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Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 30, 2019, 05:06:52 AM

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 28, 2019, 04:23:15 AM

I want to ask how the odds work? Because I got curious about the odds of Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman (boxing)

-Why the odds spike too huge changes? It is normal?

When there's a big movement in the odds it means most sports bettors are putting their money on a team or player. Sometimes there could be an injury on a player that causes these movements. It's normal to see the odds in this match move towards Pacquiao since he has more fights recently than Thurman.

Thanks, there's could be major effects on the other side, like negative event happened to Keith Thurman that's why the odds spiked.
I'm just curious this since this is my first time encountered this (not only on boxing), the odds spiked too much for me.

It is normal for the odd to change when something impacting a certain events happen.If you see in sport betting the odds are constantly changing as more news become clear about the teams,which player will miss the game,which ones are injured and other information.That is how it works in almost all sport betting websites.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 30, 2019, 05:06:52 AM

Thanks, there's could be major effects on the other side, like negative event happened to Keith Thurman that's why the odds spiked.
I'm just curious this since this is my first time encountered this (not only on boxing), the odds spiked too much for me.

Expect that the odds will change as we go nearer to the date of match. As said by ralle14, those were typically the reasons why the odds changes and there's also a small logic to it, if the fighter has more demand expect that odds will definitely change.

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Quote from: alexrossi on June 30, 2019, 02:40:31 PM

It has happened also a couple of time with me, especially when the connection is not very good, so the polling rate is lower than normal and gradual variations are not shown, instead there is a spike.

Maybe it's on sportsbet's end or on their odds providers because sometimes I experience it as well but only on the live odds and I have a stable connection.

I didn't know that there's a relation having an unstable connection with odds.

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Quote from: alexrossi on June 30, 2019, 02:40:31 PM

It has happened also a couple of time with me, especially when the connection is not very good, so the polling rate is lower than normal and gradual variations are not shown, instead there is a spike.

Maybe it's on sportsbet's end or on their odds providers because sometimes I experience it as well but only on the live odds and I have a stable connection.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 30, 2019, 05:06:52 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on June 28, 2019, 05:30:41 AM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 28, 2019, 04:23:15 AM

I want to ask how the odds work? Because I got curious about the odds of Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman (boxing)

-Why the odds spike too huge changes? It is normal?

When there's a big movement in the odds it means most sports bettors are putting their money on a team or player. Sometimes there could be an injury on a player that causes these movements. It's normal to see the odds in this match move towards Pacquiao since he has more fights recently than Thurman.

Thanks, there's could be major effects on the other side, like negative event happened to Keith Thurman that's why the odds spiked.
I'm just curious this since this is my first time encountered this (not only on boxing), the odds spiked too much for me.

It has happened also a couple of time with me, especially when the connection is not very good, so the polling rate is lower than normal and gradual variations are not shown, instead there is a spike.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 28, 2019, 05:30:41 AM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 28, 2019, 04:23:15 AM

I want to ask how the odds work? Because I got curious about the odds of Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman (boxing)

-Why the odds spike too huge changes? It is normal?

When there's a big movement in the odds it means most sports bettors are putting their money on a team or player. Sometimes there could be an injury on a player that causes these movements. It's normal to see the odds in this match move towards Pacquiao since he has more fights recently than Thurman.

Thanks, there's could be major effects on the other side, like negative event happened to Keith Thurman that's why the odds spiked.
I'm just curious this since this is my first time encountered this (not only on boxing), the odds spiked too much for me.

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Quote from: leonair on June 28, 2019, 09:01:36 PM

In Cryptocurrency Coins prices, the Coinmarketcap(cryptocurrency market analysis) gathers the data to each of every exchanges that they've recognized then sums up and gets it average so just like in Sportbet.io it also tracks the average data to which these odds in favor to, you can compare it to other sports betting that they've almost the same.

Manny Pacquiao is a more experienced boxer than Keith Thurman and he's a small favorite.

Sportsbet did it once for a promotion but they don't always track the average data from different sportsbooks to set their lines. As Botnake mentioned they have their own odds provider, other sportsbook have similar odds because they could be using the same provider but have lower margin on certain markets.

To me using the average data just makes sense, and as you'd expect the odds do vary from provider to provided which is why its important to look around before placing your bet. It's just a matter of being a little smart before throwing away money

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Quote from: leonair on June 28, 2019, 09:01:36 PM

In Cryptocurrency Coins prices, the Coinmarketcap(cryptocurrency market analysis) gathers the data to each of every exchanges that they've recognized then sums up and gets it average so just like in Sportbet.io it also tracks the average data to which these odds in favor to, you can compare it to other sports betting that they've almost the same.

