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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 28, 2023, 01:13:21 AM

Good job @OP for being kind with the others, but there's a thing I think you must do for the next time, it's about permissions.

You're saying you give your Bitcoin to a mosque and it's used to break fast with the other peoples, but you're forget to let them know if the original source of the money is come from Bitcoin. Bitcoin is haram for Muslims even though you're use it for good, I pretty aware there's a discussion if Bitcoin could be halal, depends on your perspective. But most people still think Bitcoin is haram and they will refuse any money or gift if it's related with Bitcoin.

I think such ideology needs to adjust and adherents have to grow up intellectually to understand that it's all currency and just a difference in the name and advancement. It may shock you to discover that most of the high religious leaders we adhere to secretively have accounts and deal businesses in bitcoin worth millions.

Meanwhile this is not fashioned to condemning or critiquing anyone's religious belief but just to throw light on certain reality we experience currently in our different societies.

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If you want a discussion about halal and haram Bitcoin, it's better not to be in this thread because we are not here to discuss this.

Incidentally this is the moment of Ramadan Kareem, maybe tomorrow or next month there will be another moment that is more valuable, anyone who wants to share Bitcoin results in any form is welcome. Bitcoin for all no matter where we come from. What belief do we have. What color is our skin.

If there is an intention to spread love in any form and in any way, as long as it is useful, we really want it.
Here's the point.

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It's always nice seeing live being spread love without having to consider religion, skin color and nationality. I'm not really concerned if the donation was done with Bitcoin or fiat as long as the donation got to those in need of it and was used appropriately then we all should be greatful.

Quote from: Fatunad on March 30, 2023, 05:35:35 PM

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Just did remember up something that in Islam which Bitcoin is Haram? Is it true?
Is Bitcoin Halal? A Guide To Cryptocurrency For Muslims

Its stated that it is haram.

Wow... I'm just getting to know this now. I thought Bitcoin was accepted by the Muslims because I've seen some that are involved in it.
Another question, what about those altcoins that are based on Muslim religion? For example I saw a token that's called BIOKRIPT and it's a shariah law based token, will those type of token be accepted by Muslims because of what it's based on?

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Quote from: Pezroly on March 28, 2023, 05:43:36 PM

If you want to spread the love with Bitcoins, you can send me some.

D..d..damn you are 2 days faster than me! Please OP spread the love to me too

Third on the list... It won't be bad if I receive some love from Op because recently if feel like my fiance has been showing me lesser love.

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No matter what your religion is, it's always nice to see people caring each other. Technically this is just a fiat donation indeed, but still, if there is no bitcoin, perhaps yudi09 wouldn't had opportunity to share his wealth. Great job mate.

Btw let's focus to this kind gesture itself in this thread rather than discussing if bitcoin is legalized or not by some religion. Iirc that topic has been discussed several times in Politic & Society section.

Quote from: Pezroly on March 28, 2023, 05:43:36 PM

If you want to spread the love with Bitcoins, you can send me some.

D..d..damn you are 2 days faster than me! Please OP spread the love to me too

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It's always good to turn around and redistribute a part of your wealth! Nice of you OP !
Especially if we know that this redistributed part will benefit people who are really in need, directly or indirectly.

OP, I am not Muslim and know almost nothing about Islam. I live in a country where I almost don't have the opportunity to meet any.
May I ask you about the relationship between Islam and Bitcoin?
I have heard several times that Bitcoin (and crypto-currencies in general) are frowned upon by Muslims. I didn't really understand why, but a man once explained to me that since Bitcoin is not stable, there is a good chance that people will hold it for future profit, and that this was not in accordance with Islamic texts. If I understood correctly, he was telling me that as a Muslim one should not make profit without exchanging goods or services? Is speculation not a good thing regarding the texts ?

This has always seemed wrong to me because there is the stock market and cryptos very established in many Islamic countries.
Do you have any idea why he was telling me this?

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Quote from: deathcode on March 30, 2023, 06:16:32 PM

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Quote from: Merit.s on March 29, 2023, 08:26:12 AM

OP, I love your inspiration on this by showing love to Muslims during this season of Ramadan. I feel happy when I see people doing charity work in other to spread bitcoin awareness to people,this shows that bitcoin is a life safer.

