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Topic: Sorry but schools are not doing enough People are not educated - page 2. (Read 539 times)

legendary
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when english classes give you a poem and tell you to read it. then later test you on a detail in the poem. thats not education. thats just testing you done the homework

however if english class gave you a poem and said can you translate the metaphor and find a situation in your life that matches. then that is educating. as it gets students to think, problem solve, interpret and then find a use.

as for creativity. in art if a teacher puts a flower plant on a table along side some colouring pencils. and ask them to draw it. thats not creativity.
as its all the same. same image, same material

but if a art teacher asks you to think of something that interests you and draw it in a way that can display your emotion towards it. then the student can be more creative.
EG suicidal kids would draw a knife, and use dark tones. (blacks and grey charcoals)
EG a superhero nerd will draw ironman. and use lots of colour paints and draw iron man doing some action scene
thus individualised,, custom, thoughtful, emotion provoking. chance to learn to use different materials. thus creative

many highschools just go through the motion of heres something. do it and ill check you done it.
not really using the oppertunity to actually be inventive, creative, energised about the subject
legendary
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If one relies only on what he was taught by his teachers in school, one has gained knowledge, but is not educated. In my opinion, the proper definition and description of an educated man is one who can identify problems and deficits and by himself seek out knowledge and solutions to them. The school doesn't teach you everything because they are restricted to a curriculum, they set the pace for you, but it left to you to decide whether to continue to educate your mind or simply take what you have been given and rot.
Spot on and merit given for that ^
Education is not learning by rote: Education is learning facts along with learning how to explore & understand the reasons behind them. Understanding the 'how' and 'why' of things is far more important than just being able to memorize and recite a list of things.
hero member
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It's obvious that all knowledge does not come from school only, weather it's secondary or tertiary institution, what we learnt in the school is just a key to expand our knowledge, and the best knowledge is the knowledge acquire by yourself, which is self understanding via education, and it's clear that been a graduate does not mean that you know all, no,

These are the major things that makes up educated person and intelligent person, from my views

* Ability to solve a problem... Without waiting for existing solution's
* Ability to be creative...because creativity is a key to technology
* Meditation......Thinking of positive invention
* Personal prove.....That will be adopted by another
sr. member
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schools only teach the general knowledge stuff. the basics all should know
they do 'bait' at certain details that can forward people into more specialised education. but they dont provide enough education in these 'baited' details to actually help people prosper from the start

many times this is done on purpose. because why would you pay for college/university if you could learn it at the lower levels.

EG everyone should learn economics but secondary/high school dont teach basic principles of managing money.
they teach you how to spend it. but not have to be wise with your money.
schools teach you credit cards are normal things people should use, informing kids to 'build credit asap'
universities teach you the perils of debt
Governments made the education system and they want all those poor people to be poor all the time by paying more and more taxes while inflation also increase. If they realize that money losing its purchasing power then they should not ready to accept it as payment but government never want these details to be know to most people.
sr. member
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Me myself I Don't have much of the school education but when im speaking with someone who got quite good educational base from the school.... it makes me think.....


Think no more about that alright. You need to understand it, education isn't what you really need to succeed or speak well in the public. It takes yourself and your mental capacity plus wisdom given to you God. Wisdom was what Solomon had that made him the wise man


Now its time to ask who was your teacher?  


Your mum and family general. The family is the first stage of socialization, this is where we are shaped first before even school, pals or public. And most times the blood relations help make our genes.
legendary
Activity: 4424
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schools only teach the general knowledge stuff. the basics all should know
they do 'bait' at certain details that can forward people into more specialised education. but they dont provide enough education in these 'baited' details to actually help people prosper from the start

many times this is done on purpose. because why would you pay for college/university if you could learn it at the lower levels.

EG everyone should learn economics but secondary/high school dont teach basic principles of managing money.
they teach you how to spend it. but not have to be wise with your money.
schools teach you credit cards are normal things people should use, informing kids to 'build credit asap'
universities teach you the perils of debt
sr. member
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https://youtu.be/Io3sdAAcZLw take a look at this video, its actually an interview from Elon Musk and he is actually right though.

