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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on March 09, 2023, 04:54:15 AM

Not necessarily a lot of work.

You can find sites that show you sure bets. When I did arbitrage betting in the past (...)

Why did you stop? Did you get banned or was it just not worth the time?

Quote from: wheelz1200 on March 09, 2023, 05:48:16 PM

Real hard to get anything real from arbitrage. You can spend all day bouncing from sports games, to sites ,etc. I don't think it's worth the squeeze. Back in the day it was a little easier, with all the tracking software by the time there is an opportunity people have already grabbed it and it levels out.

Yeah, I think the most arbitrage opportunities nowadays would have a profit rate in a range of 1%. One could think it's still great since it's a guarantee, but things are not so rosy when you consider that to win a lousy $100 you'd have to put in $10k. And since a lot of the gambling sites are registered in some exotic jurisdictions, if one of them decides to freeze your funds for "suspicious" activity, there's not much you can do legally. So the risk is still there.

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Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

I have heard about this and i have seen many of guys trying it, I also wanted to get involved in this type of betting but boy! its not easy you have to be always browsing for the perfect odds to flip your cash and also I have notice some betting site actually ban user who try this type of betting with their system because its kinda cheating at their own end. No doubt arbitrage is productive but I will tell you its not as easy as the way people actually testify their winning from this kind of betting.

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It's a piece of work that I honestly couldn't invest my time and effort into just because of how much effort it takes just learning it. Don't get me wrong, there's money to be made with arbitrage, more so with sports arbitrage but researching and keeping track of multiple bookies all for the sake of a few cents in profits especially if you are starting is something that would really get into you and may discourage you from ever continuing. In any case, I do suggest it to people who are into gambling but aren't really into placing bets on teams but are more about odds, but at the end of the day it is not just my cup of tea and I wouldn't really do it ever again if I could help it.

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In my opinion, sports arbitrage is actually a pretty cool way to make some money from matches, regardless of who wins or loses. Basically, you take advantage of the odds difference between different bookmakers to ensure that you come out with a profit.

But it's not as easy as it sounds - you need to have accounts with multiple bookmakers to make it work. And even then, there are some risks involved. For example, bookmakers don't really like it when people do this, so they might close your account or restrict your betting if they suspect something is going on.

And then there's the fact that there's not a lot of profit to be made - usually less than 5%. So it might not be worth the risk for some people. But hey, if you're willing to put in the work and take the risk, sports arbitrage could be a way to make some extra cash!

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Quote from: mak013 on March 09, 2023, 06:25:55 AM

I know several men who get profit from the bookies mistakes but i can`t say that it is sports arbitrage. They are looking for strange odds in the obscure leagues and try to bet as fast as possible. But the casino often decreases after such bets their maximum bet to $1. So they have to register new account to continue betting. They get not bad profit but it is really difficult.

What you have described also fits the definition of sports arbitrage.
It's complicated and quite costly. You can really make good money on sports arbitrage, but it is important to understand that this requires a competent approach to the process.

If i understand them right, they have special teams for different actions. One team is searching such mistakes, the other team after such bet is find, notifies other members about this bet, one more team search new members. Every member has percent from the profit of the third party gamblers and can bet themselves.
As for me, it is too near to cheating, so i avoid such kind of profit.

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Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

in the case of arbitrage, maybe some gamblers who have been in the world of gambling for a long time must have experienced this strategy. IMO, it is a little risky when it will be detected if you arbitrage sports betting.
many people talk about the risks of arbitrage and until now there are still many who do this strategy.
but for me, I have never used this method to make a profit even though many think that arbitrage can get quite a profit.

but it's back to each of us whether to continue to do this method or only do it a few times to get bigger profits.

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Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

Real hard to get anything real from arbitrage. You can spend all day bouncing from sports games, to sites ,etc. I don't think it's worth the squeeze. Back in the day it was a little easier, with all the tracking software by the time there is an opportunity people have already grabbed it and it levels out.

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Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

Sports arbitrage, also known as surebetting, involves placing bets on all possible outcomes of a sporting event across multiple bookmakers, in order to ensure a profit regardless of the outcome of the event. This is made possible by discrepancies in the odds offered by different bookmakers, which can occur due to factors such as differences in opinion, errors in calculation, or simply the volatility of the betting market.

Though sports arbitrage may seem like an easy way to make money, it is not without risks. The main risk comes from the possibility that one or more of the bookmakers may cancel or void the bet, potentially leading to a loss. And, sports arbitrage requires significant time and effort to find the right opportunities, and it may not be a sustainable long-term strategy.

Best explanation so far.
But what makes sports arbitrage an advantage and disadvantage is that; for pros it would generate profit most of the time because a bettor would be seeking for quantity of bets on odds possible. Downside on the other hand is that, if calculations won't be balanced, huge loss could be the result given that a bettor will have to bet on many platforms. I',d agree with some statements in this topic by other users such that this kind of betting strategy is for the rich ones simply bwcause they have the capability to extend their bets than their usual betting amount. Also, this is not something which would be effective 100%, as in contrast with its other name as "surebets".

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Quote from: mak013 on March 09, 2023, 06:25:55 AM

I know several men who get profit from the bookies mistakes but i can`t say that it is sports arbitrage. They are looking for strange odds in the obscure leagues and try to bet as fast as possible. But the casino often decreases after such bets their maximum bet to $1. So they have to register new account to continue betting. They get not bad profit but it is really difficult.

What you have described also fits the definition of sports arbitrage.
It's complicated and quite costly. You can really make good money on sports arbitrage, but it is important to understand that this requires a competent approach to the process.

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Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

Well it's going to be effective for you, until the casino's fight out what you are doing and maybe suspend your account or worst, block and totally not allow you to withdraw your supposedly "winnings".

