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Quote from: jademaxsuy on July 27, 2020, 09:20:11 PM

In other case like having internet connection then I guess it is just to hide their identity. IP address could be altered using these vpn. They are probably want to test something that coule benefit them. I hope it is not a scam activity.

The most common reason why people use VPN is because they have gambling banned in their country and they would not be allowed to access particular websites and more importantly they won't have any chance of registering an account. I have seen users from USA are mostly not allowed on some exchanges and gambling sites and they have to use a VPN to hide their identity.

I feel VPNs should not be a problem as long as the user using VPN has gambling allowed in their country because some day the casino might ask your identity verification and you will loose your money for no reason then because you have to reveal you were gambling illegally.

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Quote from: adam0991 on July 30, 2020, 12:04:37 PM

Of course Sportsbet are avoiding this thread.

They know they do allow most users to use a VPN but don’t want to put them off by setting the record straight.

They also know that by not answering, they can continue to pick and choose which users, when it suits them, they will use this as an excuse for not allowing them to withdraw their funds.

Probably but you do able to see some threads of complaints about funds being held up due to VPN issues? Can you site some example please..

For websites like Sportsbet which had been on this market for a while now then they do have their own set of rules and as a gambler if you do

have some extra time to read up the ToS then you would experience problems if you do just abide those.

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Of course Sportsbet are avoiding this thread.

They know they do allow most users to use a VPN but don’t want to put them off by setting the record straight.

They also know that by not answering, they can continue to pick and choose which users, when it suits them, they will use this as an excuse for not allowing them to withdraw their funds.

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Quote from: mardaed on July 29, 2020, 08:49:50 AM

Foremost, a user should always read the terms and conditions of the sites and be sure to abide with it. Now, if a user still try to twist things around, they should know the risk that may happen.
VPN is usually use to hide IP address and to secure a more stable internet connection, however, this has consequences both pros and cons.

well, if the function is only managing IPs, I don't think it's necessary because the compilation of gambling is the most important is the assets of money consisting of cryptocurrency at the gambling place, where the gambling compilation has problems, there are still those who use VPNs, there are still risks to be saved, so I don't think there is a need to use VPN and this VPN needs to be used to surf the internet still at the same speed.

Basically VPNs are used to hide the real IP and bypass the restricted sites from particular countries so having stable connections can be achieved without using VPNs as well.In gambling sites lot of money involves so they restrict people from some countries to avoid any issues for themselves legally and its individual responsibility to read the site's rules to avoid any issues for them.

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Quote from: mardaed on July 29, 2020, 08:49:50 AM

Foremost, a user should always read the terms and conditions of the sites and be sure to abide with it. Now, if a user still try to twist things around, they should know the risk that may happen.
VPN is usually use to hide IP address and to secure a more stable internet connection, however, this has consequences both pros and cons.

well, if the function is only managing IPs, I don't think it's necessary because the compilation of gambling is the most important is the assets of money consisting of cryptocurrency at the gambling place, where the gambling compilation has problems, there are still those who use VPNs, there are still risks to be saved, so I don't think there is a need to use VPN and this VPN needs to be used to surf the internet still at the same speed.

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Foremost, a user should always read the terms and conditions of the sites and be sure to abide with it. Now, if a user still try to twist things around, they should know the risk that may happen.
VPN is usually use to hide IP address and to secure a more stable internet connection, however, this has consequences both pros and cons.

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Quote from: yayayo on July 28, 2020, 01:23:42 AM

In my opinion the gambling sites offers promos for new signup accounts and I've read in some posts here about abusing these kind of promos gambling sites are offering. They create a new account then transfer money, get prize and withdrew the fund then use a VPN create a new account again and do the same thing by these kind of actions they take advantage on the gambling site itself that's why I think they preventing users to use VPN or immediately terminating their accounts.

Yes and sportsbet.io offer a lot of promotions and most of them are made in such a way that they can easily exploitable by making multiple accounts, for example they had a promotion that was giving away free bets and t-shirts to users for betting and the highest odds collectively would get prizes and one can easily make multiple accounts and cheat them.

I have made massive deposits and withdrawals from sportsbet.io and never had any problems with them at all so I don't know why suddenly they are being under heavy scrutiny recently and I would also like sportsbet to make a clear statement on this.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 28, 2020, 02:07:32 AM

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But one thing bothers me though.. What about those accounts that are subscribed to a provider that only provides shared IP addresses among their subscriber? Do they suffer the same consequences as the one using a VPN?

The answer should be "Yes" since there isn't any way to see difference in such case. Some internet provider have an option (free or with payment) to assign a specific IP to an user, but it depends a lot since there are a lot of companies running this business and legislation can change from Country to Country .

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Quote from: adam0991 on July 22, 2020, 01:47:37 PM

Because if they don’t allow the use of a VPN, then there’s a lot of users risking their funds with a company that could close their account in a heartbeat and seize their funds. (As its apparent they do this..)

