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Quote from: Welsh on June 24, 2022, 03:13:11 PM

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24. Advertisements (including signatures within the post area) in posts aren't allowed unless the post is in a thread you started and is really substantial and useful.[9][e]

In reality, these sort of posts are probably touching upon a few of the guidelines, but I generally believe guidelines 24, is the best example case here.

With the issue with user HumanityWhole haven't been extensively discussed, it is our hope not to see the likes of this posting pattern that centers on advertising a blog site with little or no interest in some active discussion and participation on the bitcointalk forum and posts that are done within minutes interval in a way that it raises concerns. Be that as it may, haven't handled this issue following rule/guideline 24. as interpreted by a forum staff @Welsh, we have avail to us a way of tackling and referencing future occurances.

In that regard, I ca say the thread has archived its aim and would like to hacken to the call of The Cryptovator

Quote from: The Cryptovator on July 01, 2022, 02:36:11 PM

You may lock 🔐 the topic now since it has been solved.

and would be locking this thread in 24hours. In the meantime, I give room to any further notations on the case.

Edited: It's 24hours gone so, I guess I'll have to proceed and lock the thread. Let's keep the forum safe and clean. Nice one guys!

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Seems spammer has been nuked. Thanks for helping clean the forum. For the next time, you may use simply the report button and request moderators to check his post history in the comment section. So moderators will check and take appropriate action. Or you may directly DM the Global moderators to take immediate action, especially in this type of case where OP tries to promote something.

You may lock 🔐 the topic now since it has been solved.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 27, 2022, 12:05:36 PM

To be very honest, we have sections like off-topic and Politics & Society where we can discuss this stuff while remaining on the bitcoin forum.
If the OP had only one thread, i am sure no one would have deleted that topic and there would have been people replying to the OP. However, since he was spamming his links by creating multiple similar threads, he got nuked with all his threads deleted.

Right, the account wasn't nuked for the type of content being posted, i.e what others might consider as a load of rubbish, it was more about the way they were doing it. Advertising, and then spamming a number of threads in close succession, with the sole aim to advertise. I didn't have a problem with the topics at hand, from a moderation point of view.

I do think these types of topics create a divide in the community, based on the believability factor, absolutely wasn't taken into consideration when the threads were first removed or when the account was finally nuked.

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 27, 2022, 10:46:35 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on June 27, 2022, 09:57:09 AM

Luckily in those deleted threads, no one posted or replied as usually it is unfair for those posters who post good in those threads but later found out that the whole thread is gone along with their posts.

I am not sure what kind of posts and quality content you can generate in threads that discuss ways to become a god or reptilian, or his nonsense tips about immortality and the other types of unnecessary noise he was creating. Anyone discussing such things and relying on those posts to remain on a Bitcoin forum shouldn't be surprised if they notice plenty of post deletions.

To be very honest, we have sections like off-topic and Politics & Society where we can discuss this stuff while remaining on the bitcoin forum.
If the OP had only one thread, i am sure no one would have deleted that topic and there would have been people replying to the OP. However, since he was spamming his links by creating multiple similar threads, he got nuked with all his threads deleted.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 27, 2022, 09:57:09 AM

Luckily in those deleted threads, no one posted or replied as usually it is unfair for those posters who post good in those threads but later found out that the whole thread is gone along with their posts.

I am not sure what kind of posts and quality content you can generate in threads that discuss ways to become a god or reptilian, or his nonsense tips about immortality and the other types of unnecessary noise he was creating. Anyone discussing such things and relying on those posts to remain on a Bitcoin forum shouldn't be surprised if they notice plenty of post deletions.

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Quote from: Welsh on June 26, 2022, 07:36:13 AM

Quote from: Pmalek on June 26, 2022, 02:32:18 AM

He is at it again. This morning he created another copy-pasted thread from his shitwhole blog. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5404097
He obviously doesn't want to stop and it could be time to start looking at a temporary ban or just nuke him altogether. Bitcointalk is obviously his advertisement platform. This person isn't interested in contributing to the forum in any way.

Yeah, nuked. Thought I was more than fair, removed the threads, gave them a warning via PM, however it's quite evident they don't want to contribute, but simply want to use the forum as a place to advertise. Anyway, I expect we'll see a alt account in the coming days to post, so if seen just report them.

It will be easy to spot that alt account as that account will be using the same domain name url in his post, so there is zero chance for him to continue his spam actions again.

