Topic: sportsbet.io confiscated my money $18919 - page 4. (Read 1987 times)
I can't understand some of your statements, because what you said on the opening post and the other posts that follows are rather inconsistent. I'll try to snip without changing the point of the statement. Statement made in screenshot will be written in qoted text with the link to the image source below them. Your earlier post will be marked in red and the statements that follows and contradicted it will be in scarlet.
From this earliest part of your evidence, we can conclude that you're sure you don't have any other accout, but in a good gesture and as you won't mislead --misrepresent, in your words-- SB's representative, you're open to a suggestion that there's a possibility you had those account mentioned and forgot about them, and you tried to log-in with your password.
The situation you tried to paint here on the opening post is that you don't have any other account, but there's a possibility that --in a good gesture and form of cooperation-- you might had (an) account(s) in the past and forgot about them.
Then you said,
It'll be relatively understandable if someone created an account in the past with one of their email, and then forgot about it and created another one with their other email years later. But --at least-- three different emails with eight --including this one-- different accounts?
Another interesting thing to point out is that although you know you have a habit of creating an account and stopped --more about this below on inconsistency #2 and other point at the end of my post-- to take a break, you insisted on having no other account on the earliest part of your exchange of communication with SB.
If you're truly honest and clueless and innocent, the "I did. I had "hknays" and "aysugnr" before, but they're officially closed, below is the screenshot --or the forwarded email-- of my request" or, "I probably had. I have this habit of creating an account and stopped to take a break. Can you inform me those username, please?" would solve a lot of things. You can even said this anywhere from your opening post up to the point where SB gave their counter-evidence, and you didn't. Why?
Next, coming from the same post as above,
So, all of the other seven accounts you previously had, were you stopped playing using them because you won and withdrawn, and thus you've made SB your very personal sugar daddy and walking ATM, or because you keep losing and need to take a break, thus you didn't profited at all from SB?
Next, bonus and perks. In one of your email to request an account closure, you said this,
You can just use the "other" option as your answer, and you choose that you wanted to close your account because you deemed them to give insufficient reward. Why?
Next, you use TnC 10.1 as your defense, which specify that account that's been closed would also be released from TnC.
By this rule, if they suspected that you registered an account in attempt to hide your betting activity, they reserve the right to ban you. To make it even more glaring, I'm referring to the activity where you possibly milked the bonus system, drained it on that account, feels them "insufficient", closed your account, and create a new one.
Let's suppose you did close your account for the sole reason of wanting to take a break after a big win --or lost-- an interesting thing to point out is the timestamp of the email for account closure, aysugnr on 31 October 2022 and hknays on 19 November 2022.
You're saying, according to your narrative, you had aysugnr, feels enough and need to take a break, asked for an account closure, and then less than 19 days later decided that you wanted some fun, created a new account with new email address, and asked for another account closure within a very short timeframe because you need a break, and created a yet new one... in less than one month after it?
[In reply to the question if you have previously opened an account]
[Sportsbet's representative then mentioned several names they flagged and asked if you're familiar with them]
[SB's representative explained the clause they deemed you've violated, not specific, but can be inferred that it's the point of multi-acc]
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Hello,
I don't have another account
Thank you
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Thank you
[Sportsbet's representative then mentioned several names they flagged and asked if you're familiar with them]
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You also flagged me for using multiple accounts. I don't want to misrepresent you. So, considering the possibility of any account that I have opened and forgotten before, when I try to enter with any password, I see that the accounts which you claim to have a connection with me in the previous email, are closed. I was really surprised by this situation.
https://i.hizliresim.com/2r7lq7a.jpeg | https://i.hizliresim.com/lii5r58.jpeg[SB's representative explained the clause they deemed you've violated, not specific, but can be inferred that it's the point of multi-acc]
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I have informed you that I do not have any other account, [...]
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From this earliest part of your evidence, we can conclude that you're sure you don't have any other accout, but in a good gesture and as you won't mislead --misrepresent, in your words-- SB's representative, you're open to a suggestion that there's a possibility you had those account mentioned and forgot about them, and you tried to log-in with your password.
The situation you tried to paint here on the opening post is that you don't have any other account, but there's a possibility that --in a good gesture and form of cooperation-- you might had (an) account(s) in the past and forgot about them.
