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April 26, 2024, 12:33:32 PM
#49
Hi I won 7 figures on soccer betting over the last few months and withdrew the crypto to my cold wallet, how can I sell this crypto and avoid paying taxes?
This fella isn't back to answer the questions that people need to give the best answers, like Where are you from OP? This is very important to know because you can be from a country that doesn't care about paying taxes on gambling, there aren't many countries that ask gamblers to pay taxes.

We don't pay taxes when we gamble in my country, but some other countries closest to our border do pay taxes, even on items they purchased online, but not here in my country.

So if you want the best guidelines you should reveal your country name, it is really a shame that the government want some cut from gamblers risked and win money, what will they do for gamblers when they lose money? I guess nothing, and this makes it so unfair.
I think taxes in gambling are already shouldered by the betting platform and gamblers are automatically charged by it but that is if they are registered under the government. The OP's concern is about crypto taxes but you are right that it was country-dependent. If you buy online, a store can also auto-charged you by a tax because they can be from a country where taxes are strictly required.

I am not sure if it's called greediness on why some governments are like that but maybe their country is also poor and they use the tax to improved it? So, we must be mature enough to accept it especially if we are winning huge. It's only odd if even if we lose we are still get taxed.
legendary
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April 24, 2024, 04:36:39 PM
#48
Hi I won 7 figures on soccer betting over the last few months and withdrew the crypto to my cold wallet, how can I sell this crypto and avoid paying taxes?
It's that really worth going prison to? Why would you want to do that and watch over your shoulder later on and hope that money trail won't lead to you. Depending where you live you might pull that off but FATF is operating in most countries and at the time you get it cashed out, your bank account might get frozen later if it has raised right flags.

I would recommend considering twice. I mean listen to yourself, you are planning a tax fraud by asking about it from random people in the internet, because you aren't prepared for that in any way, nor you have a clue how to hide your traces from tax man. And again, depending where you are, jails might be nice, but i would pay any amount of tax to peace of mind.

But yeah, congrats for the huge win. It's a huge win after taxes as well.
sr. member
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April 24, 2024, 04:36:04 PM
#47
Move to a country where the tax regulations are fair and not abusive towards local citizens, acquire a citizenship there, cashout your funds legally by paying fair taxes to the government and be happy! With a 7 figures prize, it must be pretty affordable to do that, and still put the money into good use through smart investments which will return you passive income along the years, growing that balance even more. With a prize like that, money shouldn't be a problem for you anymore, since you know how to manage it properly and sustainably.
It's great advice, although I wouldn't leave but I would look for a trusted friend so that he can do me the favor of doing things the way you want him to and that he receives some bonus every time I win, so I handle things better from now on my country, now if the option is to leave, well, if you are in Europe it is easy to move from one country to another, but if you are in a country that is on the other side of the world, it would be better to have a friend or someone you trust, I think That is something that we should all have, a friend is always necessary for him to do those types of favors that he will still win, no one can take advantage of the benefits of another without paying him back Because everyone Deserves to win, if so it turns into a great business and to spend the money you can do it in bitcoin.
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April 24, 2024, 04:08:21 PM
#46
Hi I won 7 figures on soccer betting over the last few months and withdrew the crypto to my cold wallet, how can I sell this crypto and avoid paying taxes?
This question will receive comprehensive answer if you state your country. Many countries have different laws on gambling taxes and I am sure your country have peculiar laws. In my country casinos collect taxes direct from win unbehalf of the government , which means avoid tax will not be possible. Maybe you would have to do research to determine gambling tax free nations and also consider if you can move to those places to avoid tax.

However, I don't think you should avoid tax especially if it is not too high. Taxes are what the government use to run your country and we need to support them in anyway we can.  I am comfortable with a neighbouring country's gambling tax laws because there is a provision that allows you to submit you gambling losses as expenditure for deductions. And I might consider moving there if I have such a big win.
legendary
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April 24, 2024, 03:54:58 PM
#45
I'm not a supporter of taxation, but with that kind of money I'd pay the tax. You have 3 basic choices and I can tell you what I'd do in each of them.

1. You can always avoid paying and this might be your only option if gambling is banned in your country and you used a VPN or gambled from abroad. In such case try to change that cryptocurrency you're holding into bitcoin and hold it for now exchanging only small amounts.
2. Declare your tax and be done with it. Check your tax rate for money from games of chance and what forms you have to fill and do everything by the book. That's what I'd do in this case. If this was a very small amount, like $1k, I wouldn't bother, but in your case it's not going to be easy to hide.
3. Change jurisdiction. Move to another country where you can pay low taxes. With bitcoin it's easy because most countries will ask you to pay taxes when you exchange it, not when you win it.
legendary
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April 24, 2024, 03:50:21 PM
#44
Move to a country where the tax regulations are fair and not abusive towards local citizens, acquire a citizenship there, cashout your funds legally by paying fair taxes to the government and be happy! With a 7 figures prize, it must be pretty affordable to do that, and still put the money into good use through smart investments which will return you passive income along the years, growing that balance even more. With a prize like that, money shouldn't be a problem for you anymore, since you know how to manage it properly and sustainably.

