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rdbase yes! Amazing win for Asia too, I don't think football is as big in Philippines as basketball. I mentioned before I have several friends through colleagues from there and all they do is play basketball. Not a single one of them plays or even watches football.

First goal ever, first win ever. Dreams Smiley

Regarding Messi, everyone maybe knows if they play La Liga pool I'm a lifelong Barca and Messi fan, so I am happy for him. Just unfortunate now I can never watch him anymore.

Well, In the Philippines there are 2 sports that are very common it is either Basketball for men and Volleyball for women that are played in my High-School days but Football even though we have a team that is dedicated to Football the Azkals is not really that Popular in the Philippines,



Now here are my bet and prediction for games today,

Los Angeles Sparks VS Indiana Fever

The odds for this game are 1.64 for the Sparks and 2.23 for the Fever, right now Karlie Samuelson is doubtful if she can play for the Sparks, Katie Lou Samuelson is out of this season, and Lexie Brown, Chiney Ogwumike, and Nia Clouden all can not play for the Sparks, while NaLyssa Smith can not play for the Fever because of a foot injury, for this game because of the injuries for the Los Angeles Sparks for me I will go with the Indiana Fever,

New York Liberty VS Atlanta Dream

The odds for this game are 1.20 for the Liberty and 4.00 for the Dream, right now Stefanie Dolson and Han Xu, can not play for the Liberty, while the Atlanta Dream doesn't have any injuries right now for this game even though the Atlanta Dream doesn't have any injuries the Dream doesn't have any win against the New York Liberty on their previous games, so my pick is the New York Liberty,



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Today we have ton of matches from the prequaly or qualy to conference league on Europe. This kind of games gave always the same think, i want ot make a multibet very large and with a really low ammount hit a HUGE WIN. I try it sometimes, and one time it was very close.
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rdbase yes! Amazing win for Asia too, I don't think football is as big in Philippines as basketball. I mentioned before I have several friends through colleagues from there and all they do is play basketball. Not a single one of them plays or even watches football.

First goal ever, first win ever. Dreams.

Regarding Messi, everyone maybe knows if they play La Liga pool I'm a lifelong Barca and Messi fan, so I am happy for him. Just unfortunate now I can never watch him anymore.
Yeah very amazing win for the Filipinas with that win.
Just watching the highlights because these matches are at 2 in the morning where I am so can't watch them live.
Another upset for the other hosts of these Women's World Cup but this time Nigeria handing Australia a loss.

The tip from me maybe bet on the upsets for these WWC.
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rdbase yes! Amazing win for Asia too, I don't think football is as big in Philippines as basketball. I mentioned before I have several friends through colleagues from there and all they do is play basketball. Not a single one of them plays or even watches football.

First goal ever, first win ever. Dreams Smiley

Regarding Messi, everyone maybe knows if they play La Liga pool I'm a lifelong Barca and Messi fan, so I am happy for him. Just unfortunate now I can never watch him anymore.
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I have a question for you guys but is WNBA as unpredictable as mens basketball and is the difference in quality as big as with football? Just noticed all you guys talking about it so it must be pretty good. Never watched to be honest, and never saw a SB special about it. So far WWC specials not hitting.

Which is my next question why are we not discussing WWC when its the current SB promo? Looking for tips!
Great question because seeing the forum members above only talking about WNBA, which one has their own thread dedicated to the alternate sport to the NBA.

This is simple to answer: There aren't many familiar sports in this time of the summer to place bets on.
So this league is played in the time off of the other major leagues which happen to be the men which have their break in the year. It has been imposed by the commissions of those leagues to be held at this time so to keep the excitement flowing for these sports no matter played by whatever gender that might be.

The lull for the soccer leagues having their break for the season worked for the Leagues Cup with the debut of Messi to the Inter Miami last friday didn't it?
I just hated that I missed the match yesterday or else I would of bet on them with #10 scoring 2 goals.

So the marketing team had the right idea.

I placed a bet on the Womens World Cup in a parlay with a Max win and it hit.
Unfortunately I placed a bet on the WNBA last night and lost due to a three-pointer scored with the last 11 seconds left.


