we actually don’t desire.
I hope the image is actually photoshopped else it’s not a funny one.

It sounds like you didn't read the whole context of the OP. It says that the photo he sees on social media is supposed to be a joke, meaning the content of the picture is edited to be meant for a joke or for fun, so it is not real. But I do agree with you. I don't think any casino sites will have the guts to make this kind of bet. We are talking about war, and war is not something that we will make money off of as it will affect other countries and the economy. For the editor of the picture, I do hope he gets the attention he wants, and I hope that he will be punished for what he has created. This can also be alarming, as it may cause more trouble if the country in the photo sees it. This could become a mockery that could lead to a worse situation.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on November 29, 2023, 07:22:57 AM

Betting on war? How can bookies be providing service for their customers to be betting on war. Betting on who to win election, who to be the next miss world and something entertaining is better, but betting on war is just not appropriate and not entertaining at all. But people are people, they like to be full of something surprising.

Betting on an event that is causing destruction, pain and death should be discouraged because it is not considered as entertaining. But it could be fun for the warring nations or nationals. It might be fun to bet against an aggressive country because you want them to lose the war. Generally, I think it is a bad idea but like the OP said casinos will always offer services that are popularly demanded.

Quote from: Oasisman on November 30, 2023, 01:49:26 AM

It was crazy that few people in the 1st page of this post didn't bother to read the whole post as they believe it was a true betting line. One even believed there was a betting line opened during the Russian and Ukrainian war. I mean, man! That's absurd! Who does that? I'm quite certain people in the underground does, but with the bookie? I'm not gonna be surprised the authorities will sue that specific betting platform for being insensitive and inhumane.

The OP was right, there is an appropriate place and time for a joke like this, but it should never gonna be a good joke publicly.

Joking with or profiting from such a sensitive situation is wrong but business people could do anything to make money. Government authorities will disapprove gambling services on war but it could be allowed due to political affiliation. In 2003 some online gambling firms offered odds on the war between the United States and Iraq. There was also a topic on this that discussed about betting conflict:
Betting on the war.
You Can Bet on It: Playing the Odds on War.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on November 29, 2023, 07:50:33 AM

I find it inappropriate to offer a betting option on the winner of a war; it's just edited, and the screenshot isn't even clear. Regarding other betting options, such as elections, Oscar winners, or music event winners, I don't see anything wrong with that, as people enjoy betting on various events.

What I believe is that a regulated casino won't joke around on serious matters, especially those that involve the lives of many.

Sure it's inappropriate but I can't see why some betting sites won't do this type of stuff, it's not that crazy of a thing to think that someone will try this anyway. Also, if you allow those other events that aren't really what someone might consider a betting worthy event then war is equally welcome as those other stuff as much as we are disgusted about it if this is a true thing and if we want to do something about it then probably we can just file some sort of complaint to the casino first and then to the regulatory commission that might have a jurisdiction on that betting site. People have been profiting out of the misery of others ever since, I don't think that this is any different from that, either we fight this or we just ignore it, that's the only way in my opinion that we can deal with this issue.

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It was crazy that few people in the 1st page of this post didn't bother to read the whole post as they believe it was a true betting line. One even believed there was a betting line opened during the Russian and Ukrainian war. I mean, man! That's absurd! Who does that? I'm quite certain people in the underground does, but with the bookie? I'm not gonna be surprised the authorities will sue that specific betting platform for being insensitive and inhumane.

The OP was right, there is an appropriate place and time for a joke like this, but it should never gonna be a good joke publicly.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 29, 2023, 07:14:29 AM

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I understand that this is fake and was made for a joke. But some people dont know what jokes should be ended or are inappropriate... However, since some casinos have "special" section in sports betting (why this is in sports betting anyway?), and allow to place bets on election outcome, or on Oscar winner, or on music event like Eurovision, I would not be much surprised that in 5 or 10 years we would really have such absurd betting options. And most important what scares me, that casinos will hide behind "there is a demand on such betting" and there really be people who will find this demanding.

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As people did not bother real whole post, I will make it more visible

SOMEBODY PHOTOSHOPPED THIS. THIS IS NOT A REAL BET.

I still really remember when the war between Russia vs Ukraine happened, there were jokes about bets like this and to be honest making the war a bet was a bad joke, there were a lot of human lives that died, really only wild animals would make the lives of those who died as a joke bet. Currently the war between Israel vs Palestine will happen again because the 4 day ceasefire agreement has passed, there will be more casualties and if there are people who make the war between these two countries a bet then they are lower than animals.

Well is all about what people feel is right vs what they do as the right thing, this is not different from every other aspect of life such as in the war situation, people fight war and at the same time other people preach peace so the same that some may feels is ok to bet on wars, while others sees that as a no go area for them, since they gambling just for the fun of it and anything that affects human life, they try as much as possible to avoid them at all cost.

So for sure, we may just have to ignore whatever these people are trying to promote or whatever money they feel it will bring to them by betting on an absurd thing like war at some point, best for me to just avoid such since it involves taking humans' life.

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