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vip
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January 27, 2017, 10:43:23 PM
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https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/man-accidentally-makes-13-million-buying-house-bitcoin/

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According to the numbers provided by Singh, the buyer of the home was left with an extra $1.3 million after the purchase of the home.

“With that extra money, he went and bought a Lamborghini at Newport Beach, Orange County, which also accepts bitcoin with Bitpay,” added Singh. “He got a house for pretty much 25 percent cheaper, as well as a free Lamborghini essentially.”

That's interesting!

Timeline:

Anonymous dude flushed with bitcoins wants to purchase $4M home via bitcoins.
Anonymous dude ask anonymous broker if he, seller and/or respective banks can process a bitcoin payment.
Anonymous broker needed to get up to speed so he contacts Sonny Singh of Bitpay.
Anonymous broker is satisfied and allows the bitcoin dealing to go through some time later, of which during the interim bitcoin price was on a tear.
Anonymous purchasing dude doles out less bitcoins then originally thought he would, so he opts to purchase a Lamborghini because the garage was empty.
Shortly thereafter, Sonny Singh proclaims to the world about how one, now two of Bitpay's clients sold and purchased a $4M home via bitcoins. Further, Sonny let's the world know more about Bitpay's client by stating that the anonymous dude purchased a Lamborghini also with bitcoins using Bitpay as the third-person payment provider from the Lamborghini dealership that accepts bitcoins.

Now, if you went to your local bank and took out a loan for some abstract purchase, and later in the day while at some restaurant you overhear a conversation between two unknowns speaking about said abstract purchase by some anonymous dude unbeknownst to them, you would be highly pissed and be on the phone contacting your lawyer because the only people privy to the transaction were you and your banker, with the former owner of the abstract residing in some foreign country, thus eliminating him or her from the equation of leaking said purchase.

Yet, here we have the Bitpay CCO during exactly such that, thinking that speaking of the parties anonymously protects their identity. Well, I got some sad news to report to you, Sunshine. Thanks to the blockchain and the timeframes alluded to, I'm now the proud owner of the txID and am 99% certain as to who the purchaser is, again, all thanks to blabbermouth Sonny Singh. And, if I can uncover such with my rudimentary skills, imagine what some others could do with better forensic tools at their disposal. Imagine further if such a person were nefarious actor with some major ill-intent in mind. Get the picture?

To be clear, THERE IS NO WAY IN MOTHERFUCKIN HELL THAT SONNY SIGNH, BITPAY'S CCO, SHOULD'VE EXPRESSED ANY FUCKIN THING ABOUT A SINGLE CLIENT OF THEIRS OUTTA FEAR OF CAUSING THEM UNDUE HARM. If some subordinate employee of Bitpay were caught disclosing vitals of a client no matter how mundane, they would, or should be immediately terminated. If not, they Bitpay would have some major explaining to do. Oh, wait! They now have some MEGA explaining to do thanks, again, to blabbermouth Sonny Signh.

On a side note, I wonder what Block Pierce has been doing lately there in Hermosa I mean LA (speaking of Hermosa I mean LA).
legendary
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January 27, 2017, 09:35:25 PM
#5
Had to read it twice to see how did the owner "made profit"... I guess you can understand things like Bitcoin Magazine did if you distance yourself a bit from what you know about Bitcoin Cheesy

Good thing is that at least this is news on a positive tone and I guess there's no way for mainstream media to take this and diss on Bitcoin Roll Eyes

So there wasn't any margin that he made there wasn't profit he just had to spend less bitcoins because the price rose. Wtf that's like saying if you buy a house @ $1000 then bitcoins dropped to $800 you lost $1million. It doesn't really make sense. He got a good deal but he took all of the risk so obviously he deserves the "profit". If someone had invested in some random stock and made 20% in a few weeks then bought a house you would never hear about it hahaha!
vip
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January 27, 2017, 09:11:37 PM
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Back to sensationalized news, remember the following article back in the day?

