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legendary
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Khazad ai-menu!
December 08, 2014, 06:53:27 PM
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Africa has to heal itself. The West can't help it. Nor should we. The record speaks for itself.
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Interesting stories, thanks for sharing.  I agree with the conclusion but not necessarily for the same reason.  Africa is a continent, bigger than all of Europe and all of China and all of USA (including Alaska) put together.  I know virtually nothing about it, but it looks to me like anything anybody says about the entire continent in generatlization is probably wrong for most of it.  Anyway we have all seen what the so-called "help" of the west can do.   
newbie
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Merit: 0
December 08, 2014, 04:33:50 PM
Can anyone have problems synchronising the wallet?
My wallet stops at 973 and tells me:
potatocoind getinfo
{
    "version" : 90100,
    "protocolversion" : 70012,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 973,
    "timeoffset" : -2,
    "connections" : 4,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 31.60347965,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1418073904,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "mininput" : 0.00001000,
    "errors" : "Warning: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."
Any solution?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
December 07, 2014, 05:39:42 PM
"Sowing the change that Africa needs".... rofl

an oldie but ROFL goodie (and sad)

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Let Africa Sink
Kim du Toit ^ | May 26, 2002 | Kim du Toit
Posted on 6/7/2003 5:58:41 AM by dennisw

Let Africa Sink

Kim du Toit May 26, 2002

When it comes to any analysis of the problems facing Africa, Western society, and particularly people from the United States, encounter a logical disconnect that makes clear analysis impossible. That disconnect is the way life is regarded in the West (it's precious, must be protected at all costs etc.), compared to the way life, and death, are regarded in Africa. Let me try to quantify this statement.

In Africa, life is cheap. There are so many ways to die in Africa that death is far more commonplace than in the West. You can die from so many things--snakebite, insect bite, wild animal attack, disease, starvation, food poisoning... the list goes on and on. At one time, crocodiles accounted for more deaths in sub-Saharan Africa than gunfire, for example. Now add the usual human tragedy (murder, assault, warfare and the rest), and you can begin to understand why the life expectancy for an African is low--in fact, horrifyingly low, if you remove White Africans from the statistics (they tend to be more urbanized, and more Western in behavior and outlook). Finally, if you add the horrifying spread of AIDS into the equation, anyone born in sub-Saharan Africa this century will be lucky to reach age forty.

I lived in Africa for over thirty years. Growing up there, I was infused with several African traits--traits which are not common in Western civilization. The almost-casual attitude towards death was one. (Another is a morbid fear of snakes.)

So because of my African background, I am seldom moved at the sight of death, unless it's accidental, or it affects someone close to me. (Death which strikes at strangers, of course, is mostly ignored.) Of my circle of about eighteen or so friends with whom I grew up, and whom I would consider "close", only about ten survive today--and not one of the survivors is over the age of fifty.

Two friends died from stepping on landmines while on Army duty in Namibia. Three died in horrific car accidents (and lest one thinks that this is not confined to Africa, one was caused by a kudu flying through a windshield and impaling the guy through the chest with its hoof--not your everyday traffic accident in, say, Florida). One was bitten by a snake, and died from heart failure. Another also died of heart failure, but he was a hopeless drunkard. Two were shot by muggers. The last went out on his surfboard one day and was never seen again (did I mention that sharks are plentiful off the African coasts and in the major rivers?). My situation is not uncommon in South Africa--and north of the Limpopo River (the border with Zimbabwe), I suspect that others would show worse statistics.

The death toll wasn't just confined to my friends. When I was still living in Johannesburg, the newspaper carried daily stories of people mauled by lions, or attacked by rival tribesmen, or dying from some unspeakable disease (and this was pre-AIDS Africa too) and in general, succumbing to some of Africa's many answers to the population explosion. Add to that the normal death toll from rampant crime, illness, poverty, flood, famine, traffic, and the police, and you'll begin to get the idea.