If you want to learn things then you should learn it, don't expect the schools and teacher to make you as another Elon Musk because if they are capable of they won't be trapped in the class rooms. Cheesy
hero member
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If your expecting all that you need to know in life to succeed to be thought to you, not even by school alone or should i say a formal education, your very much mistaking! Life needs experiences from every sphere and that's how useful it also gets. You should be diligent and sharp to grasp and never to forget that which is thought in the classrooms and know how to apply them in life as most persons in the education system learns to pass and as such forgets while in the same way, experience and take the things you observe seriously. In essence, learn at every given chance and know that, not everything is thought in classrooms.
legendary
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If one relies only on what he was taught by his teachers in school, one has gained knowledge, but is not educated. In my opinion, the proper definition and description of an educated man is one who can identify problems and deficits and by himself seek out knowledge and solutions to them. The school doesn't teach you everything because they are restricted to a curriculum, they set the pace for you, but it left to you to decide whether to continue to educate your mind or simply take what you have been given and rot.

Often times people learn more when they travel and go places. The things you learn from China may not be the kinds of things you learn from US, the surroundings and what the people will tell you will let you experience things which the truth in China may not be the truth for the people in most countries. There is place in this world that values men with big bellies while some places don't.

Today only the media will educate you and if you believe what they say on tv and radio, you are like the kid who is taught to swindle by their parents and now you think swindling is normal.
 
legendary
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If one relies only on what he was taught by his teachers in school, one has gained knowledge, but is not educated. In my opinion, the proper definition and description of an educated man is one who can identify problems and deficits and by himself seek out knowledge and solutions to them. The school doesn't teach you everything because they are restricted to a curriculum, they set the pace for you, but it left to you to decide whether to continue to educate your mind or simply take what you have been given and rot.
sr. member
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Even simple things I start to learn here people are wrong about them.
Clearly I see that schoold education is not enough People finished schools are saying so many wrong things they don't know even simple fundamentals.

Me myself I Don't have much of the school education but when im speaking with someone who got quite good educational base from the school.... it makes me think.....
No wonder why so many people can get themselfes in hopless situations.

First things what I discovered here people talk about inflation and money!!  
Its all so wrong the fundamentals the very base of knowledge that's shame!!


Now its time to ask who was your teacher?  
Im glad I didnt finish the school!!



I suggest you need to make some background check on the school you prefer to go in. Look at their academic achievements and past history of their graduated student if they had outstanding ones. Having a good student means that the quality of education they were teaching were not on subpar or par with what the average person can learn on school.
legendary
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In my case, I went to a very good school, where the teachers really tried their best to educate us, not only with the content of the subjects, but with life in general. I know it is not usual, and even in my school, many classmates didn't seem to take any advantage of teachers' efforts. As an anecdote, at the last class of philosophy at school, the teacher told us that he didn't care if we forgot everything what we learnt in his classes in the coming years: he would be happy if we just learnt to be critical and not buy anyone's story.

After these years, I went to a prestigious College and there everything was different. It seemed that most of the teachers didn't care at all if students got educated or not. Maybe this was because we were no longer kids and they didn't want to take responsibility of the results (many just seemed to teach there so they could write it in their CV) so, in my case, I learnt much more about almost everything at school that at University.

I suppose it is a matter of the center you study in, the teachers you get and the willingness to learn that you have, but I don't think that the subject of this thread could be stated as a universal rule, as in my case it turned out to be the opposite.
member
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Even simple things I start to learn here people are wrong about them.
Clearly I see that schoold education is not enough People finished schools are saying so many wrong things they don't know even simple fundamentals.

Me myself I Don't have much of the school education but when im speaking with someone who got quite good educational base from the school.... it makes me think.....
No wonder why so many people can get themselfes in hopless situations.

First things what I discovered here people talk about inflation and money!!  
Its all so wrong the fundamentals the very base of knowledge that's shame!!


Now its time to ask who was your teacher?  
Im glad I didnt finish the school!!

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