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I checked livescore(.)cz, livescore(.)com, and flashscores(.)mobi (the popular score sites) and their stats all tally with the UEFA stats except for sofascores, which has completely different stats from all the games yesterday, and the stats for the Portugal-Liechtenstein match are the same on all the popular score sites except Sofascores, which has completely different numbers. Sofascore is untrustworthy; they tamper with every game.
Those are not reputable sites those are all data scrapers that are getting their info probably from UEFA page. Sofascore isn't any better, they are just using different source. There are some other pages which I trust more, they are all giving possession advantage to Italy but I am also not sure about their source. UEFA site is wrong about this game, I am 100% sure about passing stat at least. Possession seems wrong as well but I am not 100% sure about that. Will do more research tomorrow.

Doesn't matter in the end, it is our problem and we will grade it to the best of our abilities. If we get confirmation about stats from reputable bookies I will consider that as correct answer. If we don't get it we will do the best we can.

I noticed that the England-Italy game is marked out on the spreadsheet; not following the UEFA official stats for all games will only create doubts; at the very least, if you believe the UEFA is incompetent/made mistake, you should provide data from other sources., I've scroll through about 10 famous score sites and its all the same but there is nothing wrong with digging deep into the shaky water. Good luck. Cool

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Anyway to avoid any 'confusion' like this in the future, probably we should settle on using specific website for the statistics of the questions? Probably settle on two trustworthy site like flashscore and livescore

We settled for the Uefa's one - which should be the most trustworthy.
We're now checking if they potentially made some mistakes.

Its all good Cryptofrka we will meet again congrats on the win

I got off the hook yeah, I expected both games to be low scoring ones.

Malta saved me, though, thanks minnows.

Nope, they did not. Re-read the question, you need them to score on Sunday Grin

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Regarding the Italy - England game, we'll probably rewatch it. Will let you know tomorrow.
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I checked livescore(.)cz, livescore(.)com, and flashscores(.)mobi (the popular score sites) and their stats all tally with the UEFA stats except for sofascores, which has completely different stats from all the games yesterday, and the stats for the Portugal-Liechtenstein match are the same on all the popular score sites except Sofascores, which has completely different numbers. Sofascore is untrustworthy; they tamper with every game.
Those are not reputable sites those are all data scrapers that are getting their info probably from UEFA page. Sofascore isn't any better, they are just using different source. There are some other pages which I trust more, they are all giving possession advantage to Italy but I am also not sure about their source. UEFA site is wrong about this game, I am 100% sure about passing stat at least. Possession seems wrong as well but I am not 100% sure about that. Will do more research tomorrow.

Doesn't matter in the end, it is our problem and we will grade it to the best of our abilities. If we get confirmation about stats from reputable bookies I will consider that as correct answer. If we don't get it we will do the best we can.



And I am well used to your style of writing, reading all your posts every week so it would be quite something if you manage to surprise me  Grin
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What do you think of the game between France and Holland?

I really don't know man!

France are already 3 goals up, and it's barely 20 minutes, So, I think France are going to get really comfortable now, and it could lead to a
Netherland's goal, but if they are going to school they should better make sure they score more than one goal  Cheesy

It's total shambles from the Netherlands, they lack every thing especially any form of organization.

the netherland line up is so average, there was no way they were going to get anything from this game, the virus outbreak in their camp screwed me up since most of their first team players were sent home, I didnt see this coming, kudos on that point. We are now focus on the Sunday game to see how things turn out. It's been a fun ride thus far.

Kelvin poor form with the Belgium national team continues ,3 goals with zero contributions says alot.

Anyway to avoid any 'confusion' like this in the future, probably we should settle on using specific website for the statistics of the questions? Probably settle on two trustworthy site like flashscore and livescore

sofascores got all the stats for tonight games all wrong again.


Thanks to Memphis Depay for bailing me out, Netherlands barely had any attacking threat all night long until the unfortunate inadvertent handball from Dayot Upamencano gave them the chance at a consolation goal, but they couldn't utilize it, and the ball fell kindly Depay yet again and another brilliant save from the keeper to keep it out.
Didn't bother watching the game after i saw the line up
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I really didn't even remember answering that question, but seeing I picked No, I was sure I did.

