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I saw this a couple of week ago, and this is a response to a ban of a certain brand of chocolate in north korea, South koreans are sending ballons with chocolates to north Korea that's all to it, are you trolling with your title?
legendary
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(DVDs can they get DVD players?)

Often, they carry things like anti-North Korean leaflets and USB sticks containing photos from places outside the country.

And USB drives?
There are a few assembly factories, they're making them... By the way, both sides are using DVDs and CDs for distribution of official propaganda.

The most funny thing here is that you can be democratically imprisoned for 5 years in South Korea if you'll be catched with DPRK propaganda CD. The same is correct for RK propaganda CDs in DPRK.

and USB sticks containing photos from places outside the country.
No sense, DPRK isn't a concentration camp. Many of their migrants are working in china and russia and able to see the world without this photos.

BTW, there is an interesting migration rule in DPRK. If women will return pregnant from China, she will be forced to perform an abortion.
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
http://mashable.com/2014/07/31/south-korea-choco-pies/


I wonder what the North Korean reaction will be?

1. Anger
2. Gratitude
3. Explosive Diarrhea  <<<<<85%

Nothing like an airdrop that looks like a Condom lol.
Anyways I hope they enjoy their choco pies and probably diarrhea although over there food is scarce so this probably helps them a lot.

The pies were used to supplement low wages and give the workers a literal taste of the outside world.

"Choco Pies are an important mind-changing instrument ... [North Koreans] are suffering and starving, but thanks to Choco Pies, DVDs and large-scale labour migration to China, people don't buy the old story [that the South is even poorer] and the government does not sell it any more," Andrei Lankov, an expert on Korean studies, told The Guardian. Other items like DVDs have also been transported to North Korea via balloons.

(DVDs can they get DVD players?)

Often, they carry things like anti-North Korean leaflets and USB sticks containing photos from places outside the country.

And USB drives?
hero member
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I think people hate North Korea so much, that they forget that the people there are the biggest victims. They are brainwashed their whole life and live in a poverty more extreme than central africa!
people need to distinguish government from a group of people. i am american, and my government does not represent my thoughts and feelings, so don't blame me for invading other countries.
If you live in a democracy then you would have helped elect politicians that decided to invade other countries. If someone gives you feedback about the actions of the government, the idea is that you pass along that feedback in the form of votes.
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they deserve to die. ALL of them.
typical-liberal-democratic-hypocrite-faggot.png

WTF, where did you get that he was a liberal/democrat?
We in Russia have a nice word "liberast" which is used to label persons like him. They're hypocrites who talks much about freedom and civil rights but prefer to establish an inhuman, fascist dictatorship instead.

I have a personal stake in the matter, so I am not objective.

Would you be objective if your kinsfolk were murdered?

FUCK ALL COMMIES AND EX-COMMIES. MURDERERING LIARS.


EXAMPLE:

The word Holodomor literally translated from Ukrainian means "death by hunger", or "to kill by hunger, to starve to death".[29] Sometimes the expression is

translated into English as "murder by hunger or starvation".[30] Holodomor is a compound of the Ukrainian words holod meaning "hunger" and mor meaning

"plague". The expression moryty holodom means "to inflict death by hunger". The Ukrainian verb moryty (мopити) means "to poison somebody, drive to

exhaustion or to torment somebody". The perfective form of the verb moryty is zamoryty – "kill or drive to death by hunger, exhausting work". The word was

used in print as early as 1978 by Ukrainian immigrant organisations in the United States and Canada.[31][32][33] However, in the Soviet Union – of which

Ukraine was a member – references to the famine were controlled, even after de-Stalinization in 1956. Historians could speak only of 'food difficulties', and

the use of the very word golod/holod (hunger, famine) was forbidden.


Discussion of the Holodomor became more open as part of Glasnost in the late 1980s. In Ukraine, the first official use of the word was a December 1987

speech by Volodymyr Shcherbytskyi, First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine,[34] on the occasion of the republic's

seventieth anniversary.[35] An early public usage in the Soviet Union was in February 1988, in a speech by Oleksiy Musiyenko, Deputy Secretary for

ideological matters of the party organisation of the Kiev branch of the Union of Soviet Writers in Ukraine.[36][37] The term may have first appeared in print in

 the Soviet Union on 18 July 1988, in his article on the topic.[38] "Holodomor" is now an entry in the modern, two-volume dictionary of the Ukrainian

language, published in 2004. The term is described as "artificial hunger, organised on a vast scale by a criminal regime against a country's population."