This WWC has seen 0-0 draws with Norway and Canada in their first round matches.
They need to score and win to pass Ireland in today's match as for the Sportsbet Specials for this tournament, yeah they haven't hit as they only put out one or two per matchday from what I had seen of them so far.
It hasn't had the exposure the tournament committee had hoped for since they were giving away hundred of tickets at the beginning of it just to fill up the empty seats.

Atleast the Philippines beat one of the host nations in yesterdays match against New Zealand for their first ever goal in their life of this tournament.
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Result for my WNBA bets and prediction,

Atlanta Dream (1.26) VS Phoenix Mercury (3.50) - WIN

It was near domination when the Atlanta Dream won against the Phoenix Mercury 78 - 65, it might be the injuries for the Mercury, but surely Brittney Griner and Megan Gustafson did tremendously but it was not enough for the Atlanta Dream's dominating performance, they indeed got a good spread for this game although Gustafson has a lead points for this game, Rhyne Howard made 10 points for this game, Aarion McDonald has 11 points and both Allisha Gray and AD Durr both have 12 points



Dallas Wings (1.57) VS Connecticut Sun (2.26) - WIN

A close game indeed, for these two teams I was really Surprise because it was a close game but I won the underdog bet, for the Connecticut Sun, Teaira McCowan, Satou Sabally and Arike Ogunbowale did a great job with this game but was not enough because the Connecticut Sun still has the pace, for this game Tiffany Hayes and DeWanna Bonner was all the Connecticut Sun need winning this game, Tiffany Hayes has 28 points and DeWanna Bonner got 32 points,



Los Angeles Sparks (1.48) VS Indiana Fever (2.47) - LOST

Close one, A very close one indeed, I lost this game by 1 point, but it was a great game to watch, Indiana Fever have a great spread, From Erica Wheeler, Kelsey Mitchell, and Victoria Vivians have a great deal spread but it was not really enough, Azura Stevens got 15 points, Jordin Canada has a double-double and Nneka Ogwumike did a great job in getting the win with only 1 point lead,


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I have a question for you guys but is WNBA as unpredictable as mens basketball and is the difference in quality as big as with football? Just noticed all you guys talking about it so it must be pretty good. Never watched to be honest, and never saw a SB special about it. So far WWC specials not hitting.

Which is my next question why are we not discussing WWC when its the current SB promo? Tongue Looking for tips!

Well, we got a dedicated thread for the WNBA for whoever wants to engage in the discussion about the WNBA or maybe the NBA and we also post our bets and predictions on the Current games that we have in the WNBA, well for me I got decent winnings with my predictions by looking at the injuries and looking at their previous game on who's might be winning, for now, the in the Eastern Conference New York Liberty, Connecticut Sun, and Atlanta Dream going to that sequence 1st seed going to the 3rd seed while the Western Conference has Las Vegas Aces, Dallas Wings, and Minnesota Lynx and going with that sequence the 1st seed to the 3rd seed, and the defending champion the Las Vegas Aces, is pretty much dominating each game, well just go on to our thread if you are interested in it, for me it is pretty much easy betting for the WNBA than with the NBA,



Now this is the result of my bet and prediction on games Yesterday, and just like what you see I got 4 out of 5 wins,

Chicago Sky VS Las Vegas Aces SCORE 95 - 107 - WIN

Pretty much a close game and the Chicago Sky have done their all in winning this game with Courtney William's double-double, Marina Mabrey, Elizabeth Williams, and the game's lead scorer Kahleah Copper that got 37 points on this game but it was not enough in winning the game with Aces, Jackie Young's 15 points, Chelsea Gray's 22 points, A'ja Wilson's 24 points, and Kelsey Plum's 27 points, winning the game

New York Liberty VS Seattle Storm SCORE 86 - 82 - WIN

This another close game I really thought I would lose this game but the Liberty is not a slack team for sure, Sabrina Ionescu has a triple-double of 12 rebounds 12 assists, and 12 points for this game and Breanna Stewart was on the lead for this game, surely it was a win for me so I was really happy with the result

Atlanta Dream VS Phoenix Mercury SCORE 78 - 65 - WIN

The Atlanta Dream was pretty much great against the Phoenix Mercury the only one present for the Mercury was Brittney Griner and Megan Gustafson, but the Atlanta Dream has a pretty much great spread for this game, and I was really happy with the result,