No. That seems to do for one group. Incidentally, my invitation coincides with the moment of Ramadan which is being carried out by Muslims, but more than that I mean to invite all to be willing to do something that can provide a more harmonious atmosphere in this world.

If many large crypto communities or companies are willing to make donations to those who receive disasters and those who experience disasters do not come from one religion, not from one skin color, we can also do it personally with our own concepts. Everything goes to the same goal and I carry the theme with Bitcoin we spread love.

Quote from: Merit.s on March 29, 2023, 08:26:12 AM

I hope that you told them something about bitcoin for them to know the source of the gifts.

By itself we will explain clearly later when they realize behind what we are doing.
Convincing many people is a difficult job, it takes the right moment so that they are curious and ask themselves where the source is. If we convey it directly, it is likely that it will be cut off until then. But if we form love we always do at every moment, then I'm sure people will be curious about who we are, where the source is so that the message we want to convey about the positivity of bitcoin will enter their minds faster.

Previously I wished you a happy Ramadan fasting OP, I really appreciate what you are doing to help the community around you by using the proceeds from the sale of Bitcoin that you have.
Yes, I know the condition you are experiencing, you only intend to do good and not openly show that it is the result of your Bitcoin investment, because not everyone has a positive assessment of Bitcoin.
I assume you don't want to publicly show that it's all from Bitcoin because you don't want to be bothered to debate or argue with someone who is still closed to Bitcoin or those who have negative views about Bitcoin.
Because you think it's better to show the goodness that we spread first, then when there are some people who are finally curious about how and where you earn, you won't refuse and will introduce and teach them about Bitcoin.
I'm more inclined to call the approach you want to do this is the "persuasive approach" to introduce Bitcoin. An approach method that is used to persuade other people in a good way and without coercion to agree with you, in this case agree with Bitcoin.

a persuasive approach is a soft way to introduce bitcoin this month of Ramadan, with a touch of love and concern for others to get to know bitcoin without much debate and make people curious about bitcoin itself. and of course by sharing the right knowledge about bitcoin we can provide education to the people we care about, so they will also provide the right knowledge to those closest to them, and this will be a continuous sequence like a chain

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Quote from: yudi09 on March 30, 2023, 05:16:07 PM

Quote from: Merit.s on March 29, 2023, 08:26:12 AM

OP, I love your inspiration on this by showing love to Muslims during this season of Ramadan. I feel happy when I see people doing charity work in other to spread bitcoin awareness to people,this shows that bitcoin is a life safer.

No. That seems to do for one group. Incidentally, my invitation coincides with the moment of Ramadan which is being carried out by Muslims, but more than that I mean to invite all to be willing to do something that can provide a more harmonious atmosphere in this world.

If many large crypto communities or companies are willing to make donations to those who receive disasters and those who experience disasters do not come from one religion, not from one skin color, we can also do it personally with our own concepts. Everything goes to the same goal and I carry the theme with Bitcoin we spread love.

Quote from: Merit.s on March 29, 2023, 08:26:12 AM

I hope that you told them something about bitcoin for them to know the source of the gifts.

By itself we will explain clearly later when they realize behind what we are doing.
Convincing many people is a difficult job, it takes the right moment so that they are curious and ask themselves where the source is. If we convey it directly, it is likely that it will be cut off until then. But if we form love we always do at every moment, then I'm sure people will be curious about who we are, where the source is so that the message we want to convey about the positivity of bitcoin will enter their minds faster.

Previously I wished you a happy Ramadan fasting OP, I really appreciate what you are doing to help the community around you by using the proceeds from the sale of Bitcoin that you have.
Yes, I know the condition you are experiencing, you only intend to do good and not openly show that it is the result of your Bitcoin investment, because not everyone has a positive assessment of Bitcoin.
I assume you don't want to publicly show that it's all from Bitcoin because you don't want to be bothered to debate or argue with someone who is still closed to Bitcoin or those who have negative views about Bitcoin.
Because you think it's better to show the goodness that we spread first, then when there are some people who are finally curious about how and where you earn, you won't refuse and will introduce and teach them about Bitcoin.
I'm more inclined to call the approach you want to do this is the "persuasive approach" to introduce Bitcoin. An approach method that is used to persuade other people in a good way and without coercion to agree with you, in this case agree with Bitcoin.

