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Pab
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December 17, 2015, 11:19:57 AM
#35
Here you have good arbitrage Michael Rasztovits v Rob Szabo
Darts - PDC World Championships - 20/12/15 - 13:00 GMT
1 - 2.50 - WilliamHill or Skybet
2 - 1.90 - Spreadex
Return - 7.95%

it is rare to get   profit like that

but  with good sofwere you can make money
Pab
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1012
December 16, 2015, 07:51:29 PM
#34
I was betting with betdaq and the betfair. These sites allow you to do sports trading. Now, we have BetBTC which works pretty similar to those sites.
An easy way to get some profits is to play for freebets. once you get a good trade going you can trade your bet and collect your profit. After that, you can invest your profit. that will be a freebet.
another strategy is to go for sure bets. meaning that you will always have some winnings to collect. In this case, you select a different betting site always checking for the best odds. if it is a soccer game you can, for example, bet against the Draw and eventually would be covering any other result. Now, after that you will need to find a betting site that has a nice odd for the draw and put your bet on favor of a Draw. After that you will have all results covered and no matter what the final result you will always make some profit.

tell me what you think

Is that even possible? There are no sure or guarantee winning bet. Because is is betting against with odds and that is not although you do some bet with 1.02 multiplier it wont guarantee you will win that match. Are you saying here is to cover other match with other match? If you say so this is almost the same as martingale then

There is,arbitrage,ihave guys emailing me arbitrage opportunities every day,it is real only on fiat market,small earninngs,anybody want  i can send you his link for free,pm me
i wait for horce racing on BetBtc  to lay horses

How come you lay horses? the ones good to spare a Lay position are the ones who have the highest odds ... meaning that you will have to endure a Higher reponsibility thus a higher risk. in the event of that horse winning you will lose a ton of money

False  favourite.but odds must be  maximum up to1/4
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December 16, 2015, 07:25:24 PM
#33
So in short you are talking about trying to arbitrage between sites. On paper that sounds like a good idea! In reality, you will need a very very big bankroll and top dog software installed to be able to even think about it.

You may see the chance on these sites to make a few dollars but give it a go and you will more than likely quickly find other arbiters are already there betting thus increasing your odds. They pay hundreds for their software.
legendary
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December 16, 2015, 07:18:10 PM
#32
I was betting with betdaq and the betfair. These sites allow you to do sports trading. Now, we have BetBTC which works pretty similar to those sites.
An easy way to get some profits is to play for freebets. once you get a good trade going you can trade your bet and collect your profit. After that, you can invest your profit. that will be a freebet.
another strategy is to go for sure bets. meaning that you will always have some winnings to collect. In this case, you select a different betting site always checking for the best odds. if it is a soccer game you can, for example, bet against the Draw and eventually would be covering any other result. Now, after that you will need to find a betting site that has a nice odd for the draw and put your bet on favor of a Draw. After that you will have all results covered and no matter what the final result you will always make some profit.

tell me what you think

Is that even possible? There are no sure or guarantee winning bet. Because is is betting against with odds and that is not although you do some bet with 1.02 multiplier it wont guarantee you will win that match. Are you saying here is to cover other match with other match? If you say so this is almost the same as martingale then
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Forget that martingale...
it is possible and it is called sure bet. its kind of arbitrage between different betting sites:
https://en.surebet.com/surebets

you need to do some calculation and have you account funded in a few betting sites for that to work.
sometimes you can use martiangle in sports betting if you smart to pick what the team is will not lose in 5 match
hero member
Activity: 504
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December 16, 2015, 04:51:24 PM
#31
I was betting with betdaq and the betfair. These sites allow you to do sports trading. Now, we have BetBTC which works pretty similar to those sites.
An easy way to get some profits is to play for freebets. once you get a good trade going you can trade your bet and collect your profit. After that, you can invest your profit. that will be a freebet.
another strategy is to go for sure bets. meaning that you will always have some winnings to collect. In this case, you select a different betting site always checking for the best odds. if it is a soccer game you can, for example, bet against the Draw and eventually would be covering any other result. Now, after that you will need to find a betting site that has a nice odd for the draw and put your bet on favor of a Draw. After that you will have all results covered and no matter what the final result you will always make some profit.

tell me what you think

Is that even possible? There are no sure or guarantee winning bet. Because is is betting against with odds and that is not although you do some bet with 1.02 multiplier it wont guarantee you will win that match. Are you saying here is to cover other match with other match? If you say so this is almost the same as martingale then

