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Topic: South Africa: attacks on migrants show failure to stem racial tension (Read 1104 times)

legendary
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You believe the crime rate is higher?  Or is it just that there's a semblance of a crime reporting system in place, where elsewhere, good luck.

It can be a combination of both. A large part of the South African population lives in the so called "informal townships" (comparable to the ghettos in the United States), where the crime rate is unbelievably high. Most of the other Sub Saharan African nations don't have these ghetto areas, and therefore the crime rate is somewhat lower.
legendary
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South Africa is only doing way, way better than most other sub-Saharan countries.  And it's ONLY a lot safer than in the past.

The crime rate in South Africa remains higher than that in most of the other Sub Saharan African nations, and I am yet to observe any significant drop in the rates as of now. There is no denying that RSA is one of the wealthiest nations in the African continent. But that is solely due to the presence of the gold and platinum deposits, which have been extracted almost completely.

You believe the crime rate is higher?  Or is it just that there's a semblance of a crime reporting system in place, where elsewhere, good luck.
legendary
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South Africa is only doing way, way better than most other sub-Saharan countries.  And it's ONLY a lot safer than in the past.

The crime rate in South Africa remains higher than that in most of the other Sub Saharan African nations, and I am yet to observe any significant drop in the rates as of now. There is no denying that RSA is one of the wealthiest nations in the African continent. But that is solely due to the presence of the gold and platinum deposits, which have been extracted almost completely.
legendary
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Hi

South Africa is quite an unsafe country. It is struggling to shake off its history and will require a lot more time to develop so that each citizen can have a good standard of living.

Thanks

South Africa is only doing way, way better than most other sub-Saharan countries.  And it's ONLY a lot safer than in the past.

sr. member
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Hi

South Africa is quite an unsafe country. It is struggling to shake off its history and will require a lot more time to develop so that each citizen can have a good standard of living.

Thanks
hero member
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US millionaire extends migrant rescue mission to Turkey and Greece

Charity to operate second boat in eastern Mediterranean as growing numbers of refugees drown in stormier seas


An American millionaire has launched a private rescue mission in the eastern Mediterranean Sea in an attempt to save the lives of a still-increasing number of refugees and migrants sailing from Turkey to Greece.

The Migrant Offshore Aid Station (Moas), a charity founded and run by Chris Catrambone, an American entrepreneur, already runs a rescue mission off the coast of Libya, and will now operate a second boat in waters between the Turkish coastline and the Greek islands of Lesbos, Chios and Samos. The ship’s two speedboats will be named after the two Syrian children, Aylan and Galip Kurdi, whose deaths in early September sparked international outrage.

Several hundred thousand refugees, mainly Syrian and Afghan, have crossed this stretch of the Aegean Sea this year, and a rising number are now drowning due to the stormier weather conditions. A record 3,460 migrants have died in the Mediterranean so far in 2015, roughly 450 of whom drowned in the Aegean, according to figures supplied by the UN refugee agency.

Explaining the decision, the charity’s director, Martin Xuereb, said: “As long as people are crossing for one reason or other, there needs to be an asset there that mitigates loss of life at sea. We’re not saying that saving lives will solve the issue of migration, we know it’s much more complex than that. But we’re there to look after the individuals or groups who feel they have no other option to take to boats whether it’s the central Mediterranean [north of Libya], or the Aegean.”

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/11/us-millionaire-chris-catrambone-migrant-rescue-mission-turkey-greece
legendary
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I don't have time to look it up right now, but I saw a scientific article a while back that attributed lower Muslim IQ at least in large part to iodine deficiencies.  For the areas looked at - again, just going from memory here - they would have been largely "white."
rule of thumb is the darker the stupider
legendary
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The average IQ of Muslims is also quite low.

Minor note, blacks are neither a "species" or a "genus."

Now, we know that many blacks in sub Saharan Africa are Muslim.

Is the low Iq of Muslims a result of many being blacks, or is the low Iq of blacks due to many of them being Muslim?
it is likely due to being black, since other varieties of muslims have managed to build higher level civilsations than them ,although these are not close to european standards
I don't have time to look it up right now, but I saw a scientific article a while back that attributed lower Muslim IQ at least in large part to iodine deficiencies.  For the areas looked at - again, just going from memory here - they would have been largely "white."
legendary
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The average IQ of Muslims is also quite low.

Minor note, blacks are neither a "species" or a "genus."

Now, we know that many blacks in sub Saharan Africa are Muslim.

Is the low Iq of Muslims a result of many being blacks, or is the low Iq of blacks due to many of them being Muslim?
it is likely due to being black, since other varieties of muslims have managed to build higher level civilsations than them ,although these are not close to european standards
sr. member
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if you give an iq test to a country in which the majority of people are disadvantaged both economically and educationally of course they  will get a low score, if you judge a forest full of finches on how well they can can swim your result wont be very pleasing nor accurate
blacks' disadvantagement is a consequence of their low intelligence

each species has things it is good at and things it is not so good at. finches are better at flying than swimming and blacks are better at doing manual work under the direction of higher grade races than trying to run countries and cities for themselves.