Dallas Wings VS Connecticut Sun SCORE 83 - 88 - WIN

I was surprised by the Dallas Wings but surely because of the odds I think it was pretty much accurate, and nice winning the underdog team for me, Tiffany Hayes and DeWanna Bonner did a pretty much good job for this game Hayes Currently getting 28 points and Bonner 32 lead points for this game,

Los Angeles Sparks VS Indiana Fever SCORE 79 - 78 - LOST

And lastly, the only game I wasn't happy with and the opponent won with just 1 point, pretty much I was frustrated because I am near to having a perfect bet, well the Indiana Fever have surely covered the spread for this game but with just 1 point the Sparks was lucky Jordin Canada has a double-double of 10 assist and 20 points, Azura Stevens got 15 points and Nneka Ogwumike got 30 points losing this 1 game,


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I have a question for you guys but is WNBA as unpredictable as mens basketball and is the difference in quality as big as with football? Just noticed all you guys talking about it so it must be pretty good. Never watched to be honest, and never saw a SB special about it. So far WWC specials not hitting.

Which is my next question why are we not discussing WWC when its the current SB promo? Tongue Looking for tips!
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My full bet and picks for the WNBA games for today

Chicago Sky VS Las Vegas Aces

The odds for this game are 7.20 for the Sky and 1.06 for the Aces, right now Rebekah Gardner and Isabelle Harrison can not play for the Sky while Candace Parker and Riquna Williams can not play for the Aces, this game Surely enough the Sky is not playing at their 100% form, making mistake and losses, back to back while the Aces Candace Parker was injured and can not play today but the Las Vegas Aces still got good players to play the game with domination so my pick for this game is the Las Vegas Aces,

New York Liberty VS Seattle Storm

The odds for this game are 1.05 for Liberty and 7.60 for the Storm, right now Stefanie Dolson and Han Xu can not play for the Liberty, while Jordan Horston can not play for the Storm, with this game the Seattle Storm Jordan Horston is a key player for them while the 2 injuries of the Liberty is really nothing so for this game the New York Liberty could be in their dominance form again with this game so my pick is the New York Liberty,

Atlanta Dream VS Phoenix Mercury

The odds for this game are 1.26 for the Dream and 3.50 for the Mercury, right now the Dream doesn't have any injuries while Skylar Diggins-Smith and Diana Taurasi can not play for the Phoenix Mercury, for this game the Atlanta Dream is at their 100% form while the Mercury doesn't have Taurasi that is a Crucial player, so my pick for this game is the Atlanta Dream,

Dallas Wings VS Connecticut Sun

The odds for this game are 1.57 for the Wings and 2.26 for the Sun, right now Lou Lopez Senechal and Diamond DeShields can not play for the Wings while Brionna Jones can not play for the Connecticut Sun, this is the 1st time the Dallas Wings will go against the Connecticut Sun, while Brionna Jones can not play for the Connecticut Sun I really think it will not affect the other players of the Sun to do more, so I am going with the Underdog, and my pick is the Connecticut Sun,

Los Angeles Sparks VS Indiana Fever

The odds for this game are 1.48 for the Sparks and 2.47 for the Fever, right now Katie Lou Samuelson is out for this season, while her sister Karlie Samuelson is doubtful if she can play for the Sparks, and Nia Clouden and Chiney Ogwumike can not play on this game for the Sparks while NaLyssa Smith can not play for the Indiana Fever, for this game there are a lot of injuries for the Sparks while the Fever got only one, for this game I am still going with the Underdog aswell my pick is the Indiana Fever,


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Having these Wnba matches is a blessing in disguise to be able to watch from the most recent news of LeBron's son having a cardiac arrest while on the court at his college school practice. So of course these matches will have a moment of silence being played tonight for a speedy recovery to the young basket ball player:
Mercury vs Dream
Storm vs Liberty
Aces vs Sky
Sun vs Wings
Fever vs Sparks

Much agreed @danherbias07 betting live would probably be a better choice except for the heavy favorites such as the Aces, Liberty and Dream.

