Topic: Space Race Wagers? - page 2. (Read 767 times)

I also the news before like 2 years ago, but I am not sure. The news features people who are being paid big amounts so that they could sleep for long hours and also live inside a capsule that would mimic a spaceship that will bring people to the planet Mars. These people will simply live inside the capsule for a few months and scientists will measure everything that they can measure, so that they could know what would be the effects of long term isolation of humans due to space travel. I have not heard of that as well and whether the results are encouraging or not.

Space had been one of my favorite places to explore and I have even wasted a lot of months learning the technicalities. But sadly, I have missed this topic but anyways just skimmed through some of the notable posters over in this topic. I play KSP a lot nowadays and roam around Space through Space Engine looking for a few brightly lit quasars in some far corners of our universe (just found 1 in my 2 year search).

I can confidently say that what ever we dream of or see in the sci-fi space movies like Interstellar is practically possible but all we need is that we need to be focused on the outer space all the time and must invest huge amount of money and resources to make that happen. So, if we are really in need to evacuate this planet as soon as possible probably in 2-3 centuries we wouldn't have a second thought other than sending humans to Mars within the next decade.

It was indeed possible for us to prove the "Newton's cannonball Experiment" mentioned in his "Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica" within 250 years of publishing. Similarly it would have taken only a 2-3 decades (from 1969) for us to land on Mars but the money wasn't totally spent on the space programs and we didn't hire as much engineers to make impossible things as possible within our reach. After wasting nearly 2 years in exploring outer space through Space Engine, I firmly believe there should be life somewhere in far off galaxies or in nearby superclusters. But what prevents us from contacting them is the technology which we have today or the life present there can either be a single celled organism or something like the Aliens which are shown in E.T or Independence Day movies.

Pretty much this TBH. Sometime by the end of next decade, we will be having Lunar Gateway (designed by Canada, Europe and Japan) rotating on top of Moon along with Rocket Fuel which will play a very huge role in Post Lunar Missions. Before landing on Mars, we would also be setting up a Moon Base. So, many of us would be watching the first step on Mars before our life ends if all goes exactly as planned and there is no removal of planned targets.

P.S Practically speaking based on the available facts, our Oort Cloud will be disturbed again in 240,000 and when this happens we will be having a large influx of comets targeting our inner Solar System. If this tends to pose a bigger danger for the humankind in future, we should be looking out for a new home.

I agree with you. Things like this are very difficult to predict. In fact, everything Musk says should be taken not literally, but figuratively, as hints of potential opportunities in the future.
It is important that people believe in him and his company, which leads to further investment and an increase in the chances of implementing his plans.
Plus, various technological breakthroughs can dictate the vector of the space race and the technological development of mankind as a whole.

This seems like most plausible way to get the first person on Mars. The more companies work together the higher our chances. I wish the world was evolving more and instead of thinking in terms of which country get to Mars first we would see all major space agencies to work together. The Chinese doing a lot of work with getting to the back site of the moon. Same with India, their space program is doing a lot of work too. If we could pool all this knowledge together we would be much further ahead as the human race.

Its incredibly hard to make a prediction of the growth of technology, and therefore our capabilities in the near future. So, although Elon Musk's predictions might seem a little far fetched, and don't get me wrong they are. I think it certainly might be possible in the lifetime of a few users on this forum.  Obviously, Elon is a businessman, and he knows how to make money. He knows that going on Joe Rogans podcast was a good move, and he knows exactly what to say to increase his sales. However, Elon does have a good track record of delivering what hes said he will do. Although, its usually a little longer than the initial prediction.

I don't personally believe there will be a singular effort in the space race, and sending the first people on mars. It will likely be a joint effort among the major companies. Elon will likely be given a contract by NASA, and NASA will work together with various other countries space teams. So, a space wager might be a little difficult to come up with if they were all going to contribute in some way of form. On the American point of view, NASA is probably the more experienced in manned missions, and SpaceX has been making good progress on the engineering pioneering such as the reusable rocket. There's loads of different companies though, and its hard to predict how much each will be involved, but I do believe there will be multiple involved.