OP, was it a 7 figures prize in USD? That's impressive indeed, but be careful.

Before heeding suggestions like the one above, do what others said and ask professional advice to an expert. Depending on your jurisdiction, you may end facing jail time for tax evasion if you follow the wrong advice. This forum may be the best if you want to educate yourself about Bitcoin and other altcoins, but when it comes to legality, people give their opinion without knowing.
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April 24, 2024, 03:34:21 PM
#43
Move to a country where the tax regulations are fair and not abusive towards local citizens, acquire a citizenship there, cashout your funds legally by paying fair taxes to the government and be happy! With a 7 figures prize, it must be pretty affordable to do that, and still put the money into good use through smart investments which will return you passive income along the years, growing that balance even more. With a prize like that, money shouldn't be a problem for you anymore, since you know how to manage it properly and sustainably.
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April 24, 2024, 03:07:12 PM
#42
Hi I won 7 figures on soccer betting over the last few months and withdrew the crypto to my cold wallet, how can I sell this crypto and avoid paying taxes?

Great to hear about your winnings, seven figures is impressive!
However, I advise against trying to avoid paying taxes. It’s not only the right thing to do but also frees you from potential legal complications in the future. Instead, focus on managing your tax liabilities effectively and legally.
sr. member
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April 24, 2024, 02:57:43 PM
#41
Is the tax paid very large? so you feel very reluctant to pay taxes. I don't know which country you live in, so I don't know what percentage of tax is charged, but if it is more than 25% of course you will feel quite burdened by the deduction. But whatever tax is charged, you have to pay it.

I will not help you in this matter, because of course tax evasion is an act against the law, and the perpetrator could be caught in the law. And my advice, it would be better if you communicate or consult with a tax expert or what is called a financial advisor, because they are the ones who might be able to provide the best solution for you according to what is happening. and I just remind you that when you try to avoid taxes, be prepared for all the consequences that will occur.
legendary
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April 24, 2024, 02:32:13 PM
#40
Hi I won 7 figures on soccer betting over the last few months and withdrew the crypto to my cold wallet, how can I sell this crypto and avoid paying taxes?

The least amount of information you need to provide is to actually let people know which country you are from or what the tax regulations are in your country? If your plan is to outright evade taxes that you know are usually due, then asking around in this forum in public is probably not the best way to get the information you are looking for, let alone anyone sane would feel the urge to answer in detail.

In some countries taxes are due on winnings from gambling and then some taxes are due on gains from selling the crypto. It depends. But if the taxes are low on gains from gambling, paying those taxes and then immediately sell the crypto should not go hand in hand with more taxation under most regulations as the money you hold in crypto has been taxed already so to say. Unless you hold the crypto for a while and you realize gains from holding the crypto itself. That's the second case then.
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April 24, 2024, 12:08:42 PM
#39

Is this applicable in crypto casino? I’m curious on how the government will knew that you win on a crypto casino.


I think that if a casino is regulated by the government where it is operating, then such casino is under a contract and obligation to declare by themselves to the government or to the request of the government on their activities from time to time as required. So it is at that point that government can verify winners and those taxable from their winning except otherwise where the casino is not regulated or isolated from the government, they will not easily know accounts that are taxable.
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April 24, 2024, 11:43:04 AM
#38
However if you spend directly bitcoin ( please correct me if I am wrong) you don't need to pay any tax on this... .

That's wrong. From the moment he earns money in the casino, a taxable event is produced for which he will have to pay taxes, unless where they live they do not tax casino winnings for taxes. And when he spends it, a taxable event is also created on the difference in price when he won it and when he spent it.

Is this applicable in crypto casino? I’m curious on how the government will knew that you win on a crypto casino.

I think this the reason why US doesn’t allowed operators with Curacao license to operate in their soil since they can’t tax US players. But in general, All gambling profit should be filed for taxes. Luckily in my country, it’s up to you whether you will declare your casino profit or not since our IRS counterpart tax agency is not strict when it comes to tax implementation on casino profit.
legendary
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April 24, 2024, 10:19:16 AM
#37
However if you spend directly bitcoin ( please correct me if I am wrong) you don't need to pay any tax on this... .