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Ramadan kareem to you brother, and may Alah accept your charity work in this holy the time of ramadan giving arms to the needy is indeed the highest sacrifice in almighty ALAH eye which attract Alah blessings and mercy to answer your prayers in this holy month.
On a second note the title could have fit more better if you said the thing you achieve through your bitcoin investment, since bitcoin was not used or thought to those you gave arms to so bitcoin cant be the center of our discussion since you exchange the Bitcoin to fiat before you use the money to buy those gifts items.

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The main idea on here is not to make out conflicts and making out some bad comments and words about how a Religious group would be doing their stuffs according into their beliefs.
As you op did make a good job here at least on which it might be converted in fiat first but in overall it is really that a good step.

Just did remember up something that in Islam which Bitcoin is Haram? Is it true?
Is Bitcoin Halal? A Guide To Cryptocurrency For Muslims

Its stated that it is haram.

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Quote from: Merit.s on March 29, 2023, 08:26:12 AM

OP, I love your inspiration on this by showing love to Muslims during this season of Ramadan. I feel happy when I see people doing charity work in other to spread bitcoin awareness to people,this shows that bitcoin is a life safer.

No. That seems to do for one group. Incidentally, my invitation coincides with the moment of Ramadan which is being carried out by Muslims, but more than that I mean to invite all to be willing to do something that can provide a more harmonious atmosphere in this world.

If many large crypto communities or companies are willing to make donations to those who receive disasters and those who experience disasters do not come from one religion, not from one skin color, we can also do it personally with our own concepts. Everything goes to the same goal and I carry the theme with Bitcoin we spread love.

Quote from: Merit.s on March 29, 2023, 08:26:12 AM

I hope that you told them something about bitcoin for them to know the source of the gifts.

By itself we will explain clearly later when they realize behind what we are doing.
Convincing many people is a difficult job, it takes the right moment so that they are curious and ask themselves where the source is. If we convey it directly, it is likely that it will be cut off until then. But if we form love we always do at every moment, then I'm sure people will be curious about who we are, where the source is so that the message we want to convey about the positivity of bitcoin will enter their minds faster.

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OP, I love your inspiration on this by showing love to Muslims during this season of Ramadan. I feel happy when I see people doing charity work in other to spread bitcoin awareness to people,this shows that bitcoin is a life safer. I hope that you told them something about bitcoin for them to know the source of the gifts. You have a generous heart and I can bet you,that your good work will not be forgotten by these people. May your wallet never lack bitcoin and may Allah bless you abundantly for giving his children something to break their fasting with.
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Quote from: yudi09 on March 29, 2023, 03:11:25 AM

All of us have our own way of packaging a form of activity with the aim of spreading love.

I agree with you OP, everyone is a not a giver and not everyone believes in spreading love financially. What you do is totally commendable, but I feel that it should not be like the efforts of other forum users to spread love in form of knowledge is lesser than giving money. Many forum users always come up to show how they have started seminars and lectures to try to share the knowledge of bitcoins to people. That is their little contribution and I also see it as an act of love, and although giving money or food items to people from the profit you make from bitcoins is good, teaching them how to make their own from bitcoin is better. Knowledge sometimes beats financial gifts that are temporary.

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Anyway, I'm happy with all the responses. All of us have our own way of packaging a form of activity with the aim of spreading love. Each country, although I don't know the details, has a different culture and customs in carrying out each moment. This is just a coincidence with the moment of Ramadan (Muslim), maybe other moments (Christian, Buddhist, etc.) also have cultures and habits that may be different but it does not become an obstacle that makes us unable to be together in living a life full of an atmosphere of hospitality.

The form of sharing that I do is personal and some of my neighbors know that I am active in "crypto". I do not have the ability to convince many worshipers like a religious leader, but I believe that one person's good intention will be followed by one person and that one person will be followed by the next person.

Once again, thank you for everything. Let's spread love with kindness even in small ways.

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This donation made by OP is really a good motive since it's from his own profits in bitcoin. But when he said that he converted the Bitcoin to fiat money, there's no need for bitcoin to be mentioned above since they still received fiat money. However, if the OP mention those money were from bitcoin, maybe it might have been acknowledged.

