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Quote from: John Langut on November 14, 2017, 07:23:05 PM

They don't have to replace each other, they can coexist and serve different needs. If anything Bitcoin Cash just put some much needed urgency back into Bitcoin development. The scaling is just getting worse and worse the more popular crypto becomes.

This.

I also think that if bitcoin doesn't solve it's scaling problems, and focuses on it's feud with bitcoincash, another alt will surge up and defeat them both.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

Knowing the psychology behind Bitcoin and the crashes it experienced before, this is just coming soon. Bitcoin is here to stay and as for BitcoinCash it can keep on trying as the next alternative maybe kicking Ethereum to the third spot soon (though Vitalik may put up a good fight so beware). This is the best time buy Bitcoin and start dumping BitcoinCash for profits.

Kicking ETH spot is even not going to be at all easy. BCH is obviously coming back down hugely and there is nothing Jihan and co can do about it.

Their stunts won't last and rather than trying to manipulate the market, which obviously won't help and unfortunately just some set of few people will end up getting burnt in the process from their manipulations, it is best they just stick to developing what they have and see how it goes.

As much as they want to spin the real story behind BCH pump & dump, no one will really listen to them, specially the big block proponents. And we all know that the stunt as well won't be sustainable at all, even if they try to pour every millions the got because we all know that it will just won't happened.

There are really a lot who got burnt specially newcomers who really though that bitcoin cash is the real deal, now they have lost and thinking what did they do wrong. Instead newbies should buy bitcoin instead, they will be lost in the crowd specially if they didn't knew what they are getting in the first place. Nice attempt though, but we all know that is not gonna be sustainable long term.

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Quote from: CryptoBry on November 12, 2017, 11:18:10 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

Knowing the psychology behind Bitcoin and the crashes it experienced before, this is just coming soon. Bitcoin is here to stay and as for BitcoinCash it can keep on trying as the next alternative maybe kicking Ethereum to the third spot soon (though Vitalik may put up a good fight so beware). This is the best time buy Bitcoin and start dumping BitcoinCash for profits.

Kicking ETH spot is even not going to be at all easy. BCH is obviously coming back down hugely and there is nothing Jihan and co can do about it.

Their stunts won't last and rather than trying to manipulate the market, which obviously won't help and unfortunately just some set of few people will end up getting burnt in the process from their manipulations, it is best they just stick to developing what they have and see how it goes.

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

It is nothing that we do not expect for it to happen anytime soon. Price will reevaluate which is why I do not really just like the BCH market most especially when it is already on the rise.

Besides this, it is best for anyone to just take their profits at this moment and wait for the re-bounce of bitcoin which before the end of this week is definitely bound to happen. It is better now than never as greed is what usually ends up making people to lose a lot.

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Quote from: digaran on November 12, 2017, 11:22:51 PM

How many of you bought BCH hoping it to replace Bitcoin over night? yesterday BTC and ETC received their biggest pumps, now they're down, next time you wanted to invest on some profitable coin, try BTC, Ξ not their clones.

BTC will still always remain the most profitable coin no matter what BCH does. BCH cannot replace BTC and no matter they want to prove with their manipulations, it just cannot work.

Any sane person should know that already that there is absolutely no way the whole pump for BCH can go down that nice. Best to pull out now than whistling through the ears in a short while from the huge dump. Good for those who saw this coming and bought BCH at a very low price anyway.

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Yeah, People are doing it now but the big amount of money that flowed and transferred into BCH last time is not just by people casually jumping into BCH but the Big Whales who created the price upsurge on BCH is still not yet finished on creating FUD and dips on Bitcoin.

I expect another price dip on Bitcoin, attacks are still there and these Big Whales will not stop until BCH return their 'investment'.

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Quote from: solarion on November 14, 2017, 01:27:35 PM

But still many stupid goes to BCH now. I am sure this is the day again they have back their bag with the bitcoin. You can keep hold your bitcoin now. Value passes more than 6.5k by yesterday itself.
So now no worries accoridng to me. With in a well bitcoin will reached 7k USD I am sure in that.

Honestly, any Crypto Currency trader knows how to trade and use the market manipulations to his or her advantage. I knew this would happen, it happened when BCH forked and now happening again after segwit2x was cancelled.

I am still waiting patiently for Bitcoin Gold but seems those ones( the developers) are not serious yet or they re still working on how to manipulate the market ( Or add their own mined coins to the network). I still have all my Private keys in place. Grin

Even though BTC will continue to be the last man standing or the only deflationary currency ever created, rest are just parading themselves as a crypto running on BC but far bellow BTC and still years away. We will start seeing more of Crypto rubble. Another failed traditional financial system running on blockchain = Failure. We already know ETHER has failed and this explains why with all the features (smart contract e.t.c), it's still far and by no way be compared to the Bits

If you can take advantage of the market, please don't miss out! Go for it while the show last. One thing is certain, BTC will always come back stronger, and more influential.

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They don't have to replace each other, they can coexist and serve different needs. If anything Bitcoin Cash just put some much needed urgency back into Bitcoin development. The scaling is just getting worse and worse the more popular crypto becomes.

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Quote from: digaran on November 12, 2017, 11:22:51 PM

How many of you bought BCH hoping it to replace Bitcoin over night? yesterday BTC and ETC received their biggest pumps, now they're down, next time you wanted to invest on some profitable coin, try BTC, Ξ not their clones.