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11283333.htm

BF Labs, Inc. Processes $1 Million Bitcoin Merchant Transaction for Institutional Bitcoin Mining Hardware Purchase

Butterfly Labs Announces $1 Million Down-Payment on Multi-Million Dollar Order for Next Generation Bitcoin Mining Hardware. Deposit will help enable production of innovative 28nm Monarch card.

">https://blockchain.info/tx/1b6ea350c094071412df1f801651263fd65ffa0b89ad6c8626ceeca8755f50bc>



According to the press release, the $1M USD that HashTrade supposedly paid BFL stemming from 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs was paid to BitPay's wallet address 16fus1FKurpDmPtEZLGbg7vRYtH2TEFbYf.

ONLY 16 hours later, that same $1M USD equaling 5,562.354 BTC had 437.646 BTC added to it, and a new wallet - 1EXDF4fvjRozJ96TjF4SPN7rbTx2ik6Dsd - was created to store 6,000 BTC that has been untouched to this very day, as seen here: https://blockchain.info/tx/ff0fb375a2375b2b9ee7e8daa5759085d8fe8cd85280a97b1dfbb14005f36153, and further illustrated with...



Again, nary a tx fee was paid to the miners, proof with the following:



Note the confirmation time: Only ~11 minutes to get the tx confirmed with nary a fee. I say that's an impossibility for HashTrade to transfer a million dollars worth of BTC to BFL via BitPay if they do indeed maintain the 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs bitcoin wallet address, of which I'm 100% confident they DO NOT!

BFL/Sonny Vleisides owns the 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs bitcoin wallet address, as well as the 1EXDF4fvjRozJ96TjF4SPN7rbTx2ik6Dsd BWA, for all the bitcoins that make up the 437.646 BTC to round the wallet up to 6,000 BTC also stemmed from BFL.

BitPay may very well control the 16fus1FKurpDmPtEZLGbg7vRYtH2TEFbYf BWA used to funnel the infamous $1M USD from supposedly HashTrade to BFL, but, again, I contend that said funds were redirected back to BFL's control via parameters they set on their BitPay account.

The only thing that puzzles me now is how if BitPay was used as the payment service provider for the $1M USD transaction, why were no tx fees accrued?

To recap...

Sonny Vleisides owned the 1Hq2t6dJcxqZjGda919p4c4tmopNRLciAJ BWA.

Thousands of transactions from BFL ended up going to 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs.

1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs was claimed to be owned by HashTrade to pay the $1M USD down payment for BFL Monarchs.

The $1M USD payment from 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs plus other transactions stemming from BFL totally 6,000 BTC went to the 1EXDF4fvjRozJ96TjF4SPN7rbTx2ik6Dsd BWA after one hop, supposedly BitPay's BWA 16fus1FKurpDmPtEZLGbg7vRYtH2TEFbYf.

http://www.hashtrade.com/about.html

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CoinWare and HashTrade have received substantial venture capital investment from the Jacobson Brothers, in order to help establish these emerging businesses, ensure that they have a strong foundation and secure all the capital equipment necessary to deliver the data processing services that the different business models require.

The Jacobson brothers own the Canadian Bitcoin Embassy and the Miami Bitcoin Embassy, both entities that the Bitcoin Development Fund donated 25 BTC to, of which they, too, have yet to liquidate as seen here: https://blockchain.info/address/1LAT5Zzf12cZqDy86ee2mcWhNZpk9DLf1D. Furthermore, I can easily show other BFL moneys flowing to this very address, not to mention from pools closely aligned with BFL.

All that said, which Bitcoin-themed periodical is going to be the first to publish this revelation? And, why haven't nary a one uncovered any of this before?