Yes! I have seen that news about Bronny and wish him a fast recovery at a young age of playing basketball all hope that it is not that huge of a deal and the boy could return to playing basketball,

So here are my bet for the WNBA I am going with only 3 games because the odds on the 2 games were so high,

Atlanta Dream (1.26) VS Phoenix Mercury (3.50)

The Atlanta Dream is having a game against the Phoenix Mercury at Gateway Center Arena, for this game the Atlanta Dream doesn't have any injuries Skylar Diggins-Smith has a personal problem, and Diana Taurasi has a Quadricep injury and both players can not play for the Phoenix Mercury, for this game, Diana Taurasi has proven that she is needed for this game and because she is out right now my pick is the Atlanta Dream



Dallas Wings (1.57) VS Connecticut Sun (2.26)

The Dallas Wings are having a game against the Connecticut Sun at College Park Center, for this game, Lou Lopez Senechal has a knee injury, and Diamond DeShields also has a knee injury and both can not play for the Dallas Wings, while Brionna Jones has an Achilles injury and can not play for the Connecticut Sun, for this game the Connecticut Sun has proven they can win even without Brionna Jones, and this is the 1st time the Dallas Wings would have a game against the Connecticut Sun so my pick for this game is the underdog the Connecticut Sun,



Los Angeles Sparks (1.48) VS Indiana Fever (2.47)

The Los Angeles Sparks is having a game against the Indiana Fever, at Crypto.com Arena, for this game Katie Lou Samuelson is now out for this season because of Personal Problem, Nia Clouden has a knee injury, and Chiney Ogwumike has a foot injury, and both can not play for the Los Angeles Sparks and Karlie Samuelson has a knee injury and is doubtful if she can play for the Sparks, while NaLyssa Smith has a foot injury and can not play for the Indiana Fever, for this game I think that the Los Angeles Sparks is out of form while the Indiana Fever is something that can surprise other teams even without Smith to the team that is why I am also going with the underdog the Indiana Fever,


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Having these Wnba matches is a blessing in disguise to be able to watch from the most recent news of LeBron's son having a cardiac arrest while on the court at his college school practice. So of course these matches will have a moment of silence being played tonight for a speedy recovery to the young basket ball player:
Mercury vs Dream
Storm vs Liberty
Aces vs Sky
Sun vs Wings
Fever vs Sparks

Much agreed @danherbias07 betting live would probably be a better choice except for the heavy favorites such as the Aces, Liberty and Dream.
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Tomorrow, 5 games are listed in the WNBA. For those who like making a parlay or just adding it to their set, this is a good opportunity.

Chicago Sky versus Las Vegas Aces - Las Vegas Aces (-14.5) - So far I had been winning my bets for the Aces even though the handicap is that far. This will be the third time I am betting for a -14.5 and I wish it will be another one. They are a strong team so there's always a chance for the spread to be covered and they also don't play garbage time even with a big lead like last time against the Minnesota Lynx.

New York Liberty versus Seattle Storm - New York Liberty (-15.5) - My favorite team and at home, I do believe they could cover the spread too.

Atlanta Dream versus Phoenix Mercury - Atlanta Dream (-6.5)

Dallas Wings versus Connecticut Sun - Connecticut Sun ML @2.05

The last game Los Angeles Sparks versus Indiana Fever, I'll bet at live games.
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EPL has a USA tour which started and running until the end of July.
Two matches were played already and Newcastle ending in a draw 3-3 to Aston Villa last night.
Here are the remaining games left on the tour:

Great way to see new signings only down side there are only 6 EPL teams in this summer league.
There is a points systems to fight for a cup at the end.
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Nice result even though there is one loss you still got 2 out of 3 wins, and because you have shared the result of your bet here is mine, for the Aspinall vs Tybura

Tom Aspinall vs Marcin Tybura - WIN

Pretty much I was excited about this fight for sure because I really know how Tom Aspinall fights he will surely go into that fight with a technical perspective, and I really like what he did against Marcin Tybura a technical knockout for the win for her, and I like where Tom Aspinall should be moving forward to because that means he is near a title shot for sure,