There is,arbitrage,ihave guys emailing me arbitrage opportunities every day,it is real only on fiat market,small earninngs,anybody want  i can send you his link for free,pm me
i wait for horce racing on BetBtc  to lay horses

How come you lay horses? the ones good to spare a Lay position are the ones who have the highest odds ... meaning that you will have to endure a Higher reponsibility thus a higher risk. in the event of that horse winning you will lose a ton of money
Pab
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1012
December 15, 2015, 03:23:11 PM
#30
I was betting with betdaq and the betfair. These sites allow you to do sports trading. Now, we have BetBTC which works pretty similar to those sites.
An easy way to get some profits is to play for freebets. once you get a good trade going you can trade your bet and collect your profit. After that, you can invest your profit. that will be a freebet.
another strategy is to go for sure bets. meaning that you will always have some winnings to collect. In this case, you select a different betting site always checking for the best odds. if it is a soccer game you can, for example, bet against the Draw and eventually would be covering any other result. Now, after that you will need to find a betting site that has a nice odd for the draw and put your bet on favor of a Draw. After that you will have all results covered and no matter what the final result you will always make some profit.

tell me what you think

Is that even possible? There are no sure or guarantee winning bet. Because is is betting against with odds and that is not although you do some bet with 1.02 multiplier it wont guarantee you will win that match. Are you saying here is to cover other match with other match? If you say so this is almost the same as martingale then

There is,arbitrage,ihave guys emailing me arbitrage opportunities every day,it is real only on fiat market,small earninngs,anybody want  i can send you his link for free,pm me
i wait for horce racing on BetBtc  to lay horses
legendary
Activity: 2492
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December 15, 2015, 04:45:24 AM
#29

Its a sport so why not just observe how good the players for both game and then bet which you think will win. Sports websites usually give hints who might win and that they comment on strengths of the team.
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December 15, 2015, 12:33:37 AM
#28
i prefer to sportsbook play with bookers or robot like directbet
i cannot play with other users to bet
legendary
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December 15, 2015, 12:09:00 AM
#27
Every strategy is doomed for failure. Because suppose there is a working strategy the house will make sure their calculation and rules will be changed so they won't lose.
Let's face it, gambling sites are not foundations that give away free money. Their main goal is to make as much money from their userbase.

Yes it is doom for failure if you play it for a long run, if you played for a short run I dont think it will doomed your bet. There is not a really strategy out there, the one that is very popular about is just martingale but you need to control your base bet and your balance to maximize its effect

I rarely do any sports bets but trust me. I think sports betting is one of the hardest to earn money in.

I've been watching sports for years and in hindsight it very easy to predict if you don't have money riding on it but after you take a few bets you realise that its a lot harder then it looks.

I dont think so. What I do know that sportbets is easily to bet and to get profit because you have so many informations out there that can be used to support your picks. This kind of bet is easier but it just takes a longer time that usual bet but it is profitable if you gather much informations
legendary
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December 14, 2015, 10:38:42 PM
#26
I rarely do any sports bets but trust me. I think sports betting is one of the hardest to earn money in.

I've been watching sports for years and in hindsight it very easy to predict if you don't have money riding on it but after you take a few bets you realise that its a lot harder then it looks.
hero member
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December 14, 2015, 10:25:50 PM
#25
When attempting "surebets" or arbitrage you need to factor in you chances of actually getting paid. People have trouble getting paid out from some "legitimate" sports betting sites without involving bitcoin, I can't imagine how many shady bitcoin/cryptocoin operations there are out there.

It doesn't matter if you get various bets that "guarantee" you a profit if one of the site won't pay out.

really? can u show some proofs? i don't think those legit fiat sportsbooks won't payout unless the gamblers cheat or violate their terms, of course many casinos ban and delete sure bets, they have already shown in the terms, so don't blame them, arbitragers should trading on pinnacle sports which is the most famous site doesn't ban arbitrage betting.

I'm not going to bother showing "proofs" that there are scummy betting websites out in the world. There are tons of them, a simple google search will help you out.

How many various scam operations have there been on this very forum? how many websites on sportsbookreview have stolen from customers?