My favorite African story actually happened after I left the country. An American executive took a job over there, and on his very first day, the newspaper headlines read: "Three Headless Bodies Found".

The next day: "Three Heads Found".

The third day: "Heads Don't Match Bodies".

You can't make this stuff up.

As a result, death is treated more casually by Africans than by Westerners. I, and I suspect most Africans, am completely inured to reports of African suffering, for whatever cause. Drought causes crops to fail, thousands face starvation? Yup, that happened many times while I was growing up. Inter-tribal rivalry and warfare causes wholesale slaughter? Yep, been happening there for millennia, long before Whitey got there. Governments becoming rich and corrupt while their populations starved? Not more than nine or ten of those. In my lifetime, the following tragedies have occurred, causing untold millions of deaths: famine in Biafra, genocide in Rwanda, civil war in Angola, floods in South Africa, famine in Somalia, civil war in Sudan, famine in Ethiopia, floods in Mozambique, wholesale slaughter in Uganda, and tribal warfare in every single country. There are others, but you get the point.

Yes, all this was also true in Europe--maybe a thousand years ago. But not any more. And Europe doesn't teem with crocodiles, ultra-venomous snakes and so on.

The Dutch controlled the floods. All of Europe controls famine--it's non-existent now. Apart from a couple of examples of massive, state-sponsored slaughter (Nazi Germany, Communist Russia), Europe since 1700 doesn't even begin to compare to Africa today. Casual slaughter is another thing altogether--rare in Europe, common in Africa.

More to the point, the West has evolved into a society with a stable system of government, which follows the rule of law, and has respect for the rights and life of the individual--none of which is true in Africa.

Among old Africa hands, we have a saying, usually accompanied by a shrug: "Africa wins again." This is usually said after an incident such as:

a beloved missionary is butchered by his congregation, for no apparent reason

a tribal chief prefers to let his tribe starve to death rather than accepting food from the Red Cross (would mean he wasn't all-powerful, you see)

an entire nation starves to death, while its ruler accumulates wealth in foreign banks

a new government comes into power, promising democracy, free elections etc., provided that the freedom doesn't extend to the other tribe

the other tribe comes to power in a bloody coup, then promptly sets about slaughtering the first tribe

etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

The prognosis is bleak, because none of this mayhem shows any sign of ending. The conclusions are equally bleak, because, quite frankly, there is no answer to Africa's problems, no solution that hasn't been tried before, and failed.

Just go to the CIA World Fact Book, pick any of the African countries (Kenya, Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi etc.), and compare the statistics to any Western country (eg. Portugal, Italy, Spain, Ireland). The disparities are appalling--and it's going to get worse, not better. It has certainly got worse since 1960, when most African countries achieved independence. We, and by this I mean the West, have tried many ways to help Africa. All such attempts have failed.

1. Charity is no answer. Money simply gets appropriated by the first, or second, or third person to touch it (17 countries saw a decline in real per capita GNP between 1970 and 1999, despite receiving well over $100 billion in World Bank assistance).

2. Food isn't distributed. This happens either because there is no transportation infrastructure (bad), or the local leader deliberately withholds the supplies to starve people into submission (worse).

3. Materiel is broken, stolen or sold off for a fraction of its worth. The result of decades of "foreign aid" has resulted in a continental infrastructure which, if one excludes South Africa, couldn't support Pittsburgh.

Add to this, as I mentioned above, the endless cycle of Nature's little bag of tricks--persistent drought followed by violent flooding, a plethora of animals, reptiles and insects so dangerous that life is already cheap before Man starts playing his little reindeer games with his fellow Man--and what you are left with is: catastrophe.

The inescapable conclusion is simply one of resignation. This goes against the grain of our humanity--we are accustomed to ridding the world of this or that problem (smallpox, polio, whatever), and accepting failure is anathema to us. But, to give a classic African scenario, a polio vaccine won't work if the kids are prevented from getting the vaccine by a venal overlord, or a frightened chieftain, or a lack of roads, or by criminals who steal the vaccine and sell it to someone else. If a cure for AIDS was found tomorrow, and offered to every African nation free of charge, the growth of the disease would scarcely be checked, let alone reversed. Basically, you'd have to try to inoculate as many two-year old children as possible, and write off the two older generations.