Then you said,
[...]
You accuse me of using multiple accounts, but I don't have an active account other than my snne username. When you asked me if you knew these accounts, I checked that they were closed so as not to give you false information and they were. You confiscated my money without giving you an answer that I was linked to those accounts. Those e-mail addresses belong to me and are accounts that I have closed before. [...]
You accuse me of using multiple accounts, but I don't have an active account other than my snne username. When you asked me if you knew these accounts, I checked that they were closed so as not to give you false information and they were. You confiscated my money without giving you an answer that I was linked to those accounts. Those e-mail addresses belong to me and are accounts that I have closed before. [...]
It'll be relatively understandable if someone created an account in the past with one of their email, and then forgot about it and created another one with their other email years later. But --at least-- three different emails with eight --including this one-- different accounts?
Another interesting thing to point out is that although you know you have a habit of creating an account and stopped --more about this below on inconsistency #2 and other point at the end of my post-- to take a break, you insisted on having no other account on the earliest part of your exchange of communication with SB.
If you're truly honest and clueless and innocent, the "I did. I had "hknays" and "aysugnr" before, but they're officially closed, below is the screenshot --or the forwarded email-- of my request" or, "I probably had. I have this habit of creating an account and stopped to take a break. Can you inform me those username, please?" would solve a lot of things. You can even said this anywhere from your opening post up to the point where SB gave their counter-evidence, and you didn't. Why?
Next, coming from the same post as above,
You accuse me of using multiple accounts, but I don't have an active account other than my snne username. When you asked me if you knew these accounts, I checked that they were closed so as not to give you false information and they were. You confiscated my money without giving you an answer that I was linked to those accounts. Those e-mail addresses belong to me and are accounts that I have closed before.I took a break from gambling to think about myself. Because I usually lose and when I made a profit I wanted to take a break. The next time I wanted to have fun, I opened a new account. [...]
No, I did not use any bonuses or promotions in any of my accounts. I bet with my own money. I generally lost. When I won, I withdraw my money and stopped gambling.
Hi
No, I did not use kyc in my other (closed) accounts. On my account with the username snne, they questioned me not to give the money because I by luck won a large amount on my first withdrawal. They don't give my money even though I did it correctly. KYC was not requested in my closed accounts. Probably because I usually lost. There was no money they could confiscate.
No, I did not use kyc in my other (closed) accounts. On my account with the username snne, they questioned me not to give the money because I by luck won a large amount on my first withdrawal. They don't give my money even though I did it correctly. KYC was not requested in my closed accounts. Probably because I usually lost. There was no money they could confiscate.
So, all of the other seven accounts you previously had, were you stopped playing using them because you won and withdrawn, and thus you've made SB your very personal sugar daddy and walking ATM, or because you keep losing and need to take a break, thus you didn't profited at all from SB?
Next, bonus and perks. In one of your email to request an account closure, you said this,
I have not collected no perks from my other (closed) accounts. I know that when I create an account, I accept their terms and conditions. According to their rule, condition 10.1, when the account is closed, the rules and conditions lose their validity. You can find it in the screenshot I attached.
I'm lucky they gave me the money I deposited, right? They confiscated my $18919 money! are you kidding me?
I'm lucky they gave me the money I deposited, right? They confiscated my $18919 money! are you kidding me?
You can just use the "other" option as your answer, and you choose that you wanted to close your account because you deemed them to give insufficient reward. Why?
Next, you use TnC 10.1 as your defense, which specify that account that's been closed would also be released from TnC.
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Under rule 18.1.