That's wrong. From the moment he earns money in the casino, a taxable event is produced for which he will have to pay taxes, unless where they live they do not tax casino winnings for taxes. And when he spends it, a taxable event is also created on the difference in price when he won it and when he spent it.
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April 24, 2024, 10:02:02 AM
#36
How would you know that it's not a great fortune in the local currency that OP uses? You living in the same country as OP? I wouldn't say that because the fortune of someone is relative to which country you're living from, say for example you're a millionaire in a poor country but it doesn't mean anything in a rich country...
~snip~

I just wrote that it doesn't have to be a great fortune considering that it is a figure that represents 1 million something - but of course wealth is a very relative thing in relation to how one thinks about it and where one lives.

Let's say for example that the OP is from Nigeria and won 1+ million in local currency which is a little over $800, and even in that country that can't be considered wealth - or maybe it can? For more comparisons, we can take Argentina as an example, where 1 million pesos is worth about $1100, or 1 million Turkish lira, which is worth about $30 000.
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April 24, 2024, 09:56:27 AM
#35
Hi I won 7 figures on soccer betting over the last few months and withdrew the crypto to my cold wallet, how can I sell this crypto and avoid paying taxes?
7 figures is not a small amount that you can hide from a tax agency, either you need to be extremely rich to cover up the winnings while reporting the income or don't report the income at all.

First of all, this isn't avoiding, it's evading.

If you moved the rewards to a non-custodial wallet that isn't connected with any of your KYCed addresses then you can use decentralized p2p exchanges like BISQ to convert crypto to your fiat in smaller amounts.
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April 24, 2024, 09:52:40 AM
#34
Hi I won 7 figures on soccer betting over the last few months and withdrew the crypto to my cold wallet, how can I sell this crypto and avoid paying taxes?
Congratulations on the number of wins you get.

I cannot avoid tax from selling crypto because the tax will be deducted automatically by the exchange I use as a selling and buying platform with the conditions regulated by the state. So there is no way for me to avoid taxes.
In fact, if the amount of crypto sold is large, it doesn't matter if the tax deduction is not that large.

Maybe there is a way to avoid tax cuts in your country, I don't know. Hopefully you can do it successfully.
legendary
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April 24, 2024, 09:33:48 AM
#33
This fella isn't back to answer the questions that people need to give the best answers...
He was online a few days ago, but maybe he was just too busy spending his winnings Wink
...

Napk1ns is active again after a long silence. I think he asked this question just as a joke. If his words are to be believed, he has been betting with very large amounts for years, so he is certainly familiar with how to transfer crypto to cash and what taxes/fees he has to pay. I really doubt that after betting so much he has no idea how to cash out.

I think he is just messing with people, all his topics are hard to believe, but I guess nothing is impossible in the crypto world. Anyway, after opening a topic he rarely comes back to the same topic, so I doubt we will see him here again. Maybe in some time, he will open another topic with some crazy bet/tip/question.
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April 24, 2024, 07:27:56 AM
#32
Congratulations for your big win mate. Based on the question you ask, I think the best solution to resolve this paying of tax issues will be more better if you start using any of these trusted decentralized exchanges. But why scared of pay tax? But speaking about tax paying from winning on Gamble, I don't think it's worth paying tax if a gambler wins a bet, the casino are the ones who's supposed to take care of those things because they are company and the gambler is just a mer gambler even though he gave the money to gamble.
legendary
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April 24, 2024, 07:03:01 AM
#31
If it is an amount that is in $ or EUR, then that is impressive, and if it is a local currency in which millions do not mean a great fortune, then the OP is not one of those who can not say that he got rich on sports betting Smiley
How would you know that it's not a great fortune in the local currency that OP uses? You living in the same country as OP? I wouldn't say that because the fortune of someone is relative to which country you're living from, say for example you're a millionaire in a poor country but it doesn't mean anything in a rich country, you might just be a minimum wage earner in that rich country but that don't mean that you have to say it's not worth a lot, if it can change OP's life or turn their lives around for the better then it's worth a lot. In regards to how OP would be able to get it out without the worry of taxes, do a P2P trade so you're cutting the away the platform and deal directly with other people.
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April 24, 2024, 06:57:25 AM
#30
First of all....Impressive amount. Congrats Smiley
~snip~


If it is an amount that is in $ or EUR, then that is impressive, and if it is a local currency in which millions do not mean a great fortune, then the OP is not one of those who can not say that he got rich on sports betting Smiley



This fella isn't back to answer the questions that people need to give the best answers, like Where are you from OP? This is very important to know because you can be from a country that doesn't care about paying taxes on gambling, there aren't many countries that ask gamblers to pay taxes.
~snip~


He was online a few days ago, but maybe he was just too busy spending his winnings Wink

Joking aside, such things are best clarified by visiting the local tax office. Everything else is just speculation, considering that we don't know where the OP is located, possibly even in a country where cryptocurrencies are partially or completely banned. There are always ways to sell crypto without paying taxes, whether it's p2p or virtual cards, or maybe even paying for goods or services directly with cryptocurrencies.
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