So that is the only one response, and it's a brutal one: accept that we are powerless to change Africa, and leave them to sink or swim, by themselves.

It sounds dreadful to say it, but if the entire African continent dissolves into a seething maelstrom of disease, famine and brutality, that's just too damn bad. We have better things to do--sometimes, you just have to say, "Can't do anything about it."

The viciousness, the cruelty, the corruption, the duplicity, the savagery, and the incompetence is endemic to the entire continent, and is so much of an anathema to any right-thinking person that the civilized imagination simply stalls when faced with its ubiquity, and with the enormity of trying to fix it. The Western media shouldn't even bother reporting on it. All that does is arouse our feelings of horror, and the instinctive need to do something, anything--but everything has been tried before, and failed. Everything, of course, except self-reliance.

All we should do is make sure that none of Africa gets transplanted over to the U.S., because the danger to our society is dire if it does. I note that several U.S. churches are attempting to bring groups of African refugees over to the United States, European churches the same for Europe. Mistake. Mark my words, this misplaced charity will turn around and bite us, big time.

Even worse would be to think that the simplicity of Africa holds some kind of answers for Western society: remember "It Takes A Village"? Trust me on this: there is not one thing that Africa can give the West which hasn't been tried before and failed, not one thing that isn't a step backwards, and not one thing which is worse than, or that contradicts, what we have already.

So here's my solution for the African fiasco: a high wall around the whole continent, all the guns and bombs in the world for everyone inside, and at the end, the last one alive should do us all a favor and kill himself.

Inevitably, some Kissingerian realpolitiker is going to argue in favor of intervention, because in the vacuum of Western aid, perhaps the Communist Chinese would step in and increase their influence in the area. There are two reasons why this isn't going to happen.

Firstly, the PRC doesn't have that kind of money to throw around; and secondly, the result of any communist assistance will be precisely the same as if it were Western assistance. For the record, Mozambique and Angola are both communist countries--and both are economic disaster areas. The prognosis for both countries is disastrous--and would be the same for any other African country.

Africa has to heal itself. The West can't help it. Nor should we. The record speaks for itself.
newbie
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December 07, 2014, 05:23:37 PM
2014-12-07 23:22:04    Withdrawal    -2001 SPUDS to P9QwVvynkmTGkzDutjyx1tS7Sj2TcodvFn (Inner_1417990924W1607304E4D94B9260859ED15621)

AltxF4
full member
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December 07, 2014, 04:39:47 PM
Just to show im not a total ass il give 2000spud each to the first 5 address

LOL, Slow but here! P9QwVvynkmTGkzDutjyx1tS7Sj2TcodvFn
RJX
legendary
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December 06, 2014, 11:12:37 AM
2014-12-06 16:34:43    Withdrawal    -2001 SPUDS to PVMc****************qgz9 (ea4754043441115859aff15d5a53bc815bb010574b46a535e18bc0c3cbb796af)

RJX

Thank you very much!

newbie
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December 06, 2014, 10:37:17 AM
2014-12-06 16:34:43    Withdrawal    -2001 SPUDS to PVMc****************qgz9 (ea4754043441115859aff15d5a53bc815bb010574b46a535e18bc0c3cbb796af)

RJX
RJX
legendary
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December 06, 2014, 10:31:47 AM
Just to show im not a total ass il give 2000spud each to the first 5 address

pm sent
newbie
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December 06, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
2014-12-06 16:22:15    Withdrawal    -2001 SPUDS to PFt9RCebqEoA8f11UwEUbzbRobCW7YWwHq (Inner_1417879335W1607316B47C8D52AAA15BD29397)
legendary
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Khazad ai-menu!
December 06, 2014, 07:07:10 AM
Just to show im not a total ass il give 2000spud each to the first 5 address

I thought giveway in thread was frowned upon in bitcointlk PFt9RCebqEoA8f11UwEUbzbRobCW7YWwHq.