Thanks to Memphis Depay for bailing me out, Netherlands barely had any attacking threat all night long until the unfortunate inadvertent handball from Dayot Upamencano gave them the chance at a consolation goal, but they couldn't utilize it, and the ball fell kindly Depay yet again and another brilliant save from the keeper to keep it out.
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Hat trick to boot  Grin

Its all good Cryptofrka we will meet again congrats on the win
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What do you think of the game between France and Holland?

I really don't know man!

France are already 3 goals up, and it's barely 20 minutes, So, I think France are going to get really comfortable now, and it could lead to a
Netherland's goal, but if they are going to school they should better make sure they score more than one goal  Cheesy

It's total shambles from the Netherlands, they lack every thing especially any form of organization.
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Sofascore is untrustworthy; they tamper with every game.

Never knew about this. I guess I'll avoid them from now on



Anyway to avoid any 'confusion' like this in the future, probably we should settle on using specific website for the statistics of the questions? Probably settle on two trustworthy site like flashscore and livescore



@Slissy : -1 for me so far and I guess today's questions dont matter at all because we had the same answers for both. iirc we voided the Norway question wasnt it so I need to get the last two questions correctly or else Im going to settle with another loss or draw again  Roll Eyes
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Well i have again to come with this, i think we need to void the possesion question, the UEFA web sadly colleted porrly the statistic for possesion, i dont know why that happen but its clearly demostrable (more if you see the game). I know this its not pleasant but anyone has to say this.

Look at this.


Give up man, sorry don't try to be smart  Grin Even if it's a bug, there's no way to validate it; if UEFA says it's 49-51 ball possession, then that's what it is. As this is a UEFA competition question, whatever numbers they provided will be used by the bookmakers rather than some random sofacores site. passes attempted and passes completed are two different stats, Sofa score added both i guess.

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Now that I've looked at the spreadsheet, I can see why you want that question to be nullified. Grin


First to all i dont know why you attack me personally, and also you can see i see the other question was not clear and i come and i say that and that not benefit me, i only try to pursuit the true.
So what are you gonna say?. Even if im defending myself what have this wrong?.

Sorry Mate I did not make a personal attack on you, man; I simply voiced my opinion because it affects me as well. If you have any concerns, you have every right to voice them and back them up with your sources.

I checked livescore(.)cz, livescore(.)com, and flashscores(.)mobi (the popular score sites) and their stats all tally with the UEFA stats except for sofascores, which has completely different stats from all the games yesterday, and the stats for the Portugal-Liechtenstein match are the same on all the popular score sites except Sofascores, which has completely different numbers. Sofascore is untrustworthy; they tamper with every game.


Furthermore, you cannot calculate possession simply by watching the game; there are criteria. I watched part of the first half and the English were in complete control of the game; the Italians only began eating back possession in the last 20 minutes when Shaw was sent off. England sat back for the last 20mins of the game.


Are we going to go with the outcome based on what Sofascore says if other official websites state YES and Sofascore states NO? is there no enough proof from all other games yesterday that sofascore got all wrong?


Oh and darxiaomi yes Igebotz is a silly boi, but it's okay, you can sling insults at him too, he likes the attention.

hahahah, come on i did shit! there was no need for him to be emotional, i didn't wake the dragon this time did I? and  trofo don't tell me you fell for it too. Grin


Lol. yes the goal gave me a life line but then if England hadn't been so dominant in the first and lost the dominance and being one man down, it would have been an entirely different story, it was you who got lucky with that question because we both could have missed it as well, the truth is I still have significant level of confidence, I danced to your tune, and some questions I answered was because of what I knew you'd settle for too, so for each I question I'm convinced about my answer I try to go for the easiest I think you'd likely go for too, but then the England question isn't one of them, I knew the clause attached to England dominating, If the score had remain goalless at halftime, or it was Italy with the lead, England would definitely have dominated both possession and the passes significantly.

The instant James and Galla were introduced, I knew England would stop caring about possession. However, Italy only managed to make 1 shot throughout the entire game, which was bad play on their part. What do you think of the game between France and Holland?
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just dropping this here, the neither option won!!!! as none of the team made up to 55% possession  Grin https://www.uefa.com/european-qualifiers/match/2036294--italy-vs-england/statistics/


fuck........Rasmus Hojlnud 90+3 goal for Denmark ruined my third point for the day. Fortunately for you, Harkorede, that goal gave you a lifeline. You won't be so lucky tomorrow. I just need Neitherland to do the dirty work for me , This is getting exciting, and I'm just disappointed that I didn't back our women's team to defeat Lyon yesterday. Lyon, Barcelona, and Bayern women have been our problems in the champions league for the past three seasons. I've let my team down twice, and we're Chelsea, for god's sake!

