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To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency. Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same. People are still unaware of crytos. It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use. I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink

. It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card. All transactions online will be hassle free.

I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.

The best use of debit card is when you are travelling most of the time because you only need to fund your debit card with your bitcoins and you will not be bringing dollars in that case, that is to give the people and convenience and of course it comes with a service fee.

That could be a good idea. So far, I have not used any debit with my bitcoin as the fee is quite high at present.

What card and what fees are you talking about?
Some cards do have high top up rates and also hit you with a couple of dollars surcharge to withdraw cash, most allow you to spend with no extra charges now though.

There are many card competing on the market now so fees will drop soon.

Could you share some debit cards that does not have a fee when you withdraw in a bank. I am really interested because I want to directly transfer my bitcoins in my debit card if that is possible.

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Most credit/debit cards that are topped up by bitcoin should work at anywhere visa/masters are accepted. Else, why would we have them? It'd be pretty embarrassing to sell one and find out that they don't work.

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Quote from: Sanguintan on August 11, 2016, 10:35:07 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on August 10, 2016, 11:37:24 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on August 10, 2016, 09:50:04 PM

Quote from: Xester on August 10, 2016, 09:41:06 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on April 11, 2016, 05:31:58 AM

To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency. Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same. People are still unaware of crytos. It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use. I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink

. It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card. All transactions online will be hassle free.

I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.

The best use of debit card is when you are travelling most of the time because you only need to fund your debit card with your bitcoins and you will not be bringing dollars in that case, that is to give the people and convenience and of course it comes with a service fee.

That could be a good idea. So far, I have not used any debit with my bitcoin as the fee is quite high at present.

What card and what fees are you talking about?
Some cards do have high top up rates and also hit you with a couple of dollars surcharge to withdraw cash, most allow you to spend with no extra charges now though.

There are many card competing on the market now so fees will drop soon.

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Quote from: freedomgo on August 10, 2016, 11:37:24 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on August 10, 2016, 09:50:04 PM

Quote from: Xester on August 10, 2016, 09:41:06 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on April 11, 2016, 05:31:58 AM

To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency. Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same. People are still unaware of crytos. It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use. I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink

. It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card. All transactions online will be hassle free.

I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.

The best use of debit card is when you are travelling most of the time because you only need to fund your debit card with your bitcoins and you will not be bringing dollars in that case, that is to give the people and convenience and of course it comes with a service fee.

That could be a good idea. So far, I have not used any debit with my bitcoin as the fee is quite high at present.

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Quote from: bitkilo on August 10, 2016, 09:50:04 PM

Quote from: Xester on August 10, 2016, 09:41:06 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on April 11, 2016, 05:31:58 AM

To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency. Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same. People are still unaware of crytos. It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use. I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink

. It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card. All transactions online will be hassle free.

I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.

The best use of debit card is when you are travelling most of the time because you only need to fund your debit card with your bitcoins and you will not be bringing dollars in that case, that is to give the people and convenience and of course it comes with a service fee.

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Quote from: Xester on August 10, 2016, 09:41:06 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on April 11, 2016, 05:31:58 AM

To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency. Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same. People are still unaware of crytos. It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use. I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink

. It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card. All transactions online will be hassle free.

I don't think all bitcoin debit cards are country specific, do a google search and see if you can find one that you can use in your country.
They are a great addition to the bitcoin world in these early days.

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Quote from: bitkilo on April 11, 2016, 05:31:58 AM

To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

I agree with you that for the bitcoin to grow people must use bitcoin as their daily currency. Here in my country, only few people knows the existence of the same. People are still unaware of crytos. It will require an understanding on how this works and using computers which older people from third world country do not know how to use. I mean they are not into technical side like my mom Wink

. It would be wonderful if we have that bitcoin debit card. All transactions online will be hassle free.

