Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts

DublinBrian

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Quote from: Vladimir on July 28, 2012, 01:37:19 AM

That is simple. They are a part of the scam and they see new threads and any mention of ponzi as an attack shortening longevity and magnitude of their scam. What they are doing is a p2p ponzi and they are effectively co-conspirators. This goes for all those intermediaries, which I see personally as scams that are as bad as the ponzi itself. This goes to all those who decided to gamble while being fully aware of this being ponzi and who are here on forum with a marketing mission of promoting their scam because they benefit from this (by defrauding others).

+1

All cons need shills. Pirate has quite a few shills working hard for him, on the forum.

Note what wikipedia says about shills

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Shilling is illegal in many circumstances and in many jurisdictions[1] because of the potential for fraud and damage.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 03:30:58 AM

Wow....I just saw that post Pirate made about lifting the referral requirement to deposit BTC in a savings account with him.

That has "I need more bitcoins because I suck at trading and need to pay off the old investors" all over it.

Let's open the door for more suckers to send me bitcoins

Any idea when this "meet-up" is supposed to be occuring?

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Wow....I just saw that post Pirate made about lifting the referral requirement to deposit BTC in a savings account with him.

That has "I need more bitcoins because I suck at trading and need to pay off the old investors" all over it.

Let's open the door for more suckers to send me bitcoins

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Wat

Quote from: Vladimir on July 28, 2012, 01:37:19 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 27, 2012, 09:47:14 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Ugh, how many of these bloody threads do we need!! If the mods in this place were chosen for their mod skills rather than their trolling ability we'd just consolidate the million other threads on this subject into one, like any other normal forum would.

Why do people get so pissy about threads?

That is simple. They are a part of the scam and they see new threads and any mention of ponzi as an attack shortening longevity and magnitude of their scam. What they are doing is a p2p ponzi and they are effectively co-conspirators. This goes for all those intermediaries, which I see personally as scams that are as bad as the ponzi itself. This goes to all those who decided to gamble while being fully aware of this being ponzi and who are here on forum with a marketing mission of promoting their scam because they benefit from this (by defrauding others).

We see here p2p technology and principles applied in attempt to dillute guilt.

This is simple. Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud and all those who promote it, including, operators of various intermediate "investment" vehicles and other promotes of ponzis are in my opinion as guilty of fraud as the direct operators of the ponzi scheme.

Now here is a very high chance of imminent collapse of a ponzi scheme with lots of things pointing to this. The sooner the better.

Im guessing there will be a lot of "scammer" labels applied once it collapses.

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Strength in numbers

Does that post mean that the 500BTC 'trust deposit' is no longer required?

Also, way to go on making another pirate thread, I never would have thought to do that!

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Quote from: humanitee on July 28, 2012, 01:17:40 AM

Furthermore, there is already a thread on this subject here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91508.200

Literally every item in smoothies list above has been discussed on this forum, ad nauseum. His post brings absolutely nothing new to the table. That thread is less than 8 days old, this discussion belongs there.

That may well be true, I was only disagreeing with your second point.

Quote from: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 02:07:21 AM

Where can I find evidence of this?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1048502

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Quote from: bitcoinBull on July 27, 2012, 09:39:40 PM

Right before his supposed meet-up, he opens the "trust" to anyone, no referral/invite necessary. LOL

Looking forward to a bunch of posts from people wondering about their withdrawals... poor saps Roll Eyes

Where can I find evidence of this?

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Quote from: RoloTonyBrownTown on July 27, 2012, 09:49:29 PM

EDIT: Screw it, I'll just report the thread, see if anything comes of it (who am I kidding).

Two things I noticed about you:

1. You erased your original post in this thread.

2. Your signature says it all. You dont think pirate will default and given that you dont like having people put up logical arguments that support him defaulting/running....you pull the "oh not another thread" argument.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 27, 2012, 09:47:14 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Ugh, how many of these bloody threads do we need!! If the mods in this place were chosen for their mod skills rather than their trolling ability we'd just consolidate the million other threads on this subject into one, like any other normal forum would.

Why do people get so pissy about threads?

That is simple. They are a part of the scam and they see new threads and any mention of ponzi as an attack shortening longevity and magnitude of their scam. What they are doing is a p2p ponzi and they are effectively co-conspirators. This goes for all those intermediaries, which I see personally as scams that are as bad as the ponzi itself. This goes to all those who decided to gamble while being fully aware of this being ponzi and who are here on forum with a marketing mission of promoting their scam because they benefit from this (by defrauding others).

We see here p2p technology and principles applied in attempt to dillute guilt.

This is simple. Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud and all those who promote it, including, operators of various intermediate "investment" vehicles and other promotes of ponzis are in my opinion as guilty of fraud as the direct operators of the ponzi scheme.