You could just put a bitcoin logo with your name to be mentioned since some charities ask for your information as a thank you, but some people prefer to remain anonymous. However, I've seen that under the Muslim religion here in the forum bitcoin I found out that it is prohibited, which may have caused the OP to convert it to money. If it's not prohibited it is possible to use it in this manner. But, the fact that bitcoin can even benefit charities demonstrated how powerful bitcoin is. Happy Ramadan and keep spreading love OP!

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First of all I wish you a happy Ramadan and congratulations for the work you have done which is undoubtedly an admirable one. This initiative of yours is a different kind of initiative. By earning money through Bitcoin you are giving that money to poor and needy people. Many are spending days in misery due to lack of money in this month of Ramadan. Your help is very important to them. If everyone like you stood by the side of the poor and suffering people from their own capacity, then the suffering of those who are spending their days in misery due to lack of money would be removed at least a little. Let us all help the poor and needy people in this Ramadan from our own means.

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In this forum, users have used their Bitcoin to get items for the needy, for school kids in rural communities, for the provision of clean drinking water in hard to reach communities in west Africa and many more. I personally love seeing these good gestures. It warms my heart because I wish I could do it if only I had the time. This is a time of sober reflection for both Muslims and Roman Catholics alike because of the great spiritual exercise they are carrying out.

What to eat after breaking the fast is something that I feel worries most of them especially those without any means. But this highly commendable gesture from the OP will go a long way in strengthening their faith. Thank you for the gift of Bitcoin and the sacrifice.

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I'm a Christian but one thing I love about Muslims is the love they share and most times I wish I could be Muslim but I'm fine with Christianity.
I love your good work @Op and I love seeing people giving back to humanity no matter how little it could be because you never can tell how much impact the love your shared in form of gifts might do to the person.
I personally encourage you to keep up with this good works and I also have a charity foundation (not officially registered yet) but we also have alot of activities in our pocket list and we hope to achieve them, though it haven't been easy especially with fund raising since it's been funded by just me, we hope everything comes out successful.

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op you are a good person because you have given up a small portion of your bitcoin for the benefit of Muslims and this is a very extraordinary activity.

but in my opinion your op would be even better if you added food or drink packaging with a picture of bitcoin with the aim that people know and think what bitcoin is? and so that they know that what they eat is from the sale of bitcoins.

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Op I suggest you should moved this topic to off-topic or even to politics & Society because looking down to your post I don't see any inputs or effects given to bitcoin in other to fast track the max adoption of bitcoin and it widespread to the Muslim or even to the ramadan. Please I mean no offense sir/ma

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Quote from: yudi09 on March 28, 2023, 12:54:24 AM

This world is inhabited by many religious adherents who do not look at skin color. The beauty of the world when all believers from various backgrounds and from various skin colors respect and protect each other and share with each other will find love.

Currently Muslims are fulfilling an obligation to fast in Ramadan in ways that may vary from one country to another.
How happy it would be if all of us from all over the world who were involved in Bitcoin activity were willing to campaign or socialize a form of love at a moment like this.

Ramadan is a month of peace and a holy month in which Muslims all over the world try to give as much as they can. You took pleasure in doing so during this holy month, and you also used it to promote bitcoin among the people there. The small contributions we make to the development and adoption of bitcoin will undoubtedly pave the way for greater recognition and acceptance; you've done your best, and the community appreciates it.

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I think it would have been more better had you inscribe a written note on the envelope like this... "Donated from my profit made in Bitcoin"

I don’t think he will be able to do that because bitcoin is forbidden in Islam. Muslims are not allowed to invest in bitcoin and I don’t think the mosque would appreciate it if they found out the money came from bitcoin. As much as what OP intentions were pure and from his heart, there are people there who would be offended because it’s against their religious belief.

Different Muslim authorities hold opposing views on whether bitcoin is permissible in Islam. Everyone has their own opinion, but if they are used for other purposes such as usury, gambling, cheating, or other illegal practices, they are considered illegal. However, it is permissible for the storage of wealth and transaction processes, which was the primary goal of the invention of bitcoin.

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