Manny Pacquiao is a more experienced boxer than Keith Thurman and he's a small favorite.

Sportsbet did it once for a promotion but they don't always track the average data from different sportsbooks to set their lines. As Botnake mentioned they have their own odds provider, other sportsbook have similar odds because they could be using the same provider but have lower margin on certain markets.

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Game-protect, why do you call them 'fantom'? There are just public conversations so that other people see who thinks what on which matters. After all, isn't this what bitcointalk is for? You keep accusing the company of scam, but if you truly want to be heard, perhaps it would be better if you provided some evidence? Surely, people wouldn't want to deal with scammers, but if the accusation is only based on emotions, then there aren't many reasons to believe what you say. And besides, did you explain how a scammer could close a multi-million dollar deal with Watford FC?

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on June 28, 2019, 09:14:29 PM

Quote from: leonair on June 28, 2019, 09:01:36 PM

In Cryptocurrency Coins prices, the Coinmarketcap(cryptocurrency market analysis) gathers the data to each of every exchanges that they've recognized then sums up and gets it average so just like in Sportbet.io it also tracks the average data to which these odds in favor to, you can compare it to other sports betting that they've almost the same.

That's not how sportsbooks work.

I agree, I believe sportsbook has odds provider and they just follow it, IMO, not all sportsbook has the same odds provider that's why we see in some sportsbook that they have more betting lines and odds, usually big sportsbook have the best odds provider.

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Quote from: leonair on June 28, 2019, 09:01:36 PM

In Cryptocurrency Coins prices, the Coinmarketcap(cryptocurrency market analysis) gathers the data to each of every exchanges that they've recognized then sums up and gets it average so just like in Sportbet.io it also tracks the average data to which these odds in favor to, you can compare it to other sports betting that they've almost the same.

That's not how sportsbooks work.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 28, 2019, 05:30:41 AM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 28, 2019, 04:23:15 AM

I want to ask how the odds work? Because I got curious about the odds of Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman (boxing)

-Why the odds spike too huge changes? It is normal?

When there's a big movement in the odds it means most sports bettors are putting their money on a team or player. Sometimes there could be an injury on a player that causes these movements. It's normal to see the odds in this match move towards Pacquiao since he has more fights recently than Thurman.

In Cryptocurrency Coins prices, the Coinmarketcap(cryptocurrency market analysis) gathers the data to each of every exchanges that they've recognized then sums up and gets it average so just like in Sportbet.io it also tracks the average data to which these odds in favor to, you can compare it to other sports betting that they've almost the same.

Manny Pacquiao is a more experienced boxer than Keith Thurman and he's a small favorite.

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Quote from: Botnake on June 27, 2019, 08:08:03 PM

Back to my betting schedule again.

We have two games today in PBA commissioner's cup,

First game I like the underdog which is the NLEX with 3.79 odds and in the 2nd game, I like the Barangay Ginebra as they are the best team in the PBA right now IMO. This conference we have imports so games are pretty unpredictable, underdog have some value also as it could also win.
The previous two games, IIRC all dogs won the game.

Good win with NLEX with 3.79 odds. I dont like to bet on PBA but maybe I will follow your plays
Or maybe you can start a nother thread if sportsbet doesnt want you to make too many posts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 28, 2019, 04:23:15 AM

I want to ask how the odds work? Because I got curious about the odds of Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman (boxing)

Last May 28, 2019. The odds on sportsbet.io are

Quote from: GreatArkansas on May 28, 2019, 11:56:07 PM

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Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
https://imgur.com/yKjkX57
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Odds now on sportsbet.io:

-Why the odds spike too huge changes? It is normal?

I think that the biggest variance is present in small leagues/matches where somebody could make a single big bet, and then the bookie would instantly need to adjust the lines sometimes in a very steep way.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 28, 2019, 05:30:41 AM

Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 28, 2019, 04:23:15 AM

I want to ask how the odds work? Because I got curious about the odds of Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman (boxing)

-Why the odds spike too huge changes? It is normal?

When there's a big movement in the odds it means most sports bettors are putting their money on a team or player. Sometimes there could be an injury on a player that causes these movements. It's normal to see the odds in this match move towards Pacquiao since he has more fights recently than Thurman.

If there is an injury we would have known it since it will be publish in the news, but if there's an inside info about a certain injury maybe that injury is for Thurman since he dropped from being a favorite at the start the line was open. I have a feeling that both are healthy as of now, and it's just that the oddsmaker are wrong in setting the opening line, this should be even 1.90 as the standard odds.