18.1. Without restricting our ability to rely on other remedies that may be available to us, we may suspend and/or terminate your account, cancel any outstanding bets and/or confiscate any or all funds in your account at our absolute discretion if:
(i) we suspect that you are engaging in money laundering, illegal or other fraudulent activity while using our Website; or
(ii) we suspect that you are depositing funds which have been obtained unlawfully or in a clearly and seriously debase manner; or
(iii) we obtain evidence that you are part of a betting syndicate where several parties are involved in placing bets in order to evade the Sportsbook Rules, these Terms and Conditions or any other rules of Sportsbet.io; or
(iv) we determine that you are using any device, robot, spider, software, routine or other method (or anything in the nature of the foregoing) to interfere or attempt to interfere with the normal proper functioning of our services, any relevant device(s), software, the Website, the casino games, the sportsbook and betting information or any transactions offered on the Website and in particular will not employ or make use of any artificial intelligence or other system (including machines, computers, software or any other automated systems) designed specifically to defeat the Sportsbet.io systems; or
(v) we determine that you are colluding or attempt to collude with other players in order to defraud Sportsbet.io or its customers; or
(vi) we determine that you are breaching any term of these Terms and Conditions;
(vii) we determine that you are acting in a manner that is detrimental to the conduct of our business; or
(viii) we determine that you are using Sportsbet.io in a manner that gives you an unfair advantage, for example basing bets on insight or professional knowledge about a sport gained via personal involvement or participation in the particular field of sport; or
(ix) we suspect that you have registered, manage or direct your betting activity on multiple user accounts in an attempt to hide your betting activity or bypass our set trading limits; or
(x) we suspect that your account is being used for the benefit of a third party; or
(xi) we obtain evidence that by registering new accounts you have violated Sportsbet.io direct order not to continue your betting activity on our site. Sportsbet.io has the right to confiscate any deposits on accounts registered by users previously found in violation or disregard of previous warnings of the above terms and conditions.
[...]
Under rule 18.1.
18.1. Without restricting our ability to rely on other remedies that may be available to us, we may suspend and/or terminate your account, cancel any outstanding bets and/or confiscate any or all funds in your account at our absolute discretion if:
(i) we suspect that you are engaging in money laundering, illegal or other fraudulent activity while using our Website; or
(ii) we suspect that you are depositing funds which have been obtained unlawfully or in a clearly and seriously debase manner; or
(iii) we obtain evidence that you are part of a betting syndicate where several parties are involved in placing bets in order to evade the Sportsbook Rules, these Terms and Conditions or any other rules of Sportsbet.io; or
(iv) we determine that you are using any device, robot, spider, software, routine or other method (or anything in the nature of the foregoing) to interfere or attempt to interfere with the normal proper functioning of our services, any relevant device(s), software, the Website, the casino games, the sportsbook and betting information or any transactions offered on the Website and in particular will not employ or make use of any artificial intelligence or other system (including machines, computers, software or any other automated systems) designed specifically to defeat the Sportsbet.io systems; or
(v) we determine that you are colluding or attempt to collude with other players in order to defraud Sportsbet.io or its customers; or
(vi) we determine that you are breaching any term of these Terms and Conditions;
(vii) we determine that you are acting in a manner that is detrimental to the conduct of our business; or
(viii) we determine that you are using Sportsbet.io in a manner that gives you an unfair advantage, for example basing bets on insight or professional knowledge about a sport gained via personal involvement or participation in the particular field of sport; or
(ix) we suspect that you have registered, manage or direct your betting activity on multiple user accounts in an attempt to hide your betting activity or bypass our set trading limits; or
(x) we suspect that your account is being used for the benefit of a third party; or
(xi) we obtain evidence that by registering new accounts you have violated Sportsbet.io direct order not to continue your betting activity on our site. Sportsbet.io has the right to confiscate any deposits on accounts registered by users previously found in violation or disregard of previous warnings of the above terms and conditions.
[...]
By this rule, if they suspected that you registered an account in attempt to hide your betting activity, they reserve the right to ban you. To make it even more glaring, I'm referring to the activity where you possibly milked the bonus system, drained it on that account, feels them "insufficient", closed your account, and create a new one.
Let's suppose you did close your account for the sole reason of wanting to take a break after a big win --or lost-- an interesting thing to point out is the timestamp of the email for account closure, aysugnr on 31 October 2022 and hknays on 19 November 2022.
You're saying, according to your narrative, you had aysugnr, feels enough and need to take a break, asked for an account closure, and then less than 19 days later decided that you wanted some fun, created a new account with new email address, and asked for another account closure within a very short timeframe because you need a break, and created a yet new one... in less than one month after it?
From a legal point of view, the bookmaker cannot close an account if the client has confirmed with a document. If he wants to have 100 accounts from one IP. I don't know why sportsbet is acting like a madman
You gotta be kidding right? This guy or gal win 18K USD for doing whatever shit that makes them increase there winning percentage through the use of multiple account. Sportsbet is known for easy and fast withdrawal no matter what the amount is. This guy violate the casino ToS and probably use it for there own advantage. Witnessing a case like this then follow up with another case from newbie prove the point of Steve that this people is part of an illegal group that target casino sportsbook.