Luckily in those deleted threads, no one posted or replied as usually it is unfair for those posters who post good in those threads but later found out that the whole thread is gone along with their posts.

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Quote from: Z-tight on June 26, 2022, 04:25:01 AM

Quote from: theymos on January 11, 2018, 02:39:04 PM

In response to the annoying PM spam, you now have to opt into receiving PMs from newbies. The option is in your PM preferences. You also can't send PMs to newbies if you haven't opted in.

If you opt out of Newbies sending you PM's, then you can't also send them PM's.

I honestly didn't know that. You live and learn I guess. The feature in the Personal Message Options only says "Allow newbies to send you PMs." I think theymos could have written it more clearly so everyone knows that if you tick the option, newbies won't be able to PM you, but you will also not be able to PM any newbies. You only get the complete picture if you read the thread he wrote.

Quote from: Welsh on June 26, 2022, 07:36:13 AM

Yeah, nuked. Thought I was more than fair, removed the threads, gave them a warning via PM, however it's quite evident they don't want to contribute, but simply want to use the forum as a place to advertise.

Good call! If he isn't a bot, maybe we will see a complaint from the user in Meta soon. We haven't had one of those in a while.

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 26, 2022, 02:32:18 AM

He is at it again. This morning he created another copy-pasted thread from his shitwhole blog. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5404097
He obviously doesn't want to stop and it could be time to start looking at a temporary ban or just nuke him altogether. Bitcointalk is obviously his advertisement platform. This person isn't interested in contributing to the forum in any way.

Yeah, nuked. Thought I was more than fair, removed the threads, gave them a warning via PM, however it's quite evident they don't want to contribute, but simply want to use the forum as a place to advertise. Anyway, I expect we'll see a alt account in the coming days to post, so if seen just report them.

Quote from: _BlackStar on June 25, 2022, 01:06:03 PM

All messages sent to his inbox will tell him why all the posts were deleted. So no special effort is needed for it. Wink

I do believe removal of a thread, doesn't actually give you a notice via your personal messages. Although, I messaged them personally. So, they should have got the warning regardless. Who knows, they might just be using automation to post these articles.

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Quote from: avp2306 on June 26, 2022, 04:27:55 AM

This is how newbies try to fish some merits because they think once they open up a topic many members will give some merits to the topic they open up here. So for this its better to report it to moderator for them to asses this kind of action they made.

This unusual way but really possible. Most newbie that do merit bait are targetting beginner's and help section and post there tips and experience. I'm not a fan of Politics board but that's the board that has low chance for you to get some merit especially if you are just starting a copy paste news or political topics

You are right. The problem of the spammer discussed here is not merit. Though I am not a fan of politics and society board. But that's not a board that gives out many merits. The first time I visited that board I understood that it was too vast. Infact some topics that ought to be off topic makes P&S board their aboard. It is just the posts of the old members of this forum that keeps the board valuable till date.

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he might be just fishing merit or starting new thread for his alt account have a post quota.

Can you explain to me how creating numerous topics in one account will give the alt account post quota?
Meanwhile, if it's about this topic, the spammer was promoting his off forum site and that is why he doesn't forget to link all his topics to the website

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on June 24, 2022, 07:06:58 AM

Hi meta

I discovered this user HumanityWhole that seems to be rather more frequent on the Politics and Society board. Apparently this user seems to own a blog site which I don't want to reference to avoid promotion of the site as I think that's part of his or her intent for chosen post pattern but, the user tends to create more topic than necessary. Talking about abstract things, infinite existence, immortality and lots more. Just imagine what his doing to the Politics and Society board!

Is this allowed?

How can a single individual have over 12 threads on a single page that is supposed to hold a total of 38 threads and most of this posts are pasted on the forum the same day (within the range of 3 days). User gives no concern to contributions on the subject as to other users contributions and even with almost zero(0) replis on most of them, the user continues to create more threads. Perhaps, the intent is just to get clicks on referenced links.

It's one way to promote spam if you ask me and somehow, user tends to be the host. Although, due to its abstract nature, its not getting much attention but, that might not be for long.
I explained my displeasure in one, only to note several others.
Perhaps it's some new way to do some cheap click advertising. What's your take on this?

This is how newbies try to fish some merits because they think once they open up a topic many members will give some merits to the topic they open up here. So for this its better to report it to moderator for them to asses this kind of action they made.