I say you are right! There are a lot of scammy sites in the betting sports world, but in real life as well. Even if there are a lot of shitty sites that will robb you at the first chance there are still those who play by the rules. As many others said before, before you pick the sites you will be betting with you need to research them.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 02:28:19 PM
#24
When attempting "surebets" or arbitrage you need to factor in you chances of actually getting paid. People have trouble getting paid out from some "legitimate" sports betting sites without involving bitcoin, I can't imagine how many shady bitcoin/cryptocoin operations there are out there.

It doesn't matter if you get various bets that "guarantee" you a profit if one of the site won't pay out.

really? can u show some proofs? i don't think those legit fiat sportsbooks won't payout unless the gamblers cheat or violate their terms, of course many casinos ban and delete sure bets, they have already shown in the terms, so don't blame them, arbitragers should trading on pinnacle sports which is the most famous site doesn't ban arbitrage betting.

I'm not going to bother showing "proofs" that there are scummy betting websites out in the world. There are tons of them, a simple google search will help you out.

How many various scam operations have there been on this very forum? how many websites on sportsbookreview have stolen from customers?
sr. member
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December 13, 2015, 02:15:26 PM
#23
Every strategy is doomed for failure. Because suppose there is a working strategy the house will make sure their calculation and rules will be changed so they won't lose.
Let's face it, gambling sites are not foundations that give away free money. Their main goal is to make as much money from their userbase.

Well that is for the games like dice that make those calculations.
WIth sport is just real and live that you can see in your eyes there is not cheat. THe only thing you need to be careful is the scams sites. But true that is why I don't gamble online.
sr. member
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December 13, 2015, 01:41:03 PM
#22
Every strategy is doomed for failure. Because suppose there is a working strategy the house will make sure their calculation and rules will be changed so they won't lose.
Let's face it, gambling sites are not foundations that give away free money. Their main goal is to make as much money from their userbase.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 11:05:02 AM
#21
At the end of the day ,you will still lose if most of your bets don't work out.As you said bet on multiple sites on multiple odds like draw,0,2 or any one club wins.Now suppose if you put same bet amounts on all of the bets either you can lose all or win or or reach a break ever point.There are many possibilities on your bet which is quite confusing and non structured .I don't think i will be able to bet with such strategy .

Nah for arbitrage betting, the bet sizes on different outcomes (that should be mutually exclusive and exhaustive) should not be the same but should be derived from the the odds directly. It seems you have no idea what arbitrage betting is and may be you should check the links posted by earlier repliers.
sr. member
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December 13, 2015, 10:34:21 AM
#20
At the end of the day ,you will still lose if most of your bets don't work out.As you said bet on multiple sites on multiple odds like draw,0,2 or any one club wins.Now suppose if you put same bet amounts on all of the bets either you can lose all or win or or reach a break ever point .There are many possibilities on your bet which is quite confusing and non structured .I don't think i will be able to bet with such strategy .

Yeah every bet/strategy depends on luck. No matter how advanced your strategy is, without luck you will win nothing.
My advice is to focus on games that require a higher skill set (cards) and less depend on such strategies.

The ONLY goal of betting is that the house wins. No matter what the game is called..
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 09:27:32 AM
#19
At the end of the day ,you will still lose if most of your bets don't work out.As you said bet on multiple sites on multiple odds like draw,0,2 or any one club wins.Now suppose if you put same bet amounts on all of the bets either you can lose all or win or or reach a break ever point .There are many possibilities on your bet which is quite confusing and non structured .I don't think i will be able to bet with such strategy .
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December 13, 2015, 06:20:41 AM
#18
Did you mean arbitrage bets, if so and you fine enough bets, then thats awesome. Because there is no chance whatsoever to loose and you can always make small but solid and guaranteed profit. I know often some picks so PM me if you ever need some of them Wink
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 05:36:52 AM
#17
I use 5 outs at the moment and do enjoy looking for some
arb bets. Especially if you can line read. I knew the seahawks
would go past 7 so I snagged -6.5 - Now its 11 and can bet
the other side and if it lands between 7-11 I can win both
win/push if 11.  Normal arbs tho you have to bet to much for it
to matter. Like in baseball I would sometimes see +130 and see
a -125 somewhere (not worth it for $5 on a 100$ bet)
sr. member
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December 13, 2015, 04:22:08 AM
#16
So you're talking about arbitrage? That's a really profitable way of making money for sure, making the difference out of different sites.

But it's hard to find significant differences in the price offerings these days and you have to have significant bankroll to be able to profit from this strategy.
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