You can't accuse me of fraud without any proof. I proved that I did not violated any rules. Steve presented me with an argument and I responded with my evidence. We are talking here by presenting evidence. It's frivolous to accuse people like you without proof. You should think twice before judging people in public.
Be happy you got some money back and quit being a loser.
I have not collected no perks from my other (closed) accounts. I know that when I create an account, I accept their terms and conditions. According to their rule, condition 10.1, when the account is closed, the rules and conditions lose their validity. You can find it in the screenshot I attached.
I'm lucky they gave me the money I deposited, right? They confiscated my $18919 money! are you kidding me?
From a legal point of view, the bookmaker cannot close an account if the client has confirmed with a document. If he wants to have 100 accounts from one IP. I don't know why sportsbet is acting like a madman
You gotta be kidding right? This guy or gal win 18K USD for doing whatever shit that makes them increase there winning percentage through the use of multiple account. Sportsbet is known for easy and fast withdrawal no matter what the amount is. This guy violate the casino ToS and probably use it for there own advantage. Witnessing a case like this then follow up with another case from newbie prove the point of Steve that this people is part of an illegal group that target casino sportsbook.
You can't accuse me of fraud without any proof. I proved that I did not violated any rules. Steve presented me with an argument and I responded with my evidence. We are talking here by presenting evidence. It's frivolous to accuse people like you without proof. You should think twice before judging people in public.
Be happy you got some money back and quit being a loser.
OP if you're confirming these are your accounts (that are closed), did you use different KYCs on these ones? I think that would definitely fall outside the rules
If you were trying to withdraw $19k were you overall down or up?
Hi If you were trying to withdraw $19k were you overall down or up?
No, I did not use kyc in my other (closed) accounts. On my account with the username snne, they questioned me not to give the money because I by luck won a large amount on my first withdrawal. They don't give my money even though I did it correctly. KYC was not requested in my closed accounts. Probably because I usually lost. There was no money they could confiscate.
OP if you're confirming these are your accounts (that are closed), did you use different KYCs on these ones? I think that would definitely fall outside the rules
If you were trying to withdraw $19k were you overall down or up?
If you were trying to withdraw $19k were you overall down or up?
From a legal point of view, the bookmaker cannot close an account if the client has confirmed with a document. If he wants to have 100 accounts from one IP. I don't know why sportsbet is acting like a madman
You gotta be kidding right? This guy or gal win 18K USD for doing whatever shit that makes them increase there winning percentage through the use of multiple account. Sportsbet is known for easy and fast withdrawal no matter what the amount is. This guy violate the casino ToS and probably use it for there own advantage. Witnessing a case like this then follow up with another case from newbie prove the point of Steve that this people is part of an illegal group that target casino sportsbook.
You can't accuse me of fraud without any proof. I proved that I did not violated any rules. Steve presented me with an argument and I responded with my evidence. We are talking here by presenting evidence. It's frivolous to accuse people like you without proof. You should think twice before judging people in public.
From a legal point of view, the bookmaker cannot close an account if the client has confirmed with a document. If he wants to have 100 accounts from one IP. I don't know why sportsbet is acting like a madman
You gotta be kidding right? This guy or gal win 18K USD for doing whatever shit that makes them increase there winning percentage through the use of multiple account. Sportsbet is known for easy and fast withdrawal no matter what the amount is. This guy violate the casino ToS and probably use it for there own advantage. Witnessing a case like this then follow up with another case from newbie prove the point of Steve that this people is part of an illegal group that target casino sportsbook.
Sportsbet has broken a lot of trust. I'm going to open a topic, the same thing happened to me. Completely close accounts with excess earnings for the same reason. Is everyone using multiple accounts, friend?
@Sportsbet.io does all the connected account is somehow all active since the OP didn’t deny the fact that it’s his but he didn’t use the other account anymore.
Aside from multiple account violations. what specific violation he do on sportbook side that make his profit void? I’m just assuming that his alibi about his other account that is not active anymore is valid for the sake of discussion.