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Quote from: bitkilo on April 11, 2016, 05:31:58 AM

To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

If you are in a restaurant and you want to tip the waiter how would you do it, I have seen that waiters accept only cash so don't know if they accept credit cards tips. Another one is tip those that make shows like football tricks on the public streets in a city. The reason that we can't use in these places is that bitcoin is not designed to be used like cash (physically) so people should have maybe a mobile wallet so we can scan the QR code and send them a payment.

There are ways to get around the situations you mentioned.

Print off a couple of paper wallets and carry them with you, if you want to tip a waitress or street performer just pull out the piece of paper and use your phone to add the amount you wish to tip the person.
If they are not already into bitcoin then you have just educated someone new to the bitcoin world. If they are already using btc then they will most likely have a hot wallet on their phone and can offer you the QR code to scan.

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sounds pretty good to spend a bitcoin when k ni, because so many things I want to buy, but it may not be good to spend a bitcoin now, because the price bitcoin likely will soon be up, so it would be very bad for us if we do not have much bitcoin at the time, so maybe the best thing to do for the moment to collect bitcoin

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Quote from: bitkilo on April 11, 2016, 05:31:58 AM

To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

If you are in a restaurant and you want to tip the waiter how would you do it, I have seen that waiters accept only cash so don't know if they accept credit cards tips. Another one is tip those that make shows like football tricks on the public streets in a city. The reason that we can't use in these places is that bitcoin is not designed to be used like cash (physically) so people should have maybe a mobile wallet so we can scan the QR code and send them a payment.

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Yes and many other coins have much faster confirmations.

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Quote from: Sanguintan on August 10, 2016, 07:30:11 AM

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That can be one reason and the other reason could merchants will not love to wait for the confirmation time as it takes long time to get confirmed and that will be headache for merchants.

There will be lighting network or other centralised service to accept the bitcoin. The trasnaction speed will be faster.

the transactions are really fast right now, we need the confirmations to be faster than it is at the moment, spending bitcoins irl is really hard right now

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Quote from: Crazygreek on August 07, 2016, 07:33:10 PM

In future bitcoin will get a legal status somewhere for sure and than we will get a plastic cards and terminals for using bitcoin in offline shops and other stuff.

There are some companies who give you smart card and you can collect money through ATM and also use that card to buy things offline. So in future we would say that bitcoin can be accepted directly in stores like we can able to buy things using bitcoin as a direct payment method.

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Quote from: Sanguintan on August 10, 2016, 07:30:11 AM

Quote from: umaOuma on August 10, 2016, 07:27:56 AM

That can be one reason and the other reason could merchants will not love to wait for the confirmation time as it takes long time to get confirmed and that will be headache for merchants.

There will be lighting network or other centralised service to accept the bitcoin. The trasnaction speed will be faster.

Yes and I think confirmation time should not be issue with merchants as it may get better in coming years and merchants can deliver you goods once they see transaction in their wallet no need to wait till 3 confirmations.

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Quote from: umaOuma on August 10, 2016, 07:27:56 AM

That can be one reason and the other reason could merchants will not love to wait for the confirmation time as it takes long time to get confirmed and that will be headache for merchants.

There will be lighting network or other centralised service to accept the bitcoin. The trasnaction speed will be faster.

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All economies are based on money circulating, did you imagined one day all get paid their salarie and dont spend any single coin? No supermarket, no car no work, as no one would buy anything the world would die. With bitcoin its the same, if you saying you are holding to bitcoin get a bigger value to spend it sure, if you wanna to hold it not a problem as well, it may turn into the gold chicken eggs.

I think to take bitcoin price to next level we should keep ourselves engage in spending some coins either digitally or physically as only holding and keeping it idle will make it a weaker currency.

yeah of course spending will help the bitcoin indirectly because it will make bitcoin market or bitcoin transaction becomes active and maybe make prices of bitcoin to be high ?

Yeah thats sort of right. The more people spending bitcoins on a daily basis then the demand for coins will go up and the price will also go up with demand.

If retailers had an incentive to offer good discounts for customers paying with bitcoin then demand and price would rise sharply.

The gambling industry are the major contributor of the demand of supply because there are many gamblers that would gamble regularly, and we are still awaiting for the large merchants to adopt so we can see some great demand of bitcoins and eventually investors will earn profit.