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 25, 2022, 10:38:27 AM

There is no such option in the profile settings. You can only allow or disallow newbies to send you PMs, but that doesn't affect your permissions to PM them. If your settings don't allow newbies to PM you, you can still PM them. Each user can customize their own ignore list though, which allows you to add any user whose PMs you don't want to receive. I don't know why that user would add you to his ignore list if you never interacted with each other before.

That is not correct Pmalek, look at Theymos' post on it:

Quote from: theymos on January 11, 2018, 02:39:04 PM

In response to the annoying PM spam, you now have to opt into receiving PMs from newbies. The option is in your PM preferences. You also can't send PMs to newbies if you haven't opted in.

If you opt out of Newbies sending you PM's, then you can't also send them PM's.

Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on June 26, 2022, 03:14:45 AM

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User 'HumanityWhole' is a newbie, but your options are set such that you cannot receive PMs from newbies. Therefore, you cannot send PMs to newbies, either.

This is why you are getting that message:

Quote from: theymos on January 12, 2018, 01:00:25 PM

And if you try to PM a newbie while you're ignoring newbies, you get:

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User _____ is a newbie, but your options are set such that you cannot receive PMs from newbies. Therefore, you cannot send PMs to newbies, either.

So if you want to PM this user, you have to opt in to receive PM's from newbies, otherwise you cannot. Check the thread: Newbie Pm opt-in

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 25, 2022, 10:38:27 AM

Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on June 25, 2022, 08:38:21 AM

Anyway, I tried sending out a PM so the user could understand what is at play and perhaps bring his or her attention to this thread but, forum default system doesn't allow PM between newbies and ranked members.

There is no such option in the profile settings. You can only allow or disallow newbies to send you PMs, but that doesn't affect your permissions to PM them. If your settings don't allow newbies to PM you, you can still PM them. Each user can customize their own ignore list though, which allows you to add any user whose PMs you don't want to receive. I don't know why that user would add you to his ignore list if you never interacted with each other before.

Perhaps there might have been a settings but, am sure its not from my end, it must have come by default as I've not tried using any of those functions before and my prior knowledge of the forum leaves me with the idea that newbies aren't allowed to send pm to ranked users and I think that accounts for this:

I don't know if you could see this but it reads:

Quote from: Pmalek on June 26, 2022, 02:32:18 AM

He is at it again. This morning he created another copy-pasted thread from his shitwhole blog. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5404097
He obviously doesn't want to stop and it could be time to start looking at a temporary ban or just nuke him altogether. Bitcointalk is obviously his advertisement platform. This person isn't interested in contributing to the forum in any way.

Following is recent display of laxity to warnings, it shows hes not paying attention to whatever is going on here and ought to be called to order using means that even him or her can't resist. It's so uncool!

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He is at it again. This morning he created another copy-pasted thread from his shitwhole blog. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5404097
He obviously doesn't want to stop and it could be time to start looking at a temporary ban or just nuke him altogether. Bitcointalk is obviously his advertisement platform. This person isn't interested in contributing to the forum in any way.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 25, 2022, 02:40:09 AM

42 posts of "HumanityWhole" has been deleted by mods till now (Source https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3483526 ), however, he has made four new threads today repeating the same pattern with his site link in each of those four threads.

Right, I know that and check it regularly as I've reported it to the mod. But since HumanityWhole is still doing it since all previous posts were deleted then I think further action has been taken by the mod ^{[temporary ban likely].} If so, only mods will know.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 25, 2022, 02:40:09 AM

Either someone needs to tell him whats wrong he is doing (if he is not aware of the rules) or a temp ban should be an eye-opener for him.

All messages sent to his inbox will tell him why all the posts were deleted. So no special effort is needed for it. Wink

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on June 25, 2022, 08:38:21 AM

Anyway, I tried sending out a PM so the user could understand what is at play and perhaps bring his or her attention to this thread but, forum default system doesn't allow PM between newbies and ranked members.

There is no such option in the profile settings. You can only allow or disallow newbies to send you PMs, but that doesn't affect your permissions to PM them. If your settings don't allow newbies to PM you, you can still PM them. Each user can customize their own ignore list though, which allows you to add any user whose PMs you don't want to receive. I don't know why that user would add you to his ignore list if you never interacted with each other before.

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 25, 2022, 05:22:16 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on June 24, 2022, 04:37:27 PM

You could make the same argument about LoyceV in the Meta section and pushing his statistics site on users here.