@OP have a shame if you knew by yourself that you already busted. Do you use promotion or bonus on all of the account connected?
No, I did not use any bonuses or promotions in any of my accounts. I bet with my own money. I generally lost. When I won, I withdraw my money and stopped gambling. Aside from multiple account violations. what specific violation he do on sportbook side that make his profit void? I’m just assuming that his alibi about his other account that is not active anymore is valid for the sake of discussion.
@OP have a shame if you knew by yourself that you already busted. Do you use promotion or bonus on all of the account connected?
From a legal point of view, the bookmaker cannot close an account if the client has confirmed with a document. If he wants to have 100 accounts from one IP. I don't know why sportsbet is acting like a madman
@Sportsbet.io does all the connected account is somehow all active since the OP didn’t deny the fact that it’s his but he didn’t use the other account anymore.
Aside from multiple account violations. what specific violation he do on sportbook side that make his profit void? I’m just assuming that his alibi about his other account that is not active anymore is valid for the sake of discussion.
@OP have a shame if you knew by yourself that you already busted. Do you use promotion or bonus on all of the account connected?
Aside from multiple account violations. what specific violation he do on sportbook side that make his profit void? I’m just assuming that his alibi about his other account that is not active anymore is valid for the sake of discussion.
@OP have a shame if you knew by yourself that you already busted. Do you use promotion or bonus on all of the account connected?
https://sportsbet.imgix.net/2022/December/Senn2.png?w=800&auto=compress,enhance,format
Hi,
I went to respond to this last night.. but I decided to sleep on it. Im glad I did.
This is a simple case of a user who is part of a larger syndicate trying to work together to manipulate the sportsbook. This has certainly ramped up directly due to the World Cup effect.
Im all for paying out genuine bets if the price is right, and we are known for fast payouts and withdrawals.
However, we are not a charity.. and if you deliberately break normal industry terms and conditions standards, you will be caught.
The multi-accounting on this case is soooo blatant and LAZY that even the emails are the same - as above ^^ SO you can imagine what happens when we start checking device details.. it unravels like an Onion.
I mean - Icloud and Hotmail? this just shows you are not new to the game.
But the thing that got me, and the one fact I wanted to sleep on, is you tried to pass yourself of as an innocent female.
This means you have brought either your wife, girlfriend or a poor innocent female into your web of deceit and using them to try to add to your long list of accounts through KYC verification.
You were on top of us for a while and have withdrawn more than deposited. So you can have that money, but there will be no more financial transactions between your (many ) selves and sportsbet.io
With no surprises, I won't be spending any more time on this case.
I am fully enjoying other parts of the World Cup and the bitcointalk forum is pumping with excitement and interaction. I will be joining in.
regards,
Steve.
Sportsbet.io
first of all thanks for your answer.Hi,
I went to respond to this last night.. but I decided to sleep on it. Im glad I did.
This is a simple case of a user who is part of a larger syndicate trying to work together to manipulate the sportsbook. This has certainly ramped up directly due to the World Cup effect.
Im all for paying out genuine bets if the price is right, and we are known for fast payouts and withdrawals.
However, we are not a charity.. and if you deliberately break normal industry terms and conditions standards, you will be caught.
The multi-accounting on this case is soooo blatant and LAZY that even the emails are the same - as above ^^ SO you can imagine what happens when we start checking device details.. it unravels like an Onion.
I mean - Icloud and Hotmail? this just shows you are not new to the game.
But the thing that got me, and the one fact I wanted to sleep on, is you tried to pass yourself of as an innocent female.
This means you have brought either your wife, girlfriend or a poor innocent female into your web of deceit and using them to try to add to your long list of accounts through KYC verification.
You were on top of us for a while and have withdrawn more than deposited. So you can have that money, but there will be no more financial transactions between your (many ) selves and sportsbet.io
With no surprises, I won't be spending any more time on this case.
I am fully enjoying other parts of the World Cup and the bitcointalk forum is pumping with excitement and interaction. I will be joining in.
regards,
Steve.