Molly McCann vs Julija Stoliarenko - WIN

Julija Stoliarenko did a great win against Molly McCann and that armbar was because Molly McCann struggle a lot in wanting to lose Stoliarenko's grip, it was set up by Julija Stoliarenko but it was finished by McCann, but for sure Erin Blanchfield just pulled it off with perfection but surely Molly McCann is really struggling when the fight is brought to the ground,

Nathaniel Wood vs Andre Fili - WIN

Amazing performance by Nathaniel Wood, even though it is not a knockout, it was a near one when he showed his punching speed to Andre Fili, but surely it was really a remarkable win for Wood, and the judges can not cover the facts that the accuracy in his punches is really authentic,




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Just Sharing my bet result for the UFC Fight Night: Aspinall vs. Tybura

Tom Aspinall VS Marcin Tybura ROUND 1 KO/TKO - WIN

Tom Aspinall was doing great and I was really surprised by his movement he moves like a Light Heavyweight that is for sure and has given a hardtime against Marcin Tybura that is surely 1 amazing performance from Aspinall returning from an injury the speed and precision were really there when he fights Marcin Tybura, that striking output was really massive against Tybura, for sure Tom Aspinal is ready maybe a rematch against Curtis Blaydes, or taking on Sergei Pavlovich that will be a great fight to watch,

Nathaniel Wood VS Andre Fili ROUND 3 DECISION - WIN

Now this fight for me Nathaniel Wood is so fast his punch has some speed that Andre Fili can not anticipate however there is an error in his game that Andre Fili has capitalized and I think that surely has put some regret in him for not making the fight a KO win for him, but surely Andre Fili is one tough fighter to crack for sure and Nathaniel Wood is really expecting a knockout win but instead it becomes a Decision win, for Nathaniel Wood,

Lerone Murphy VS Josh Culibao ROUND 3 DECISION - LOST

Just like I have said Joshua Culibao will be having a hard time against Lerone "The Miracle" Murphy the undefeated stayed undefeated for sure, actually after this fight now I really think that Lerone Murphy is a real deal but I would like to see his against a grappler or Wrestler for sure while I lost because this bet is support for a fellow Filipino I already have said that Lerone Murphy has the upper hand but still I really want to not only support Culibao in this fight but to maybe Josh Culibao can surely be surprising at some of his fights,


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Here are my picks and prediction for the UFC Fight Night: Aspinall vs. Tybura

Tom Aspinall vs Marcin Tybura

Now for this fight, I am really excited about the return of Tom Aspinall for sure from his knee injury I was really saddened by the way he lost to Curtis Blaydes I really think he doesn't deserve it, but it really happens so we can not do something about it for this fight Tom Aspinall is a dedicated guy he would surely prepare whoever his opponent is, and for this fight, I think that he is more technical when it comes to the striking department, while Marcin Tybura is a cool looking guy but I really don't expect him to brawl against Aspinall that much because he is aware of Tom's technical striking, for sure he will wait for an opening and a mistake and will capitalize on that when it comes to the ground surely both fighters got that aswell so this means the fight may go in the ground, but my pick for this fight is Tom Aspinall,

Molly McCann vs Julija Stoliarenko

For this fight, Molly McCann is a sure brawler and the weakness for such a striker is a certain wrestler like Julija Stoliarenko, if you look at McCann's record 2 lost for Submission and no win when it comes to submission this could be a walk in a park for Julija Stoliarenko, but she doesn't want to make any delicate mistake against Molly McCann because McCann has a power shot and 1 hit is all she needs to finish Julija Stoliarenko but if she improve her takedown defense then that will be a big problem for Julija Stoliarenko, but my pick is still Julija Stoliarenko for the win,

Nathaniel Wood vs Andre Fili

Pretty much this can be a close one, both are well rounded but Nathaniel Wood has a slick style and is well-versed in stand-up pretty much boxing if he can find an opening and use the Distance for this fight he might have a shot because Nathaniel Wood is shorter than Wood, that many are concerning about going into Nathaniel Wood, but for me my pick will be Nathaniel Wood,




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By the way, USWNT opened the last World Cup with a 13-0 victory, Alex Morgan scoring five goals in that game. Given the disparity in quality between these two teams, expect to see 40+ goal attempts and possibly a double-digit score. When one team has a big lead in women's football, they rarely take their foot off the gas, instead, they keep on scoring. It's going to be a long day for Vietnam's team...