~Bruno Kucinskas

1-27-17 footnote: Note that the $5.5M+ worth of  6,000+ BTC have yet been moved: https://blockchain.info/address/1EXDF4fvjRozJ96TjF4SPN7rbTx2ik6Dsd
vip
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January 27, 2017, 08:14:12 PM
#3
Had to read it twice to see how did the owner "made profit"... I guess you can understand things like Bitcoin Magazine did if you distance yourself a bit from what you know about Bitcoin Cheesy

Good thing is that at least this is news on a positive tone and I guess there's no way for mainstream media to take this and diss on Bitcoin Roll Eyes

So true! No way in hell could mainstream media diss a phantom broker and phantom buyer conducting a phantom deal involving bitcoins where a phantom amount of profit was made thanks to a meteoric rise in the exchange rate due to collusion among manipulated chinese cryptocurrency exchanges. Viva el RateCoin!
legendary
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January 27, 2017, 07:48:39 PM
#2
Had to read it twice to see how did the owner "made profit"... I guess you can understand things like Bitcoin Magazine did if you distance yourself a bit from what you know about Bitcoin Cheesy

Good thing is that at least this is news on a positive tone and I guess there's no way for mainstream media to take this and diss on Bitcoin Roll Eyes
vip
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Merit: 1145
January 27, 2017, 07:40:20 PM
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https://thenextweb.com/money/2017/01/27/bitcoin-buyer-house-profit/ (a rehash of https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/man-accidentally-makes-13-million-buying-house-bitcoin/ as the screenshot demonstrates)



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While Bitcoin has starred in a series of horror stories about wasted retirement funds and lost fortunes due to its notorious unpredictability, one man from California lucked out big time on his recent house purchase – and all thanks to the popular cryptocurrency.

Speaking to Bloomberg Markets, Bitpay CCO Sonny Singh told an intriguing story how Bitcoin’s volatility accidentally helped the buyer in question take home a profit of approximately $1.3 million during the exchange from the cryptocurrency to American dollars.

Singh and his company were recently approached by a real estate developer that received an offer from a prospective buyer who expressed a preference to pay in Bitcoin. After walking him through the peculiarities of the transaction, the two parties eventually reached an agreement for the estate, which was valued at around $4 million at the time.

But here’s the thing: While the cryptocurrency was worth a mere $750 when the transaction was originally initiated, by the end of the transfer Bitcoin had surged up to over $1000, earning him a profit of more than a million dollars.

“The buyer actually ended up making about 25 percent in the currency exchange rate, essentially, in the appreciation,” Singh said. “He got a house for pretty much 25 percent cheaper.”

While the cryptocurrency continues to remain on the verge of mainstream adoption due to its highly unstable rates, the technology is gradually starting to make its way to the masses. Not too long ago, Japan became one of the first countries to introduce a service that allows users to pay their utility bills in Bitcoin.

TO BE CLEAR, the buyer DID NOT make a profit off the purchase for his $4M home. He merely had to allocate less bitcoins that he owned for the purchase, retaining more bitcoins in his coffer than if purchasing at an earlier timeframe. Same true if he had expressed to the phantom broker that he desired to pay with gold valued at $750 per ounce, but once the papers were all signed for the accepted transaction, gold climbed to $1,000 per ounce, thus allowing him to spend less gold than originally planned. THAT IS ALL! Otherwise WE ALL can say that at some time we, too. incurred a lost of X% when bitcoins were trading for less after we ordered our cups of java, having to dole out $4.25 per cup oppose to only $3.99 when we first considering ordering the damn thing thanks to waiting in the long line of people willing to make and pay for purchases with their worthless fiat.

In essence, this is non-story by Bitcoin Magazine designed to garner eyeballs, then picked up by The Next Web, both of which should know a sensationalized story when they read it - unless ...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-torpey-59687442/

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Moved to Inside Bitcoins in August 2014, and eventually became the Editor-in-Chief on two separate occasions (Bitcoinist took over an editorial role there for a bit through a media partnership with Inside Bitcoins).

My bad! Looks like Kyle was ONLY an Editor-in-Chief a couple times, hence now giving him a pass for publishing a sensationalized story that MAY HAVE slipped by Bitcoin Magazine's Editor-in-Chief because he was stuck in some coffee line with bitcoins in hand when the article's deadline for submission came to pass.

Bruno
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