Sportsbet.io
I'm a woman and I'm no one's tongs. I can prove it to you any way you want. Can't women bet? This sarcastic attitude is unprofessional, please change it. You accuse me of using multiple accounts, but I don't have an active account other than my snne username. When you asked me if you knew these accounts, I checked that they were closed so as not to give you false information and they were. You confiscated my money without giving you an answer that I was linked to those accounts. Those e-mail addresses belong to me and are accounts that I have closed before. I took a break from gambling to think about myself. Because I usually lose and when I made a profit I wanted to take a break. The next time I wanted to have fun, I opened a new account. I have never used those accounts at the same time, you can research it and see. You can understand this because those accounts are already closed. Also, I didn't do this on my own, I did it by researching. I saw that I could do this in terms and conditions 10.1 and I consulted live support about this issue. He said "if you close one account, you can open another account. It doesn't count as multiple accounts". (Proof screenshots are below.) I did not commit a rule violation. Please give me my earnings.
https://i.hizliresim.com/oprrw4u.jpeg
https://i.hizliresim.com/casy4hy.jpeg
https://i.hizliresim.com/akwiepu.jpeg
https://i.hizliresim.com/45o7sqd.jpeg (terms and condition 10.1)
Evidence that I have closed accounts:
https://i.hizliresim.com/9tu2v0a.jpeg
https://i.hizliresim.com/ln93pxw.jpeg
https://i.hizliresim.com/a19leo5.jpeg
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@OP, sportsbet.io has shown us the proof if you did multi accounting, i still can say, you are still lucky you can withdraw your deposit amount instead they blocked and suspense your account. They also said you did withdrew some money which you got from sportsbet before this (probably from multi accounting as well).
OP this is obvious case of multiple accounts being used to abuse sportsbet casino, so don't expect to hear from them on any of your email addresses 
You also deserve to have negative feedback on your forum account for cheating, lying and trying to get support from bitcointalk community.
You also deserve to have negative feedback on your forum account for cheating, lying and trying to get support from bitcointalk community.
Pretty cut and dry case of multi accounting from the screenshot steve has posted
Rules are there in place for a reason and as steve said they are a business too, everyone has bills.
OP your time would be better spent on finding a new book
Rules are there in place for a reason and as steve said they are a business too, everyone has bills.
OP your time would be better spent on finding a new book
I don't think I've violated anything. I sent them the link as you said. Thank you for your advice.
so what do you have to say for yourself OP? it looks like sportsbet.io has a very good reason to believe that you are breaking their terms and condition. unless you can unequivocally disprove their evidence I don't think you'll change their decision. just so we are clear, I am not siding with sportsbet or you. 
Hi,
I went to respond to this last night.. but I decided to sleep on it. Im glad I did.
This is a simple case of a user who is part of a larger syndicate trying to work together to manipulate the sportsbook. This has certainly ramped up directly due to the World Cup effect.
Im all for paying out genuine bets if the price is right, and we are known for fast payouts and withdrawals.
However, we are not a charity.. and if you deliberately break normal industry terms and conditions standards, you will be caught.
The multi-accounting on this case is soooo blatant and LAZY that even the emails are the same - as above ^^ SO you can imagine what happens when we start checking device details.. it unravels like an Onion.
I mean - Icloud and Hotmail? this just shows you are not new to the game.
But the thing that got me, and the one fact I wanted to sleep on, is you tried to pass yourself of as an innocent female.
This means you have brought either your wife, girlfriend or a poor innocent female into your web of deceit and using them to try to add to your long list of accounts through KYC verification.
You were on top of us for a while and have withdrawn more than deposited. So you can have that money, but there will be no more financial transactions between your (many ) selves and sportsbet.io
With no surprises, I won't be spending any more time on this case.
I am fully enjoying other parts of the World Cup and the bitcointalk forum is pumping with excitement and interaction. I will be joining in.
regards,
Steve.
Sportsbet.io
I don't think I've violated anything. I sent them the link as you said. Thank you for your advice.
first, you are lucky that you got your initial deposits back.
if you feel you haven't violated anything, regarding multi-accounting that they are alleging you. or any other terms from their ToS, you can reach out their rep from the forum, sportsbet.io account -
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sportsbetio-832366
try to be clear and straightforward with your situation. or maybe send this link to him.
if you feel you haven't violated anything, regarding multi-accounting that they are alleging you. or any other terms from their ToS, you can reach out their rep from the forum, sportsbet.io account -
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sportsbetio-832366
try to be clear and straightforward with your situation. or maybe send this link to him.
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