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Quote from: zebub2 on June 27, 2019, 05:48:32 AM

I tried again and now it seems to work (I'm on Chrome, haven't changed anything).

EDIT: It seems inconsistent. Sometimes works sometimes fails (inplay page works always, individual matches not always). Will check later again, not many inplay matches now.

Have you asked your ISP maybe the issue comes from them?

Quote from: zebub2 on June 27, 2019, 09:28:06 AM

This is unlikely to be on my side as "ralle14" posted similar experiences.

If this doesn't come from your end, let's wait until the devs finds out where the problem comes from.

Dota 2 time, Epicenter Major the last major for this year. While PSG.LGD and OG is live now, there's still 2 more matches that's good to bet which will commence after the said match.

There's also other interesting features to bet such as 1st barracks, 1st tower not just being the winner of the game. Sportsbet, will you add the first blood bet and first 10 kills?

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 28, 2019, 04:23:15 AM

I want to ask how the odds work? Because I got curious about the odds of Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman (boxing)

-Why the odds spike too huge changes? It is normal?

When there's a big movement in the odds it means most sports bettors are putting their money on a team or player. Sometimes there could be an injury on a player that causes these movements. It's normal to see the odds in this match move towards Pacquiao since he has more fights recently than Thurman.

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I want to ask how the odds work? Because I got curious about the odds of Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman (boxing)

Last May 28, 2019. The odds on sportsbet.io are

Quote from: GreatArkansas on May 28, 2019, 11:56:07 PM

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Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
https://imgur.com/yKjkX57
~

Odds now on sportsbet.io:

-Why the odds spike too huge changes? It is normal?

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Quote from: SyGambler on June 27, 2019, 05:57:37 PM

Quote from: tebo on June 27, 2019, 11:42:06 AM

Hello sportsbet.io ;

Can i ask that why dont you let your clients to bet on Racing markets ? All my bets need around 1-1.5 minute for match. And sometimes my bets get match with funny amounts like 1mbtc. ( Im not a big player , my max bet is 100€ ) I contacted live help tons of times and they say ' Your acc is ok , looks nothing wrong on our side.

Also i sent screenshots , video records too but never got a reply.
I have to say this too ; your payments are superfast without any problem but this delay&limit makes all meanless . Hope i can get a reply about this unknown problem ..

as I see you are the same person who was complaining about mbet as well , and since both of sportsbet and mbet use the same odds provider for racing then I'm sure it's a problem with the provider
not sure if it's temporary or not , but back in my days all bets used to get accepted fast no matter what the sizing was

would love to see sportsbet getting another odds provider TBH cause the current one is really bad
especially after the partnership with Watford since the majority of UK gamblers do bet horses and greyhounds so probably they will check the racing section instantly after creating an account with sportsbet

Yes bro . I hadnt seen the sportsbet page so i wrote there. I think same with you , it may be about odds provider latrobet. I faced problems on greyhounds markets generally. Maybe sportsbet.io give some advice about it.

Im totally agree with you about your 2nd part of post. Hope they get much better after partnership with Watford because tons of Uk gamblers use horse&greyhounds markets for betting.

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Back to my betting schedule again.

We have two games today in PBA commissioner's cup,

First game I like the underdog which is the NLEX with 3.79 odds and in the 2nd game, I like the Barangay Ginebra as they are the best team in the PBA right now IMO. This conference we have imports so games are pretty unpredictable, underdog have some value also as it could also win.
The previous two games, IIRC all dogs won the game.

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Quote from: tebo on June 27, 2019, 11:42:06 AM

Hello sportsbet.io ;

Can i ask that why dont you let your clients to bet on Racing markets ? All my bets need around 1-1.5 minute for match. And sometimes my bets get match with funny amounts like 1mbtc. ( Im not a big player , my max bet is 100€ ) I contacted live help tons of times and they say ' Your acc is ok , looks nothing wrong on our side.

Also i sent screenshots , video records too but never got a reply.
I have to say this too ; your payments are superfast without any problem but this delay&limit makes all meanless . Hope i can get a reply about this unknown problem ..

as I see you are the same person who was complaining about mbet as well , and since both of sportsbet and mbet use the same odds provider for racing then I'm sure it's a problem with the provider
not sure if it's temporary or not , but back in my days all bets used to get accepted fast no matter what the sizing was

would love to see sportsbet getting another odds provider TBH cause the current one is really bad
especially after the partnership with Watford since the majority of UK gamblers do bet horses and greyhounds so probably they will check the racing section instantly after creating an account with sportsbet

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