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Yeah, Trofo and Harko, England just let everyone down so badly. The international version of Sevilla/Valencia I guess, if you want to draw comparisons.

Harko I put BTTS because I believed England would score but I often go for BTTS in BSFL for the very reason you gave: knowing my opponent is likely to choose BTTS. Very similar thinking we have in BSFL I've been discovering..!


I think it's always going to be difficult to put down something that's fair for both the person failing to submit, their opponent, and then the rest of the league. I can certainly feel the "pain" of those who never "enjoyed" free points.

'm willing to accept whatever happens, it doesn't really concern me and I'd never feel that any decision is unfair -- everything balances out for everyone in the long run.

I do like a concept that only penalises the offender, and not benefits the other. I agree with cryptofrka, a walkover happens extremely rarely in actual football so that 3-0 reflects that rarity. But BSFL need a way to figure out how to settle the game so I'm okay with this 3-0 rule. Not adverse to a change if someone figures something better.

Slaman29's suggestion isn't too bad actually. It only penalises the offender, and still ensures both teams play a normal game in the following round, no "bonus", just a point penalty + the fee rule penalty. Might I suggest that in the following round, the offender also has to give a handicap? Say, if it ends in a draw, the offender loses. Call it the away goal rule. Complicated though, unless we hope it happens less and less.

Great week for me as I'll be scoring my 2nd consecutive 3 points 
Really expecting to finish Top 2 this season; anything else would be unacceptable

I just noticed that I made a mistake on question #7, I thought it would be total of goal scored but instead it was total of goal France will score hence I answered that with 3+ goals lol. I should have read it carefully

Anyway, well done mate @Saint-Loup  . I didnt know that I was already down by 1 point on question #7 and I thought everything would be settled on question #9 but yeah even then I would have lost as well. Hamilton and Alonso was a bad choice after all

Maybe I'm not the right person to comment about it because I don't take this competition that seroiusly. To me it's more about fun and comment about the results than about winning. Of course, a reward in the end of a season can make people put in more effort but I'm not one of them. If I lose a round, I lose it. If someone else gets unfair advantage because his opponent didn't submit on time, while I lost from that same opponent, then it's tough luck for me.

And just one more thing. I have never got free point due to my opponent not submitting on time.

I’m actually complaining about it, I’ve done so a couple times ad nauseam, if you look at the first two rounds in the division one, only two games have ended with 3+ goal difference, a 3 goals difference is hard to come by in the division, so if someone gets above the average goal difference, it put them at an advantage in the long run, and the league matches isn’t really much so the +3 goals difference a couple of times can be extremely significant at the end of the season where you’d expect a couple of people to be tied on points, but as I’ve said before the beginning of the season, that if the 3:0 default score line should stand, then H2H should be the first metric for a tiebreaker, at least that’d take away a potential 3:0 or more advantage that one player might have received over the course of the league, I wouldn’t like to see someone not get enough consideration and all necessary points for submitting their picks on time while their opponent failed to do so, it’s not their fault, but then the entire league shouldn’t be the ones paying the price either.

I think that 3-0 defeat for the team that didn't submit their answers is a good rule. It's the same when in football a game is canceled for some reason - it's marked as a 3-0 win for the other team. If the game was played, maybe the winning team would have won with a greater goal difference, but that's the rule and no one is complaining about it.

Never gonna happen. We need firm rules that aren't open to interpretations.

Problem with late submission is that we don't know when that submission will come. It can be late 5 minutes, late a day or not come at all. To cover all possibilities with rules is quite impossible. And then you also have a situation where something changes between deadline and submission.

For instance we have tennis question regarding Djoković, he does not play in that time frame between deadline and submission but there are news popping up about his injury. First of all we could miss those news and then even if we are aware of it how to grade it? Event hasn't started but person submitting late had an advantage which we don't know if he used or not.

Double rounds are not fair to person that submitted on time. What if he had 8/10 correct in initial round and 1/10 in repeated round?

I don't see any way we can tweak this except change 3:0 to some some other number but I will argue even here that 3:0 sounds the best to me.

True, true, I was not really serious about asking of course, just that thinking of scenarios if DRAWS happen at end of season and you lose on goal difference just because your opponent didn't show up on time (but you would have won if he made it earlier).

I don't think it will ever happen for sure, but it's a possible scenario


Agree, but I'm just thinking of scenario, where the late guy submitted, and if he was on time, the score would be more than 3 GD, and it makes a difference in season end. It's not important, but if it happens, it would be very unfair for the guy who couldn't control his opponent being late.

OR, what if, final game of season, and points are same for 1st and 2nd and 3rd, so GD is important. Or one guy needs 4+ goal difference to beat relegation, but opponent decides, he will f that guy up and give walkover for only 3 GD or less in future.

So in totality I agree, 3-0 is too big difference, but maybe, maybe, one option is for late submitter to be penalty 1 point, but make their next round a double round. So like they will take their normal round opponent but also the previous round opponent, like double game week.

They don't have to do extra, just both guys face each other again next round, if the missing guy AGAIN did not submit, THEN 3-0 win is awarded.