Anyway how are the spuds doing? 
sr. member
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December 06, 2014, 06:19:43 AM
Lol i could say that in any other coin forum and that offer would of been taken in seconds even if i was hated, speaks volumes that nobody hear!!

Il check back cuz iv got things to do
save them for a rainy day  Smiley
newbie
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December 06, 2014, 05:26:08 AM
Lol i could say that in any other coin forum and that offer would of been taken in seconds even if i was hated, speaks volumes that nobody hear!!

Il check back cuz iv got things to do
newbie
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December 06, 2014, 05:07:24 AM
Just to show im not a total ass il give 2000spud each to the first 5 address
newbie
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Merit: 0
December 06, 2014, 04:55:46 AM
Thats the problem with crypto most people think the way to make a coin successful is by adding gimmicks and features, how about putting to work what it states in the manifest like explaining a game plan and how its gonna be executed and what your doing behind the scenes to make that work.

Start simple and add to that, like the old saying goes you gotta learn to walk before you can run.

The only reason im floating here from time to time is that it sounds like a good idea but im not seeing the work or any real involvement to achieve that, i see things for how they are not what i want um to be and so do most good investors.

Famous last words that init.. he seemed so trustworthy lol.
Im only messing Dev i don't know you to comment so i aint saying either way, somethings you roll on somethings you don't.

full member
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December 06, 2014, 04:36:35 AM
I am eating potato now Lol  Grin

By the way.. I will keep my eye on this because the dev seems trusted for me
newbie
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December 06, 2014, 04:14:02 AM
Hahaha.. thank you i needed a good laugh this morning your calling somebody that's a member of Mensa a simpleton lol, dude im 34 now and been retired since 2006 that should put thing into perspective for you.

Back to the point im the only person here asking real questions to which i get no answer, i repeat....

Thats all well n good but i aint seeing any steps other than a coin creation with a huge pre mine.
How are you going to fairly distribute the pre mine, how do you know the pre mine will get to the right people and not other claimants playing the part, how are you going to create mass adoption to the coin and how are you going to handle the possible 187500000 million coin drop on the market (or queue to drop on the market considering its only 2sats(now 1) which will most likely happen going on what happened after auracoin distribution stage.
Also the minting stage is way too long, nobody's buying it there's a 17btc sell wall with a 0.72btc buy at 2sats with no movement, it will be delisted from c-cex way before the end of mining stage for low volume.

And i asked that weeks ago!!
There a hole load of other questions too but whats the point when you cant get a answer to the most basic of um!!
legendary
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Well, That's Crypto :-\
December 05, 2014, 05:24:30 PM
Lol its gonna take more than a logo what u think its early 2013 still or something, down to 1 sat and that's where it stays till it gets delisted. No work no gain!

Spoken like a true simpleton.

This coin doesn't even distribute to farmers until POW ends. Looking to be part of something worthwhile that goes beyond the simple PnD or medium hold? Buy some spuds.

What would you propose ljm81new? What new features in your opinion would make potato better? hmmm?




My hope is that PotatoCoin eventually benefits those less fortunate than any of us.
newbie
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December 01, 2014, 03:31:35 PM
What two logos, i dint know that that changes my mine about everything  Grin

Just to let you know dev iv been told your coins aint confirming
full member
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December 01, 2014, 01:32:18 PM
How do farmers control the price and keep it stable? Everything can be gamed. Is this pegged to anything?
sr. member
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December 01, 2014, 01:30:57 PM
Lol its gonna take more than a logo what u think its early 2013 still or something, down to 1 sat and that's where it stays till it gets delisted. No work no gain!
how about 2 new logo's Smiley
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