Now here is a very high chance of imminent collapse of a ponzi scheme with lots of things pointing to this. The sooner the better.

humanitee

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Yeah but his post doesn't address pirate's operation in relation to the price of Bitcoin. Furthermore, there is already a thread on this subject here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91508.200

Literally every item in smoothies list above has been discussed on this forum, ad nauseum. His post brings absolutely nothing new to the table. That thread is less than 8 days old, this discussion belongs there.

btcprophet

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Quote from: notme on July 28, 2012, 12:11:29 AM

You're right, but it is subtitled "Speculation about the Bitcoin price"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=7.0

I'd say that someone with rumored 250k of BTC and god knows how many USD in the market is very much relevant to the price of Bitcoin...

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Quote from: notme on July 28, 2012, 12:11:29 AM

You're right, but it is subtitled "Speculation about the Bitcoin price"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=7.0

Didn't see that because I never go under economics.

Oh well...mods haven't mad a fuss about all the previous posts....

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You're right, but it is subtitled "Speculation about the Bitcoin price"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=7.0

smoothie

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Quote from: humanitee on July 27, 2012, 11:23:25 PM

Quote from: smoothie on July 27, 2012, 09:47:14 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Ugh, how many of these bloody threads do we need!! If the mods in this place were chosen for their mod skills rather than their trolling ability we'd just consolidate the million other threads on this subject into one, like any other normal forum would.

Why do people get so pissy about threads?

I can understand getting mad about an asshole cutting you off on the road but a thread on a FORUM!?!?!?!?!

OMG it's the end of the world.

Shocked

Because:
1) There are already SO MANY POSTS about this subject. When pirate changed his rates, there were at least 6 threads simultaneously occurring on this forums all talking about it. It is/was too hard to keep up with the topic because it was ongoing in too many places at one time. The mods did a horrible job of locking/redirecting threads, and in my mind continue to do so (no offense mods, my two cents).
2) This subforum is for speculating ON THE PRICE OF BITCOIN. I wish the mods would either enforce that or change the description of this subforum. Can I speculate on whether or not pirate's next fart is going to stink? I hope not.
3) Unnecessary clutter is unnecessary.

Rolo is totally right. Every other forum I've been on would have consolidated all these threads into one in a heartbeat.

I dont see this subforum called "The price speculation of bitcoin"..........Under economy -> Speculation

Unnecessary whining is unnecessary.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 27, 2012, 09:47:14 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Ugh, how many of these bloody threads do we need!! If the mods in this place were chosen for their mod skills rather than their trolling ability we'd just consolidate the million other threads on this subject into one, like any other normal forum would.

Why do people get so pissy about threads?

I can understand getting mad about an asshole cutting you off on the road but a thread on a FORUM!?!?!?!?!

OMG it's the end of the world.

Shocked

Because:
1) There are already SO MANY POSTS about this subject. When pirate changed his rates, there were at least 6 threads simultaneously occurring on this forums all talking about it. It is/was too hard to keep up with the topic because it was ongoing in too many places at one time. The mods did a horrible job of locking/redirecting threads, and in my mind continue to do so (no offense mods, my two cents).
2) This subforum is for speculating ON THE PRICE OF BITCOIN. I wish the mods would either enforce that or change the description of this subforum. Can I speculate on whether or not pirate's next fart is going to stink? I hope not.
3) Unnecessary clutter is unnecessary.

Rolo is totally right. Every other forum I've been on would have consolidated all these threads into one in a heartbeat.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 27, 2012, 09:31:04 PM

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Don't be surprised if PPT/Pirate/BS&T joins the names like MyBitcoin.com and Bitcoinica.

My one comment: The chances of the above happening increases with every increase of the BTC / USD exchange rate.

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Quote from: RoloTonyBrownTown on July 27, 2012, 09:49:29 PM

EDIT: Screw it, I'll just report the thread, see if anything comes of it (who am I kidding).

¿? I was enjoying the thread.

smoothie

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Quote from: RoloTonyBrownTown on July 27, 2012, 09:49:29 PM

EDIT: Screw it, I'll just report the thread, see if anything comes of it (who am I kidding).

The thread wasn't even meant to troll.

This is the speculation SUBFORUM. And I am posting about speculation.

Where am I going wrong? Or do you just like to cry a lot?

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EDIT: Screw it, I'll just report the thread, see if anything comes of it (who am I kidding).

smoothie

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: bitcoinBull on July 27, 2012, 09:39:40 PM

Right before his supposed meet-up, he opens the "trust" to anyone, no referral/invite necessary. LOL

Looking forward to a bunch of posts from people wondering about their withdrawals... poor saps Roll Eyes

Ah fuck it, get on the ignore list you annoying twat. After all this has blown over and Pirate has or hasn't defaulted I'll take you off, but for now I just can't stomach the same old bullshit coming out of your mouth constantly.

New Form of a comeback: ....."TAKE THAT!"

Cheesy

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