If you look at the history and the terms and conditions they have you cannot risk using the site with a VPN or any proxy as they will connect your account with someone else's and you will not be able to play further but they will refund the amount in your account but highly unlikely they will provide with the winnings funds as i have not seen a situation that they refunded anyone having multiple accounts with their wins.

I think this is fair enough action of sportsbet.io, since, when found out that an account is using the same IP as the other one even though they are not related is technically considered as multi-accounting since the evidence is there. At least they refund the deposited fund to the account owner. So better be safe than sorry, avoid VPN to have that issue.

But one thing bothers me though.. What about those accounts that are subscribed to a provider that only provides shared IP addresses among their subscriber? Do they suffer the same consequences as the one using a VPN?

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In my opinion the gambling sites offers promos for new signup accounts and I've read in some posts here about abusing these kind of promos gambling sites are offering. They create a new account then transfer money, get prize and withdrew the fund then use a VPN create a new account again and do the same thing by these kind of actions they take advantage on the gambling site itself that's why I think they preventing users to use VPN or immediately terminating their accounts.

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Quote from: StephenJH on July 27, 2020, 05:30:47 PM

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Quote from: StephenJH on July 23, 2020, 04:09:21 PM

If you don't mind to get blocked, continue to use any gambling platform with the stated conditions.

I think no gamblers would want this, especially those who are betting a decent amount, a blocked account simply means a loss money, yet, you loss without betting it, that's too risky and I would not even try this. I don't know, but I think there are gambling sites that could cater us even if we are block at sportsbet, so why not look instead for other sites as an alternative than trying to cheap the system and face this kind of risk.

No, I know many gamblers who use the different conditions on their favor but catching them requires filtering KYC data one by one for all accounts. The purpose is not to cheat the terms&conditions, there is a reason why we discuss how to bypass the restrictions in smart ways. No one likes to get blocked or ignored by the support team especially the money is involved in the theme.

Multiple accounts are allowed at some gambling sites but for a real gambler it doesn't require more than one and if their country blocked it means they are not allowed to play anywhere in the world if they are living inside that country.They can bypass things very easily on internet but if they need to verify something then it will be really not possible though whih means our money loss as well.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on July 27, 2020, 09:20:11 PM

Quote from: Sadlife on July 24, 2020, 09:45:01 AM

VPN's are allowed with gambling casino's because some countries forbids online gambling and upon reading FAQ of most casino they do not mention the restriction's of VPN user. And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

VPN is one way to make a cheaper to obtain internet connection to those who are using mobile internet data but it could be detected by the network of you are using and then get confused why such a heavy data of consumption. As a result the simcard or the network will block you and then the only solution is to buy again another simcard for you to use the vpn again. This is the risk of vp if one is using the official sim card.

In other case like having internet connection then I guess it is just to hide their identity. IP address could be altered using these vpn. They are probably want to test something that coule benefit them. I hope it is not a scam activity.

they restrict that country it means gambling on that country is not legal , said by thier government so why are we going to insist to bypass this by using vpn ? that only shows that we cant obey rules . vpn primary use is to make you anonymous and not to reduce your internet cost or make it free but hackers found a way that by using vpn it can be able to do things mentioned earlier . using a vpn doesnt tag you as a heavy user but it depends on your usage

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Quote from: Sadlife on July 24, 2020, 09:45:01 AM

VPN's are allowed with gambling casino's because some countries forbids online gambling and upon reading FAQ of most casino they do not mention the restriction's of VPN user. And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

VPN is one way to make a cheaper to obtain internet connection to those who are using mobile internet data but it could be detected by the network of you are using and then get confused why such a heavy data of consumption. As a result the simcard or the network will block you and then the only solution is to buy again another simcard for you to use the vpn again. This is the risk of vp if one is using the official sim card.

In other case like having internet connection then I guess it is just to hide their identity. IP address could be altered using these vpn. They are probably want to test something that coule benefit them. I hope it is not a scam activity.

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 23, 2020, 06:32:19 PM

Quote from: StephenJH on July 23, 2020, 04:09:21 PM

If you don't mind to get blocked, continue to use any gambling platform with the stated conditions.

I think no gamblers would want this, especially those who are betting a decent amount, a blocked account simply means a loss money, yet, you loss without betting it, that's too risky and I would not even try this. I don't know, but I think there are gambling sites that could cater us even if we are block at sportsbet, so why not look instead for other sites as an alternative than trying to cheap the system and face this kind of risk.

No, I know many gamblers who use the different conditions on their favor but catching them requires filtering KYC data one by one for all accounts. The purpose is not to cheat the terms&conditions, there is a reason why we discuss how to bypass the restrictions in smart ways. No one likes to get blocked or ignored by the support team especially the money is involved in the theme.

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Quote from: matchi2011 on July 26, 2020, 01:38:38 AM

Quote from: akram143 on July 25, 2020, 09:49:13 AM

Never use VPN even if it doesn't goes against their terms of service because most people often face issues like account got frozen due to multiple accounts like with the same IP which always occurs while you are using VPN.