I know I'm making a lot of noise it's actually not important just enjoying my free week

Oh, I didn't know that the F1 was already finished. It's Sunday morning where I live and I expected that the race will be on later today. I forgot that F1 is in Australia which is in an earlier timezone than Europe. Well... All I can say that I hope my team manage to get a draw. Three losses in a row would really killing the morale of the team, but even if that happens, we will come out strong and manage to secure our spot in division 1 in the end.

Firstly, I didn't say I lost a point to you on that question and I'm just stating how I feel whenever I've had to lose a point to an opponent when they chose BTTS, and I went the other way simply because of my personal sentiment of not liking to go with BTTS in any question, and yeah right I got the France absolutely spot on, just like I had anticipated and told you before hand 

Secondly, there is going to be only one question difference left between us, because the Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix have just been concluded a some minutes ago, and it's going to end as draw for us, George Russell couldn't finish the race as he crashed in the last rap, while Oscar Piastri finished 4th, but Lance Stroll finished in 7th position ahead of Hulkenberg in 9th place, which bring us even, All we've got left is the March Madness fixtures.

Lastly, I told you I'll only help you compound your teams' misery after you trash talked my team during your last press conference, talking about victimizing my team, a threat which they didn't take likely at all and decided to bring the whole energy to the stadium, now all we ask is that your acknowledgement should be louder than your disrespect mate  

What are you talking about losing a point to me? You have just won the first point because France couldn't score against Germany. Now you are up 3-2 with only two different answers left.

I'm not sure what is happening to my team. Whatever I do and however I choose my answers, I just can't win a round.

I should have followed my freaking guts on the Brazil vs England game, I was also sure of Brazil not losing while I also believed that England new experimental squad could find it hard to score, I had Brazil not to lose and BTTS No initially as I don’t like BTTS option but I change it at the I wanted to submit simply because I felt my opponent would also go with BTTS, while I don’t like taking BTTS, what I hate more is when I lose a point to an opponent because of it.

Division 3 historic results are skewed quite a bit as there were tons of 3-0 because so many players got disqualified. If anyone wants to have a look and calculate the average, I think the spreads resulting in 3-0 from disqualification should be excluded. But anyway, 3-0 is more than fair I guess although toning it down means less of a penalty to the one not submitting. There are two sides to the coin. But that has been taken care of due to the reward penalties at the end of the season. Hence, a 2-0 might make sense in the future.

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@cls63 the innocuous Equipe Tricolore sealed the deal for me. I was still a bit nervous and I thought the early German goal play more into your hands as I suspected the French team to go even harder. But the Germans did quite well on this one.

Well man we are still in a tie. Two questions go and with no good choose made by us. I have to say i like more your answers than mines after the qualy for F1 and in the other one as i said above i dont know anything about that basketball question. I only know something from NBa but not for minor leagues or university ones.


I went to a England victory for two things.

Brazil was in they worst performance ever and changing coach without any succes and put in the place guys who are from the local league top teams.

And the second and most relevant was, i was expecting to see the same as always in England side, they winning creating a ton of hype and went they reach Eurocup not ending winning the cup.

Same here, I was sure England was not winning this one but I also thought they will be able to score a goal against Brazil. Their defense is a new one and it was really surprising to see them keep a clean sheet.

Croatia winning on penalties, nothing new here Not important for BSFL but it was the game I watched.

Brazil won, but I needed England to score. Still a good result for me, as bloody France are toothless with only 20 minutes to play, so looks like I'll lose that one, to bring the round to 3-2 with only NCAA and F1 to go and judging by leea's answer of "3nd Ferrari driver", I should win that one right? Heh heh


Too lazy to look at past history but I think 1-goal difference rounds feel like the most common result. 3-2 also feels like the most common result or median for me, but I wonder what the stats look like across the leagues. Have a feeling it's been quite big in Div3s, but am only relying on imagined memory.

It's too big a freebie, agree. Should be 1-0, to reflect how relatively often it happens (once to me already in 4 seasons, something to remind CLS63 forever about).

Olimpia won 10th place in the end, but I sadly didnt read BSFL question correctly because I would pick answer EA7 Milano or Anadolu Efes 

Many surprise results today, Brazil won against England and Germany is winning 2:0 against France.
I am hoping Ecuador will get a good result against Italy, even a draw would work for me and this could be very important for me in this round.

Yep, its college basketball and its really simple: 68 best teams play in a single elimination tournament until we get the champion. Can't be more straightfoward than that.

Bad day for me today. England lost (I should have known better not to trust their national team) while France losing vs Germany at the halftime.

Question 6 doesn't look good for me already as I try to pickup the scraps and force a draw or win , really thought England would bring the house down on Brazil but what am seeing... typical England performance when you expect them to win..they do the opposite and the Brazilians stand a better chance of winning this game if am to be honest especially  that I like today's team...otherwise do your waste team England as I see a boredraw here thanks to the non competitive encounter with nothing to play for but braging rights!!!

That was definitely a lucky result for me, no doubt about that. If you you look at the whole game, the result wasn't undeserved, but once the game goes into extra time, that sort of goal is certainly a big bummer for you. It was deflected and then perfectly hit the ball of a Jamaican player and then ended up in the back of the net. It's lucky for me that there was a goal at all, and even luckier considering how that goal was scored.

This time I was the lucky one, but let's see how the game France - Germany will go. You got a decent chance there although I prefer to pick ranges in such questions rather than one fixed number. But 2 goals doesn't sound unrealistic.