I think i'm more interested in Zambia and Japan match. Look at the time/date of my quote:

Zambian team with almost no friendlies played in preparation for the Olympics, complete underdogs at +15000, with the exception of their captain, who was actually pretty great, the others are absolutely god awful, including their center backs and goalie, who were comical. <...>

..i was talking about Barbra Banda and she is scoring at least one today, mark my words! She had two in their last friendly against Germany.

edit; i can't catch a break this week, some of the ugliest bad beats i've had in a while.
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What a start for the hosts of the tournament one breaking a 32 year and 15 match winless drought.

Just watching the highlights and the Kiwis beat the favorites Norway with a goal right after the halftime restart.
Aussies had a penalty kick near the 51st minute mark to seal their victory against the Republic of Ireland.
Amazing isnt it? I guess co hosts have so much inspiration from the crowd it really helps.

I wish I could participate in those picks but my promos got taken down again a few months back and I hate asking Steve all the time.

Anyway good luck to all who did, seems as if you must put in low scores now.
The FIFA Womens World Cup has been the main sports event to be happening at the moment until the EPL restarts next month, so we have something to watch atleast.
Sportsbet.io had interviewed the Southampton FC Women's head coach which was put up on the 20th so very recently.
Go to the link to check it out:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/soccer/news/in-the-clubhouse-marieanne-spacey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws4pCpqOvj0

New 4-3-free promotion is out according to an email received yesterday for FIFA Womens World Cup:


https://sportsbet.io/sports/4-3-free


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What a start for the hosts of the tournament one breaking a 32 year and 15 match winless drought.

Just watching the highlights and the Kiwis beat the favorites Norway with a goal right after the halftime restart.
Aussies had a penalty kick near the 51st minute mark to seal their victory against the Republic of Ireland.

Amazing isnt it? I guess co hosts have so much inspiration from the crowd it really helps.

I wish I could participate in those picks but my promos got taken down again a few months back and I hate asking Steve all the time Smiley

Anyway good luck to all who did, seems as if you must put in low scores now Smiley
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Here are the result of Yesterday's game for the WNBA

Connecticut Sun (1.35) VS Atlanta Dream (2.95) - WIN

A very close game indeed, just like I have said the Atlanta Dream is leaving in the 1st half until the Connecticut Sun said it was enough, and then they have pull a comeback and led it in the 2nd half of the game-winning this with a great lead, The Atlanta Dream is doing their all in the game Allisha Gray, Nia Coffey, and Rhyne Howard did a great performance for the Atlanta Dream but it was not enough because the Connecticut Sun turn the tables for this game Alyssa Thomas has a double-double of 11, rebounds and 12 points,  Rebecca Allen and DeWanna Bonner both got 13 points, and Natisha Hiedeman got 24 points winning the game against the Dream,





Now my bet for the games today

Minnesota Lynx (1.64) VS Los Angeles Sparks (2.12)

Minnesota Lynx Injury list Rachel Banham has a Thumb injury, Aerial Powers has an Ankle injury, Jessica Shepard has an Illness and Natalie Achonwa has a Personal problem, while Los Angeles Sparks injury list is Chiney Ogwumike has a Foot injury, Lexie Brown has an Illness, Layshia Clarendon has a Foot injury, Nia Clouden has a Knee injury, and Katie Lou Samuelson has a Personal problem so for this game The Minnesota Lynx is my picks



Phoenix Mercury (2.06) VS Chicago Sky (1.68)

Phoenix Mercury injury list Diana Taurasi has a Hamstring and is Questionable if they can still play Skylar Diggins-Smith has a Personal problem Rebekah Gardner has a Foot injury, and Isabelle Harrison has a Knee so for this one I will be putting my bet for the Phoenix Mercury,



Seattle Storm (9.60) VS Las Vegas Aces (1.03)

Jewell Loyd has a Foot injury and is Questionable if she can play, Candace Parker has an Ankle injury and Riquna Williams has a Back injury for this one my pick is Las Vegas Aces, winning


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