I'm just talking about some of the scam accusations that I have seen in this boards.

Someone will accused a casino about not allowing them to withdraw and calling them a scam, casino will respond about those accusations and saying that the users are talking advantage and using arbitrage method.

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Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

Sports arbitrage, also known as surebetting, involves placing bets on all possible outcomes of a sporting event across multiple bookmakers, in order to ensure a profit regardless of the outcome of the event. This is made possible by discrepancies in the odds offered by different bookmakers, which can occur due to factors such as differences in opinion, errors in calculation, or simply the volatility of the betting market.

Though sports arbitrage may seem like an easy way to make money, it is not without risks. The main risk comes from the possibility that one or more of the bookmakers may cancel or void the bet, potentially leading to a loss. And, sports arbitrage requires significant time and effort to find the right opportunities, and it may not be a sustainable long-term strategy.

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Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

I have asked a friend to play arbitrary games but he refused according to him the money that would be used to play the game is big and if you loss the two side of the game then you loss big.
The arbitrary game doesn't mean that you must win one side, like if you play an odd that Chelsea win in the first odd and Chelsea will equalize in the second odd and the match was win by the other teams then all your odd (bets) became lost. When he analysis how the Sports Arbitrary work then I also came to the understanding that it is not also easy to win that but it always preferable than the normal betting of one sided games.

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Quote from: Daltonik on March 09, 2023, 05:36:56 AM

Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

In the case of arbitrage on sports betting, you must accurately calculate your small profit in order not to attract attention and not be blocked in an online casino and not lose your funds, so here you need to think carefully before using this method of earning.

This is the biggest obstacle to arbitrage betting. A lot of casinos view your arbitraging as suspicious and if they decide to halt your withdrawals or worse yet, completely freeze your account, not only do you miss out on profit, you could incur a heavy loss if you can't get your money back due to some broken terms of service rules. I think not only would arbitraging be a full time job, but it could be considered too risky for most people.

But to each their own. If you have found a working model with which casinos leave you alone, then the more power to you.

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For arbitrage it takes a lot of time to do research on the difference in odds and also put your account at risk if at any point you are detected arbitrage in sports betting.
I admit that arbitrage is very profitable if it is done carefully and definitely using the right research.
I used to do this way and very profitable. But only a few times did the arbitrage method and I found out that someone was banned on one of the gambling sites and the funds were frozen, I stopped using this method and prefer to use the normal method.

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What are you guys talking about. You don't bet at the same provider.

You bet team A on site 1 and bet on team B on site 2. How would this be illegal to any site? You give them action betting on a team, thats all they want and care about. ALso how would they know you played arbitrage if you only bet 1 team on their site?
That's how you play a "sure bet", anything else is stupid.

They will only interfere when you bet team A, then the line moves and you bet on team B as well.

That's the big and only difference.

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Quote from: swogerino on March 09, 2023, 06:22:38 AM

This is being done from quite a lot of time actually.There are people who deal exclusively with it and make money on it but as been said already here it is a daily job,you cannot just go and watch some sites that offer you the best deals like Betburger the most well known one.You need to maintain a lot of gambling accounts and that is a lot of work,to keep track of all of those.On top of all these things arbitrage gives you very little profit in terms of percentage so you need a lot of budget which is the most limiting factor for many people who want to do it but can't because they lack funds.

So it is a "sport" for the already rich ones I am afraid,the arbitrage betting.

Maintaining your account is least of your concern because sportsbook is already vigilant on cracking down players that involves on arbitrage betting. Your lucky if you can bet without being unnoticed but your balance might be freeze or worst confiscated once you abuse too much arbitrage betting. This is the common issue nowadays on sportsbook. 99.99% of the complaints here in the forum is about account being froze for doing arbitrage. I will not risk my account as well my balance on doing such thing with minimal profit.

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Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

It's important to note that bookmakers have measures to prevent arbitrage betting, such as limiting the amount that can be bet and closely monitoring betting patterns. Additionally, while arbitrage betting is not illegal, bookmakers generally frown upon it, and it can result in account closures or restrictions.

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If casinos find that you are doing this they can ban your account. So, is important to mention how there is a risk in this practice. And the profit usually is really low, I mean less than 5% of the amount, and that's why I don't feel it is worth the risk to do it. I have seen some users lose big amounts when the casinos decide to close their accounts for this reason.

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Quote from: Beparanf on March 09, 2023, 06:57:43 AM

Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

It’s very rare to find this kind of arbitrage opportunity on same book maker because they usually use a bot to provide an odds and its easy to spot an error. Typically odd difference usually occur with different book maker. This is when the book maker offer a bit high on the other side while the other book maker do the same on the opposite side.

Typically arbitrage betting is easy to spot because book maker is kinda connected to each other even though you are playing on different casino.

I have never done a sport arbitrage, so I don't really know about it. But I think it must have a risk too, especially if we play on gambling betting sites that we don't know clearly. I prefer to bet as usual because it does not provide a greater risk unless we place a large bet.

But maybe some people make this arbitration bet and can benefit but don't share the story with the public. If you can't accept the risk, it's better not to try it and keep using sports betting in the usual place.

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Quote from: Garryprodigy on March 09, 2023, 04:02:55 AM

Sports arbitrage is basically when you make profit from matches regardless of the outcome of those matches just by taking advantage of odd difference between book makers. Odd difference on the other hand occur as a result of error in setting the odds by the bookmakers.

It’s very rare to find this kind of arbitrage opportunity on same book maker because they usually use a bot to provide an odds and its easy to spot an error. Typically odd difference usually occur with different book maker. This is when the book maker offer a bit high on the other side while the other book maker do the same on the opposite side.

Typically arbitrage betting is easy to spot because book maker is kinda connected to each other even though you are playing on different casino.

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