The famine had been predicted as far back as 1930 by academics and advisers to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic government, but little to no preventive action was taken.[40] The famine affected the Ukrainian SSR as well as the Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (a part of the Ukrainian SSR at the time) in the spring of 1932[41] and from February to July 1933,[42] with the greatest number of victims recorded in the spring of 1933. Between 1926 and 1939, the Ukrainian population increased by 6.6%, whereas Russia and Belarus grew by 16.9% and 11.7%, respectively.[43][44]
From the 1932 harvest, Soviet authorities were able to procure only 4.3 million tons as compared with 7.2 million tons obtained from the 1931 harvest.[45] Rations in town were drastically cut back, and in the winter of 1932–33 and spring of 1933 people in many urban areas were starved.[46] The urban workers were supplied by a rationing system (and therefore could occasionally assist their starving relatives of the countryside), but rations were gradually cut; and by the spring of 1933, the urban residents also faced starvation. At the same time, workers were shown agitprop movies, where all peasants were portrayed as counterrevolutionaries hiding grain and potatoes at a time when workers, who were constructing the "bright future" of socialism, were starving.[47]
The first reports of mass malnutrition and deaths from starvation emerged from two urban areas of the city of Uman, reported in January 1933 by Vinnytsya and Kiev oblasts. By mid-January 1933, there were reports about mass "difficulties" with food in urban areas, which had been undersupplied through the rationing system, and deaths from starvation among people who were withdrawn from the rationing supply. The withdrawal was to comply with the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine Decree of December 1932. By the beginning of February 1933, according to reports from local authorities and Ukrainian GPU, the most affected area was Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, which also suffered from epidemics of typhus and malaria. Odessa and Kiev oblasts were second and third, respectively. By mid-March, most of the reports of starvation originated from Kiev Oblast.
By mid-April 1933, Kharkiv Oblast reached the top of the most affected list, while Kiev, Dnipropetrovsk, Odessa, Vinnytsya, and Donetsk oblasts, and Moldavian SSR were next on the list. Reports about mass deaths from starvation, dated mid-May through the beginning of June 1933, originated from raions in Kiev and Kharkiv oblasts. The "less affected" list noted Chernihiv Oblast and northern parts of Kiev and Vinnytsya oblasts. The Central Committee of the CP(b) of Ukraine Decree of 8 February 1933 said no hunger cases should have remained untreated. Local authorities had to submit reports about the numbers suffering from hunger, the reasons for hunger, number of deaths from hunger, food aid provided from local sources, and centrally provided food aid required. The GPU managed parallel reporting and food assistance in the Ukrainian SSR. (Many regional reports and most of the central summary reports are available from present-day central and regional Ukrainian archives.)[48] The Ukrainian Weekly, which was tracking the situation in 1933, reported the difficulties in communications and the appalling situation in Ukraine.
Evidence of widespread cannibalism was documented during the Holodomor.[49]
Survival was a moral as well as a physical struggle. A woman doctor wrote to a friend in June 1933 that she had not yet become a cannibal, but was "not sure that I shall not be one by the time my letter reaches you." The good people died first. Those who refused to steal or to prostitute themselves died. Those who gave food to others died. Those who refused to eat corpses died. Those who refused to kill their fellow man died.[50]
The Soviet regime printed posters declaring: "To eat your own children is a barbarian act."[51]:225 More than 2,500 people were convicted of cannibalism during the Holodomor.[52]
 
legendary
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they deserve to die. ALL of them.
typical-liberal-democratic-hypocrite-faggot.png

WTF, where did you get that he was a liberal/democrat?
We in Russia have a nice word "liberast" which is used to label persons like him. They're hypocrites who talks much about freedom and civil rights but prefer to establish an inhuman, fascist dictatorship instead.
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I think people hate North Korea so much, that they forget that the people there are the biggest victims. They are brainwashed their whole life and live in a poverty more extreme than central africa!

people need to distinguish government from a group of people. i am american, and my government does not represent my thoughts and feelings, so don't blame me for invading other countries.

Exactly, but emotions blur the mind and let become otherwise rational people the extreme opposite.

Another example is companies. Just because you hate your ISP you don't need to hate the support workers and let it out on them...
sr. member
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I think people hate North Korea so much, that they forget that the people there are the biggest victims. They are brainwashed their whole life and live in a poverty more extreme than central africa!

people need to distinguish government from a group of people. i am american, and my government does not represent my thoughts and feelings, so don't blame me for invading other countries.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
I think people hate North Korea so much, that they forget that the people there are the biggest victims. They are brainwashed their whole life and live in a poverty more extreme than central africa!
sr. member
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Merit: 250
they deserve to die. ALL of them.
typical-liberal-democratic-hypocrite-faggot.png

WTF, where did you get that he was a liberal/democrat?
legendary
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they deserve to die. ALL of them.
typical-liberal-democratic-hypocrite-faggot.png
newbie
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there are still shortages (not starvation) due to the army first policy which diverts resources to the military but this is absolutely essential for warding off imperialist aggression. koreans understand fully that their sacrifices ensure the survival of their nation and socialist system and for this reason even during the famine when up to a million died there was no hint of rebellion against the leadership. kim jong il will be remembered alongside napoleon and alexander as military genius for developing the army first politics.