I don't think those two are comparable. LoyceV makes a lot of effort in the threads and services he creates and runs for free, while that Humanity dude (or whatever) creates nothing of importance. Unless you feel Bitcointalk is the place to talk about reptilian Gods or the top 5 ways to turn your life around to become the overlord.

I agree with you @Pmalek. Comparing LoyceV to this fellow is just something inconceivable. Like, LoyceV, for real? I don't know how you come up with that but, it goes beyond having threads on display in the Meta. Meta speaks about improvements on the forum amongst
others and most of LoyceV's thread does just that. Making comparison and speculative data on individuals/groups alike and these have proven useful in many aspects to a lot of users on the forum. Most of all, these aren't a days job neither do they seek traffic for its site.
The case is different for HumanityWhole as without any bias on my side, he's clearly off the part feeling super human already, don't care if the threads are getting responses and seeks to generate traffic on blogs site, off the forum!

Quote from: Welsh on June 25, 2022, 07:46:33 AM

I think I'm being fair maybe overly so, I've removed the threads again, in the end there was 6 by the time I logged back on. Then, I've messaged them with a link to the guidelines, and a brief message about what's happened i.e thread removal, and specifically why.

See what happens from here on out.

I think that's fair as one could be and I most say, I like the serenity of his profile, lol. Anyway, I tried sending out a PM so the user could understand what is at play and perhaps bring his or her attention to this thread but, forum default system doesn't allow PM between newbies and ranked members.

Welsh have done the most and let's hope the user understands enough to fall in line.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 25, 2022, 02:40:09 AM

however, he has made four new threads today repeating the same pattern with his site link in each of those four threads. Either someone needs to tell him whats wrong he is doing (if he is not aware of the rules) or a temp ban should be an eye-opener for him. I don't think he will be getting a lot of traffic by this act of spamming.

I think I'm being fair maybe overly so, I've removed the threads again, in the end there was 6 by the time I logged back on. Then, I've messaged them with a link to the guidelines, and a brief message about what's happened i.e thread removal, and specifically why.

See what happens from here on out.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 24, 2022, 04:37:27 PM

You could make the same argument about LoyceV in the Meta section and pushing his statistics site on users here. One might think there doesn't need to be a different topic for every single statistic listed on the site, but who really cares if people want to merit hunt by making lots of threads.

I don't think those two are comparable. LoyceV makes a lot of effort in the threads and services he creates and runs for free, while that Humanity dude (or whatever) creates nothing of importance. Unless you feel Bitcointalk is the place to talk about reptilian Gods or the top 5 ways to turn your life around to become the overlord. Take a look at the most recent copy-pasted nonsense for today. He will be temp banned pretty soon.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 25, 2022, 02:40:09 AM

Quote from: _BlackStar on June 24, 2022, 03:47:59 PM

Quote from: Welsh on June 24, 2022, 03:13:11 PM

I know they've used it as sort of "oh look: source", but my interpretation that doesn't mean you can spam, for the sole intent of getting visitors on your site. In reality, these sort of posts are probably touching upon a few of the guidelines, but I generally believe guidelines 24, is the best example case here.

So you've deleted everything? The profile looks clean now.
I also want to know is it worth it for that user to get a temporary ban or permanent ban once the main purpose of posting the link is known?

42 posts of "HumanityWhole" has been deleted by mods till now (Source https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3483526 ), however, he has made four new threads today repeating the same pattern with his site link in each of those four threads. Either someone needs to tell him whats wrong he is doing (if he is not aware of the rules) or a temp ban should be an eye-opener for him. I don't think he will be getting a lot of traffic by this act of spamming.

That's good if other threads of this user has been deleted but it's more good if he stop doing such useless topic in Politcal and society. Not just him/her doing such trash Thread but also many user out there. Maybe he came to the forum without reading the rules and regulations that's why this will happen. But he need to stop this in order to prevent perma immanent or temporary banned here in forum. For now let's help to our moderators lets report this kind of users.

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Simply reported these guys and thats it. Cant stop creating multiple boards unless those users got reported and mods take a ban hammer on them termporary or depends on the gravity of spamming. Since its in the official rule can easily banned them. But its gonna be worthless since they can just create a new account after that.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 25, 2022, 02:40:09 AM

temp ban should be an eye-opener for him. I don't think he will be getting a lot of traffic by this act of spamming.

Probably he will just create new one and do it again. So I think there should be an alternative solution to it that might help in decreasing spammers. (of course reporting but Im thinking an extensive one limiting those users or restricting their post allowed something like that, depends on rank or level of their posting and contribution).

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