Lol. yes the goal gave me a life line but then if England hadn't been so dominant in the first and lost the dominance and being one man down, it would have been an entirely different story, it was you who got lucky with that question because we both could have missed it as well, the truth is I still have significant level of confidence, I danced to your tune, and some questions I answered was because of what I knew you'd settle for too, so for each I question I'm convinced about my answer I try to go for the easiest I think you'd likely go for too, but then the England question isn't one of them, I knew the clause attached to England dominating, If the score had remain goalless at halftime, or it was Italy with the lead, England would definitely have dominated both possession and the passes significantly.
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Re Italy England, I lost that point, but should have won it if not for Maguire curses on him and on CLS63 haha.

Malta saved me, though, thanks minnows.

I was watching most parts of the game in patches and following possession on Livescore -- England was as high as 63% at one stage and it felt fair as they took control offensively, but the second half was Italy's and then after the sending off, it all got eaten away as Italy grew into the game.

I would say it's fair, and we use official results, regardless of what the mind thinks.

But good to check, and make Cro2 work.

Oh and darxiaomi yes Igebotz is a silly boi, but it's okay, you can sling insults at him too, he likes the attention.
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Well i have again to come with this, i think we need to void the possesion question, the UEFA web sadly colleted porrly the statistic for possesion, i dont know why that happen but its clearly demostrable (more if you see the game). I know this its not pleasant but anyone has to say this.

Look at this.


Give up man, sorry don't try to be smart  Grin Even if it's a bug, there's no way to validate it; if UEFA says it's 49-51 ball possession, then that's what it is. As this is a UEFA competition question, whatever numbers they provided will be used by the bookmakers rather than some random sofacores site. passes attempted and passes completed are two different stats, Sofa score added both i guess.

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Now that I've looked at the spreadsheet, I can see why you want that question to be nullified. Grin


First to all i dont know why you attack me personally, and also you can see i see the other question was not clear and i come and i say that and that not benefit me, i only try to pursuit the true.
So what are you gonna say?. Even if im defending myself what have this wrong?.

About pass think i know that, but that show the UEFA page took only the stats for one half. I dont know what more can i do to prove the flawed are the stats for UEFA and it was a bug because the other stats are good, but possesion and passes are not good.

You can check , well everybody can check the normal ammount of passes in a game are 500 for england and italy.

In the second half also Italy have 70% of the possesion. And plus i dont know what game you see, first half was 50 50 the second half England didnt shoot and never cross the midfield.
Don't be bothered by Igebotz, he has a rough way of making his points sometimes.

I will grant you that these screenshots you posted look suspicious and we will investigate the situation further. We will wait for that cryptofrka's friend to hear his opinion or try some other avenues to see what the bookies entered as correct numbers. There is no need to void the question, there is a recording of the game available for sure, if it comes to that I will watch it again and judge the question by myself. I did not watch the game but I was looking at the stats often and I had a feeling England had better possession in first half while Italy had better in second half.

We are using official sources but of course common sense must prevail, if above screen shot is true than UEFA has it wrong obviously and we will check other sources.
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Well i have again to come with this, i think we need to void the possesion question, the UEFA web sadly colleted porrly the statistic for possesion, i dont know why that happen but its clearly demostrable (more if you see the game). I know this its not pleasant but anyone has to say this.

Look at this.


Give up man, sorry don't try to be smart  Grin Even if it's a bug, there's no way to validate it; if UEFA says it's 49-51 ball possession, then that's what it is. As this is a UEFA competition question, whatever numbers they provided will be used by the bookmakers rather than some random sofacores site. passes attempted and passes completed are two different stats, Sofa score added both i guess.

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Now that I've looked at the spreadsheet, I can see why you want that question to be nullified. Grin


First to all i dont know why you attack me personally, and also you can see i see the other question was not clear and i come and i say that and that not benefit me, i only try to pursuit the true.
So what are you gonna say?. Even if im defending myself what have this wrong?.

About pass think i know that, but that show the UEFA page took only the stats for one half. I dont know what more can i do to prove the flawed are the stats for UEFA and it was a bug because the other stats are good, but possesion and passes are not good.

You can check , well everybody can check the normal ammount of passes in a game are 500 for england and italy.