Not me or many people in the forum, if that ever happens and I do not think it will, it is something that is going to take a lot of time, only those that are too optimistic think BCH can replace bitcoin in just a matter of days especially since almost no one is using bitcoin cash for anything other than to speculate.

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

But still many stupid goes to BCH now. I am sure this is the day again they have back their bag with the bitcoin. You can keep hold your bitcoin now. Value passes more than 6.5k by yesterday itself.
So now no worries accoridng to me. With in a well bitcoin will reached 7k USD I am sure in that.

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Quote from: panju1 on November 13, 2017, 01:41:28 AM

Quote from: digaran on November 12, 2017, 11:22:51 PM

How many of you bought BCH hoping it to replace Bitcoin over night? yesterday BTC and ETC received their biggest pumps, now they're down, next time you wanted to invest on some profitable coin, try BTC, Ξ not their clones.

I don't think too many would have done this. The rise in BCH and the corresponding correction happened way too quickly. The day traders might have tried to get in on the action, but most others would have just observed it calmly.

I have never liked the BCH manipulations and it has always been a very risky coin to trade for me. This is why I have always observed. However, I expected this to happen this way but not to this point and I won't be surprised at the drastic dump it would have in the next few hours or some days looking at the chart activities right now and I would run and take profit now if holding some.

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Quote from: freeyourmind on November 13, 2017, 02:26:51 PM

Actually, we did not need BCC. We need fast and reliable transactions. At the moment, the usage of BCC is not related to the purpose of BCC. I do not think BCC will be a long life.

BCC literally got pumped only because there wasn't the fork and people saw that the price of BCH was going up bit by bit, so they threw all their money into that can. It was literally manipulation, and the same manipulation happens for BTC as well, albeit on a larger scale. The rise in BCC price doesn't really relate to its lifespan, it was moreso the fact that people were trying to get quick money.

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Actually, we did not need BCC. We need fast and reliable transactions. At the moment, the usage of BCC is not related to the purpose of BCC. I do not think BCC will be a long life.

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Quote from: thesmallgod on November 13, 2017, 08:05:43 AM

you are taking a big risk. what if the bitcoin fell again. what happen to BCH is a wakeup call to investors that some big investor are manipulating the market by trying to make BCH rise and probably dethrone BTC but some exchangers doesnt want such huge withdrawal is it can have a effect on crypto market. for me its good to hold your coin now and wait till all this shit is over. i dont think its economical to take such risk at the point when the market is really unstable

Oh well trading always have a risk. It is up to the trader if he can take advantage of the information he have to minimize this risk. I also believe that bitcoin will start to go up now after this fall. Enough for BCH manipulation, do not fall into it, it is a trap unless you know how to ride it. I do agree with OP, time to get profit from BCH and convert it to BTC and wait till it go up again.

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Quote from: thesmallgod on November 13, 2017, 08:05:43 AM

you are taking a big risk. what if the bitcoin fell again. what happen to BCH is a wakeup call to investors that some big investor are manipulating the market by trying to make BCH rise and probably dethrone BTC but some exchangers doesnt want such huge withdrawal is it can have a effect on crypto market. for me its good to hold your coin now and wait till all this shit is over. i dont think its economical to take such risk at the point when the market is really unstable

Why do assume the huge run up in Bitcoins price was not market manipulation, but Bitcoin Cash's increase was market manipulation? Both sides have investors with deep pockets. It would be foolish to assume that they are not playing ordinary investors.

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you are taking a big risk. what if the bitcoin fell again. what happen to BCH is a wakeup call to investors that some big investor are manipulating the market by trying to make BCH rise and probably dethrone BTC but some exchangers doesnt want such huge withdrawal is it can have a effect on crypto market. for me its good to hold your coin now and wait till all this shit is over. i dont think its economical to take such risk at the point when the market is really unstable

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Quote from: CryptoBry on November 12, 2017, 11:18:10 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

Knowing the psychology behind Bitcoin and the crashes it experienced before, this is just coming soon. Bitcoin is here to stay and as for BitcoinCash it can keep on trying as the next alternative maybe kicking Ethereum to the third spot soon (though Vitalik may put up a good fight so beware). This is the best time buy Bitcoin and start dumping BitcoinCash for profits.

The scenario kept coming back just like before and if we speculate about the crashes that you've been thinking of, well that probably stressed us out. I don't think bitcoin cash will over power bitcoin, so as with ethereum idea its not that easy because eth now is having more contracts and sooner it will dominate other alts how much more with BCH. Bitcoin will now start to pump again due to the current updates traders of BCH just used it for minor pumps so that they can dump immediately as part of trading strategies.

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Quote from: alyssa85 on November 13, 2017, 07:00:11 AM

Remember that BCH does a consensus hard fork tonight to change the difficulty algorithm. We don't know how it's going to play out. It might mean the miners flocking back to BCH.

Be safe out there!

Let the miners flocking anywhere. In order to get coins you need to be someone extracted. You know a lot of people who want to buy BCH? Now there was a big pump. Many wanted to earn some money. But trust they will never be this coin. Speculative capital can for a few days may come and as quickly go.

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Remember that BCH does a consensus hard fork tonight to change the difficulty algorithm. We don't know how it's going to play out. It might mean the miners flocking back to BCH.

Be safe out there!

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

You are right but normal people will not consider such technical aspects normally.What they would see is a coin just rising in price,immediately they would jump to it dropping their holdings and when the newly bought coin faces a dip,once again immediately they will sell it and return to their older coin.This was which we were witnessing during the past and it would continue in future too.

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