The average IQ of Muslims is also quite low.

Minor note, blacks are neither a "species" or a "genus."

Now, we know that many blacks in sub Saharan Africa are Muslim.

Is the low Iq of Muslims a result of many being blacks, or is the low Iq of blacks due to many of them being Muslim?
neither, your IQ isnt dependent on your race, clearly shown by this thread
legendary
Activity: 2926
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if you give an iq test to a country in which the majority of people are disadvantaged both economically and educationally of course they  will get a low score, if you judge a forest full of finches on how well they can can swim your result wont be very pleasing nor accurate
blacks' disadvantagement is a consequence of their low intelligence

each species has things it is good at and things it is not so good at. finches are better at flying than swimming and blacks are better at doing manual work under the direction of higher grade races than trying to run countries and cities for themselves.

The average IQ of Muslims is also quite low.

Minor note, blacks are neither a "species" or a "genus."

Now, we know that many blacks in sub Saharan Africa are Muslim.

Is the low Iq of Muslims a result of many being blacks, or is the low Iq of blacks due to many of them being Muslim?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1014
if you give an iq test to a country in which the majority of people are disadvantaged both economically and educationally of course they  will get a low score, if you judge a forest full of finches on how well they can can swim your result wont be very pleasing nor accurate
blacks' disadvantagement is a consequence of their low intelligence

each species has things it is good at and things it is not so good at. finches are better at flying than swimming and blacks are better at doing manual work under the direction of higher grade races than trying to run countries and cities for themselves.
sr. member
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stubborn like yourself ? frankly your iq doesn't sound too high
the average african iq is 70 which in white countries would be considered mentally retarded, sorry that the statistics dont fit in with your political ideology of all races are equal
if you give an iq test to a country in which the majority of people are disadvantaged both economically and educationally of course they  will get a low score, if you judge a forest full of finches on how well they can can swim your result wont be very pleasing nor accurate
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1014
stubborn like yourself ? frankly your iq doesn't sound too high
the average african iq is 70 which in white countries would be considered mentally retarded, sorry that the statistics dont fit in with your political ideology of all races are equal
sr. member
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That is no reason for the inequality of the apartheid era.
If everybody feels that things were better 20 years ago, nothing stops the same politicians (of 20 years ago) being elected democratically.
everybody doesn't think that, because most blacks are stubborn and stupid

the average south african black has the iq of a 14 year old white child
stubborn like yourself ? frankly your iq doesn't sound too high
sr. member
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although those acts of violence were committed by black people in both the AFP and the ANC, they were funded and trained by the remaining conservatives of the NP, to demonstrate "the black mans inability to remain civilised "

New conspiracy theory? There is no evidence to prove what you had posted, and no sane person will believe any of it. The real reason for the violence was the decision by the IFP chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi to maintain the KwaZulu homeland as a separate sovereign entity, despite the ANC giving them an ultimatum to merge it with the post-apartheid South Africa. It has nothing to do with the NP.
my history text book believes other wise. and the same argument works for your opinion, what evidence do you have to disprove it
legendary
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although those acts of violence were committed by black people in both the AFP and the ANC, they were funded and trained by the remaining conservatives of the NP, to demonstrate "the black mans inability to remain civilised "

New conspiracy theory? There is no evidence to prove what you had posted, and no sane person will believe any of it. The real reason for the violence was the decision by the IFP chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi to maintain the KwaZulu homeland as a separate sovereign entity, despite the ANC giving them an ultimatum to merge it with the post-apartheid South Africa. It has nothing to do with the NP.
legendary
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That is no reason for the inequality of the apartheid era.
If everybody feels that things were better 20 years ago, nothing stops the same politicians (of 20 years ago) being elected democratically.
everybody doesn't think that, because most blacks are stubborn and stupid

the average south african black has the iq of a 14 year old white child
legendary
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Violence has become a way of life in South Africa, especially in the black majority townships. And this has been going on for ages. Remember the clashes between the ANC and the IFP supporters in 1992 and 1993? The IFP supporters committed several massacres, including the infamous Boipatong massacre. But earlier, the violence was mostly between two political parties. Now it is happening between the South African Blacks and the migrants.
although those acts of violence were committed by black people in both the AFP and the ANC, they were funded and trained by the remaining conservatives of the NP, to demonstrate "the black mans inability to remain civilised "

Bah.  Even at a bus strop, the blacks group by tribal.  And they won't get on a bus if it is full of a different tribe.  Might well get killed, if they did.
legendary
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if whites had known what would become of their country i wonder if they would have agreed to end apartheid. i have heard from both black and white south africans that things were better 20 years ago.

That is no reason for the inequality of the apartheid era.
If everybody feels that things were better 20 years ago, nothing stops the same politicians (of 20 years ago) being elected democratically.
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