In the second half also Italy have 70% of the possesion. And plus i dont know what game you see, first half was 50 50 the second half England didnt shoot and never cross the midfield.
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We checked also Livescore and Flashscore, only Sofascore has a different number.
I sent a question to my friend that does statistics for bet365 and I'll write here when he replies back.

I watched the game partially and am more inclined to believe that it was 50-50 than Italy dominating - but we'll make all the needed checks.

Just a note - number of passes is irrelevant for possession stats. If a player holds up the ball (slow building through defence) it goes into possession but not into passes, so a team can actually have more possession with less passes.
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Well i have again to come with this, i think we need to void the possesion question, the UEFA web sadly colleted porrly the statistic for possesion, i dont know why that happen but its clearly demostrable (more if you see the game). I know this its not pleasant but anyone has to say this.

Look at this.


Give up man, sorry don't try to be smart  Grin Even if it's a bug, there's no way to validate it; if UEFA says it's 49-51 ball possession, then that's what it is. As this is a UEFA competition question, whatever numbers they provided will be used by the bookmakers rather than some random sofacores site. passes attempted and passes completed are two different stats, Sofa score added both i guess.

edit

Now that I've looked at the spreadsheet, I can see why you want that question to be nullified. Grin
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Well i have again to come with this, i think we need to void the possesion question, the UEFA web sadly colleted porrly the statistic for possesion, i dont know why that happen but its clearly demostrable (more if you see the game). I know this its not pleasant but anyone has to say this.

Look at this.




Look at sofascore.



And more important look at the ammoun of pass, and you can find why its bugged the UEFA stats, they collect only the first half one. And you can check this in whatever page you like, really disapointed by a page like UEFA (official one) to have this error.

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And i repeat i said this because its not a 1/2% percent difference between pages, this its a clear error and its clearly demostrable by the ammount of passes. And also if you see the game more.

Please check in other pages and you will see.
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The official stats from EURO page is the valid one. England could have won the possession game but the 80th mins red card to Shaw changed the game for England.
I hope this wont be my single mistake to make me lose this round of BSFL competition Sad
There are five more matches from question number 6 to 10, and I am still hoping to strike a deadly blow and first defeat of Division 1 top two positions.

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What did you expect when facing one of the luckiest bastards in the competition? Grin I know that I'll probably regret saying this but I just can't help myself Smiley I'm leading 3-2 with 3 answers remaining that we answered differently. So there is still chance for you to beat me.
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The official stats from EURO page is the valid one. England could have won the possession game but the 80th mins red card to Shaw changed the game for England.
I hope this wont be my single mistake to make me lose this round of BSFL competition Sad
There are five more matches from question number 6 to 10, and I am still hoping to strike a deadly blow and first defeat of Division 1 top two positions.

News for Dutch national team, there is virus outbreak and many players could miss important match against France tonight.
Odds are dropping on France and I think they can use this situation to win, this is maybe best bet of the day for me. 

oh no! Just as I was hoping that they would at least score a goal against France to seal the round for me, there is a rumor circulating that the Chicken curry served in camp on Wednesday is the source of the viral virus outbreak. The international break is always filled with bad news and injury concerns. That was unprofessional behavior on the part of the chef, and he should be warned. All that matters is that the players are safe

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Cro2 team please the round is almost over, is the full fixtures for the season ready?
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What happened with idea of introducing logos for each player in BSFL?

I'd personally love to see it. However, it will depend on the participants consensus.
So far only a few logos have been created, and in formats that cannot be implemented.

joker_josue did mention how they need to look:

In order to look good in the table, the images will have to be in good quality with a height of 15px.
Therefore, when developing a logo, you have to check if it is perceptible in that dimension.

I'd add that they have to be in PNG format and in rectangular shape (meaning 15x15 px).
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The official stats from EURO page is the valid one. England could have won the possession game but the 80th mins red card to Shaw changed the game for England.
I hope this wont be my single mistake to make me lose this round of BSFL competition Sad
There are five more matches from question number 6 to 10, and I am still hoping to strike a deadly blow and first defeat of Division 1 top two positions.

News for Dutch national team, there is virus outbreak and many players could miss important match against France tonight.
Odds are dropping on France and I think they can use this situation to win, this is maybe best bet of the day for me.

Therefore, regretfully, the Board has decided to reject your complaint Grin
What happened with idea of introducing logos for each player in BSFL?
  
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