Who knows what will happen in the future since we don't know what technology can happen? But if we see the technology right now, I think that it is possible to happen in the future because the technology itself is evolving to better technology. We can see that before we only watch the robot can serve us and help us to do something, but now, we see that we are close to that technology. So everything is possible in the future.

Elong says many things that he probably is already aware that are impossible. He went on Joe Rogan's show talking about some thermodynamically impossible feats with rocket powered cars and such... Dude knows people pump and dump stocks based on shit he says. He hypes up things like the hyperloop while being perfectly aware that they are impossible to do.
His statements on mars are especially dumb if you ask me. Colonization of mars is definitely something too far out of our reach currently.

I had to have a quiet chuckle when Elon Musk started babbling he's going to build a base on the Moon, then we're all off to Mars.  You could see his glib comments were spontaneous for the cameras.

Umm, want a direct answer? We are on a gambling discussion thread and we are not on politics thread or a philosophy thread or like a morality thread. We discuss the possibility of waging and betting who will go to Mars first. Almost impossible but achievable feat of mankind. Some of us just want to discuss more of the history of the space wars. If you want to discuss the morality of such an endeavor I suggest we move to politics or some other thread that caters to your question as to "Why we set distant goals outside our planet and try to solve problems here", not here. I like to wager please.

What purpose does this give? Fly off the planet?
We cannot get along on one planet full of resources, we are waging constant wars and strife. Wars are still going on, people are still starving. We cannot know what will happen tomorrow.
What if some Iran or North Korea will unleash a nuclear war, what good will Mars be for us? Where will you fly from a radioactive piece of earth?
Why should we set distant goals outside our planet when we can try to solve problems here and live in peace and prosperity. I cannot understand this.

What ever happened to that proposed reality TV program that was promising to send a crew to Mars (one way) with the landing / viewing as pay per view?

I disagree with this common argument. The conquest of space gives a goal to humanity and brings us all together. Furthermore it has been shown to disrupt technology.

Now I actually wondered if there was a bet if Elon Musk will succeed in making self-returning rocket propellers. The self-returning rocket propellers were a stuff of science fiction that came into reality and no one ever thought that it is possible. But since Elon Musk was able to pull it off then maybe anything is possible with the right minds and resources. If there was a bet that happened on this question then I'll be dammed. That is one hell of a bet and whoever won then must be so lucky.

I think the US is now number 1 in the space race. In any case, they have Elon Musk with his brilliant ideas.
In general, the idea of colonizing Mars seems pretty silly to me. Some countries cannot divide the land under their feet, some suffer from hunger and disease, the option of World War III is not excluded. And a huge amount of resources is spent on the development of dead space.

Yes you're right.
On Fairlay the closing date is in 30 months for this bet.
https://fairlay.com/market/organization-to-put-human-being-on-mars-first-26/

This topic amuses me very much.
The whole space race of the USA and China reminds me of the race of the USA against the USSR.

There is too much politics involved in such things.
It turns out that the results of the rates will be based on the official statements of the countries, but these statements themselves may be far from the truth.

NASA just launched yet another probe on its way to Mars overnight, so it's now a three horse race.  What would be interesting is if one or more of these rovers were set to land, survey then set out to rendezvous with each-other.

The betting part will depend on every countries dedication to push through this idea, it will be a long term plan and study making since they are really seeing the idea of living or using Mars, who ever do it again first will depend on each countries advanced technology, team and their government support. If only I knew someone from the team or will the propose time line is nearly feasible I will surely bet in these race.

Nowadays people make all things at betting, including mission to mars. What China and the UAE might do, for me that
kind of thing is too speculative. But go ahead if some people like it. But interesting too Gambling is not currently limited
to sports or casino games right now, but many things can be used as betting.

I think to create a colony on Mars will take a very long time and of course it still needs a lot of observations about this Mars, because so far we don't know for sure how the conditions of Mars are suitable for life on earth or not, I see how far they are the astronauts are still observing it not too far away, and the most important thing is there must be a spring to survive for humanity.