Merchants won't adopt it as its way too volatile. They want stability.

That can be one reason and the other reason could merchants will not love to wait for the confirmation time as it takes long time to get confirmed and that will be headache for merchants.

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Quote from: Johnny00 on August 09, 2016, 10:39:29 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on August 07, 2016, 10:28:54 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on August 07, 2016, 09:30:34 PM

Quote from: MTBTT on August 07, 2016, 07:35:15 PM

Quote from: mark coins on August 07, 2016, 07:13:13 PM

Quote from: Doamader on August 07, 2016, 07:11:20 PM

All economies are based on money circulating, did you imagined one day all get paid their salarie and dont spend any single coin? No supermarket, no car no work, as no one would buy anything the world would die. With bitcoin its the same, if you saying you are holding to bitcoin get a bigger value to spend it sure, if you wanna to hold it not a problem as well, it may turn into the gold chicken eggs.

I think to take bitcoin price to next level we should keep ourselves engage in spending some coins either digitally or physically as only holding and keeping it idle will make it a weaker currency.

yeah of course spending will help the bitcoin indirectly because it will make bitcoin market or bitcoin transaction becomes active and maybe make prices of bitcoin to be high ?

Yeah thats sort of right. The more people spending bitcoins on a daily basis then the demand for coins will go up and the price will also go up with demand.

If retailers had an incentive to offer good discounts for customers paying with bitcoin then demand and price would rise sharply.

The gambling industry are the major contributor of the demand of supply because there are many gamblers that would gamble regularly, and we are still awaiting for the large merchants to adopt so we can see some great demand of bitcoins and eventually investors will earn profit.

Merchants won't adopt it as its way too volatile. They want stability.

When the merchants got their bitcoin from customers, they will sell it straight away to convert into fiat.

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Quote from: freedomgo on August 07, 2016, 10:28:54 PM

Quote from: bitkilo on August 07, 2016, 09:30:34 PM

Quote from: MTBTT on August 07, 2016, 07:35:15 PM

Quote from: mark coins on August 07, 2016, 07:13:13 PM

Quote from: Doamader on August 07, 2016, 07:11:20 PM

All economies are based on money circulating, did you imagined one day all get paid their salarie and dont spend any single coin? No supermarket, no car no work, as no one would buy anything the world would die. With bitcoin its the same, if you saying you are holding to bitcoin get a bigger value to spend it sure, if you wanna to hold it not a problem as well, it may turn into the gold chicken eggs.

I think to take bitcoin price to next level we should keep ourselves engage in spending some coins either digitally or physically as only holding and keeping it idle will make it a weaker currency.

yeah of course spending will help the bitcoin indirectly because it will make bitcoin market or bitcoin transaction becomes active and maybe make prices of bitcoin to be high ?

Yeah thats sort of right. The more people spending bitcoins on a daily basis then the demand for coins will go up and the price will also go up with demand.

If retailers had an incentive to offer good discounts for customers paying with bitcoin then demand and price would rise sharply.

The gambling industry are the major contributor of the demand of supply because there are many gamblers that would gamble regularly, and we are still awaiting for the large merchants to adopt so we can see some great demand of bitcoins and eventually investors will earn profit.

Merchants won't adopt it as its way too volatile. They want stability.

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Quote from: bitkilo on April 11, 2016, 05:31:58 AM

To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

Yes I agree that in order for mass adoption, Bitcoin should be spend as daily currency. It is like setting a role model on what to do with Bitcoin, since many people are not aware of it, it depends on the person who introduce on what will this people will do if they have bitcoin. If you show them as a currency then they use it as a currency. The problem that affect the usage of bitcoin is the absent of neighborhood merchant. No local store in the next street is accepting bitcoin for the majority of holder. Well I think to resolve this, one must start in putting up a local store in an area.

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We need to go x10, once we reach the 100 billion marketcap, that should be enough in the pool for whales to swim and not create huge turbulence when they make movements.

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