This is the risk when you use VPN, there's chances that same people are also doing the same and with that the site system will detect that same
person are also using multiple accounts, better to play if you are really well knowledgeable with each rules inside the terms of the site.

Yeah better to play by the book, casino won't be too interested for who you are or where you at to dive and research about your IP so you don't to worry about them seeing your IP, that's like your log in a physical casino. There are casino who lets you use of VPN, but they are reminding of what the risks you can face in the future if you do it, and there are some casino (mostly) that does prohibit it to avoid any legal concerns.

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There are some ways to buy dedicated IP for you so you can avoid most of the issues but still remember you are in the risk.

Risk can be lessen but there's still possibilities that problem may take place by using VPNs.

Thinking about it, it is very unusual for a two person to do the same thing on the internet with the same IP add they got from free applications, but it is not impossible. Prevention is better than cure!

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Quote from: akram143 on July 25, 2020, 09:49:13 AM

Never use VPN even if it doesn't goes against their terms of service because most people often face issues like account got frozen due to multiple accounts like with the same IP which always occurs while you are using VPN.

This is the risk when you use VPN, there's chances that same people are also doing the same and with that the site system will detect that same
person are also using multiple accounts, better to play if you are really well knowledgeable with each rules inside the terms of the site.

Quote from: akram143 on July 25, 2020, 09:49:13 AM

There are some ways to buy dedicated IP for you so you can avoid most of the issues but still remember you are in the risk.

Risk can be lessen but there's still possibilities that problem may take place by using VPNs.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 25, 2020, 02:10:46 AM

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As far as you can get a recommended VPN, I guess you will not have a problem to visit and play on the gambling site. Using that VPN, you can hide your real IP, and you can avoid tracking of your ISP provider. Or you can use TOR when you want to visit a gambling site. Maybe you can check on the other gambling site, which allows you to use a VPN.

Depends on the gambling's sites terms and conditions as not all gambling sites allows their players to use VPN. Hidding real IP is indeed something good for most gamblers as they want to play as anonymous as possible, but we should care about the terms of the gambling sites to avoid something unexpected in the future. In this case, it is better for OP to ask sportsbet.io directly through live support or email support or sending a pm to their bitcointalk representative account.

You are right. I think before we visit the gambling sites, we can activate the VPN so that we can hide real IP, and if we want to register on that site, we can directly know if that gambling site allows people to use VPN or not. We need to remember the IP because that is the IP that we will use to visit on that website. That is why it will be necessary if we have a private VPN, so we don't have to afraid of the IP will be shared with other members. That is a good suggestion to OP so that he can know by their support system.

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If you do try to read up their ToS. https://sportsbet.io/about/terms-and-conditions

Then you would able to find or read in 3. Registration and Opening of Your Member Account which you can able to play but be sure that your country doesnt really have any law
or restriction for its residents to get involved with gambling. This is why you should really be aware on possible risk.

Here in Australia many online gambling sites are blocked, or don't permit registration of their site - quite likely due to government registration restrictions. I've been having a look around this week and they all pretty much say the same thing.

Maybe some are only restricted but not all, and sometimes it is casino that restricts the country. As far as I know Australia has been very good in taking online gambling platforms, as it is seen a good tax income for the government as well as leisure for their citizens. In fact there is a data in 2015 that shows Australian spending the highest money in gambling in 2015, 6.8 million people gambling in a country is a no joke of number of gambler, it is huge actually so I don't think that they government would like to restrict their people from having entertainment.

You got the point and this one really depends on countries restriction and on sites decision if they would take gamblers from other countries unless if they are really mandated to do so.

Overall when it comes to regulation then it will vary on each country if they do block out gambling access into its citizens but we know that bypassing it using vpn is easy.

Website wouldnt really bother that much about legal matters but when severe problem do arise then they do have solid excuse for them to counter on.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on July 24, 2020, 09:07:49 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 22, 2020, 02:28:12 PM

If you do try to read up their ToS. https://sportsbet.io/about/terms-and-conditions

Then you would able to find or read in 3. Registration and Opening of Your Member Account which you can able to play but be sure that your country doesnt really have any law
or restriction for its residents to get involved with gambling. This is why you should really be aware on possible risk.

Here in Australia many online gambling sites are blocked, or don't permit registration of their site - quite likely due to government registration restrictions. I've been having a look around this week and they all pretty much say the same thing.

Maybe some are only restricted but not all, and sometimes it is casino that restricts the country. As far as I know Australia has been very good in taking online gambling platforms, as it is seen a good tax income for the government as well as leisure for their citizens. In fact there is a data in 2015 that shows Australian spending the highest money in gambling in 2015, 6.8 million people gambling in a country is a no joke of number of gambler, it is huge actually so I don't think that they government would like to restrict their people from having entertainment.

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Never use VPN even if it doesn't goes against their terms of service because most people often face issues like account got frozen due to multiple accounts liked with the same IP which always occurs while you are using VPN.There are some ways to buy dedicated IP for you so you can avoid most of the issues but still remember you are in the risk.

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