FUCK NORTH KOREA AND KIM JONG DINGLEBERRY!!!

If the North Koreans are too weak or stupid to overthrow their current murderer in office, they deserve to die. ALL of them.

KimJong will be remembered alongside the likes of Moe, Larry and Curly. A FUCKING JOKE.

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i find it strange that they send chocopies to a country of people who are malnourished and starving. chocopies are not going to help.. give them something with more nutritional value.
Since the North folk like them so much, it really entices them to open up these packages and check out the propaganda when otherwise they'd be afraid to.
This sounds like a very creative way to spread propaganda in North Korea (I don't think it would be false). Do you have any stats on how well this works to spread propaganda?
legendary
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Hm... It seems he's from DPRK. It's interesting that the most of (~80%) Korean migrants in Russia are from DPRK.

The most of them are talking like saddampbuh during the first week.
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in defi we trust
there are still shortages (not starvation) due to the army first policy which diverts resources to the military but this is absolutely essential for warding off imperialist aggression. koreans understand fully that their sacrifices ensure the survival of their nation and socialist system and for this reason even during the famine when up to a million died there was no hint of rebellion against the leadership. kim jong il will be remembered alongside napoleon and alexander as military genius for developing the army first politics.

Remembered by who?
By those that have starved?
You nkorean propaganda isn't going to to work on this forum. You're wasting your time.
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no one is starving, these are stories from 1994 - 2000 being repeated in the media by anti dprk sources.

There has been some improvement in the past 10 years or so. But a significant portion of the population still does not have enough to eat (may be one-third of the population or 8 million people).
There are many too many people in NK that are hungry. It may not be to the point they are "starving" but it is very bad.
legendary
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i find it strange that they send chocopies to a country of people who are malnourished and starving. chocopies are not going to help.. give them something with more nutritional value.
Since the North folk like them so much, it really entices them to open up these packages and check out the propaganda when otherwise they'd be afraid to.
legendary
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what about it? still doesnt' change the fact that if i'm sending "food" to starving people, it won't be chocolate pies.

There is a story behind it. The choco-pie barter system originated in the Kaesong Industrial Region, where tens of thousands of North Koreans work for their South Korean employers. The South Koreans are not allowed to transfer money directly to their workers. So in order to reward them for overtime.etc they used to give them choco pies and other packaged food, which is hard to obtain in DPRK.
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i find it strange that they send chocopies to a country of people who are malnourished and starving. chocopies are not going to help.. give them something with more nutritional value.

Have you read the article?

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It was an act of rebellion against the alleged North Korean ban on the chocolate confections.


You can't send tons of food with balloons.
in 2013:
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The UN food body on Saturday said it had approved $200 million of food aid for North Korea, targeting the country's most vulnerable people who remain dependent on external assistance.

The World Food Programme (WFP) executive board has this week approved a new two-year operation for North Korea starting on July 1, WFP spokesman Marcus Prior said.

"It will target about 2.4 million people - almost all children, and pregnant and nursing women - with about 207,000 metric tons of food assistance at a cost of US$200 million," he said in an email to AFP.

Is that enough to help to a country which is constantly harassing you with it's military plans?

what about it? still doesnt' change the fact that if i'm sending "food" to starving people, it won't be chocolate pies.

no one is starving, these are stories from 1994 - 2000 being repeated in the media by anti dprk sources. in recent years north koreans have seen great improvements in their living standards under the guidance of leaders kim jong il and kim jong un.

do you work for the glorious leader kim jong un? because north korea is one of the poorest countries in the world.

Obviously you don't have a clue what a message means
This was a protest aimed at a ban against chocolate imposed by the north Korean government. Nobody claimed it was going to help starving people.

And before criticizing the move , how many kilos of food have you sent to NK?
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i find it strange that they send chocopies to a country of people who are malnourished and starving. chocopies are not going to help.. give them something with more nutritional value.

Have you read the article?

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It was an act of rebellion against the alleged North Korean ban on the chocolate confections.


You can't send tons of food with balloons.
in 2013:
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The UN food body on Saturday said it had approved $200 million of food aid for North Korea, targeting the country's most vulnerable people who remain dependent on external assistance.

The World Food Programme (WFP) executive board has this week approved a new two-year operation for North Korea starting on July 1, WFP spokesman Marcus Prior said.

"It will target about 2.4 million people - almost all children, and pregnant and nursing women - with about 207,000 metric tons of food assistance at a cost of US$200 million," he said in an email to AFP.

Is that enough to help to a country which is constantly harassing you with it's military plans?

what about it? still doesnt' change the fact that if i'm sending "food" to starving people, it won't be chocolate pies.

no one is starving, these are stories from 1994 - 2000 being repeated in the media by anti dprk sources. in recent years north koreans have seen great improvements in their living standards under the guidance of leaders kim jong il and kim jong un.

do you work for the glorious leader kim jong un? because north korea is one of the poorest countries in the world.
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