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July 21, 2023, 01:24:32 PM
#35
Op, Before raising any accusation in this forum about any known Alt account or account farming, you must be able to gather enough evidence or reasonable proof to back your claims,
Many times some members start researching against other members out of personal interest, thereby posting against those members when they find a minor connection. The evidence given by the OP is very weak, it could also be a mistake. Because many times members make a mistake while adding each other's address while posting the joining post quickly. Since there is no transaction between them, it does not prove any connection between them. Hope the members will be more careful about these matters and pay more attention to such investigation to gather enough evidence.
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July 21, 2023, 12:51:21 PM
#34
Op, Before raising any accusation in this forum about any known Alt account or account farming, you must be able to gather enough evidence or reasonable proof to back your claims, which will show that indeed such member is into account farming, not just to open a thread when you don't enough evidence on the ground about what you saying; hence it will be baseless and will not hold water.



newbie
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July 21, 2023, 08:22:51 AM
#33
So, why don't you share us names those accounts that were allegedly stolen from you, but this time provide a proper evidence for your claims.
Sharing the link of my accounts
1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ltcrstrbrt-214323
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gigabit-198112
3. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bluedeep-236814

You forgot to provide valid evidence for your claims, just like Rikafip pointed out. No one will believe a random newbie with such baseless claims without concrete and reliable proof.

I think what I am claiming is valid. I will come up with more valid evidence very soon.

{
  "address": "0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624A",
  "msg": "My Account 1. ltcrstrbrt 2. GigaBit 3. bluedeep\n I am the original owner of this account\n @JollyGood You investigate it properly\n\n Dated 21-07-2023",
  "sig": "0xd5cb38c0ee532eb6ec4b28c17ba8924c696f838e1b78cda49751d74024a80dca528047651eedc e6e496fa81b1ae5517d0108823f879fc3ba590589790d1a6c5a1b",
  "version": "2"
}
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July 21, 2023, 07:28:28 AM
#32
I am quite intrigued about the allegations and claims made by loginsam45 because it is maybe the first time I have read a member claiming his alt-accounts were stolen and he is listing the names of the alleged stolen accounts.

It seemed the best way forward to discuss that was to have a dedicated thread in order to keep this thread on-topic. The dedicated thread to the issue of loginsam45 and his alleged stolen accounts is here: loginsam45 and his alleged alt-accounts: ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep



So, why don't you share us names those accounts that were allegedly stolen from you, but this time provide a proper evidence for your claims.
Sharing the link of my accounts
1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ltcrstrbrt-214323
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gigabit-198112
3. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bluedeep-236814

You forgot to provide valid evidence for your claims, just like Rikafip pointed out. No one will believe a random newbie with such baseless claims without concrete and reliable proof.
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July 21, 2023, 06:21:23 AM
#31
So, why don't you share us names those accounts that were allegedly stolen from you, but this time provide a proper evidence for your claims.
Sharing the link of my accounts
1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ltcrstrbrt-214323
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gigabit-198112
3. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bluedeep-236814

You forgot to provide valid evidence for your claims, just like Rikafip pointed out. No one will believe a random newbie with such baseless claims without concrete and reliable proof.
newbie
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July 21, 2023, 12:04:03 AM
#30
So, why don't you share us names those accounts that were allegedly stolen from you, but this time provide a proper evidence for your claims.
Sharing the link of my accounts
1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ltcrstrbrt-214323
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gigabit-198112
3. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bluedeep-236814
sr. member
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July 20, 2023, 01:55:37 PM
#29
Maybe some have found it interesting to be hunting after others in other for them to get recognized or something, before one can or should come up with something like this, the fact must have been well established with enough convincing reason, linking address together alone is not what others do to burst scammers and cheaters or raised alarm for ban evasion, in this case, the two accounts aren't participating on the same campaign, while the forum's law does not go against alts.
newbie
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July 20, 2023, 01:29:29 AM
#28
Is your account get banned? this would be time consuming since you need to create new thread about ban appeal too, you can check your old accounts were got banned or not in this site https://bpip.org/
I don't know much about bpip site please check my accounts.
hero member
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July 20, 2023, 01:13:16 AM
#27
Can you help me get my accounts back if I share the names of my accounts?
He's not a moderator or a part of recovery team, so I don't think he's able to get your account back.

If you want to get your account back, you need to follow the instructions in this thread Recovering hacked/lost accounts, sign a message from your old address is a must.

Is your account get banned? this would be time consuming since you need to create new thread about ban appeal too, you can check your old accounts were got banned or not in this site https://bpip.org/
newbie
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July 20, 2023, 01:03:50 AM
#26
So, why don't you share us names those accounts that were allegedly stolen from you, but this time provide a proper evidence for your claims.
Can you help me get my accounts back if I share the names of my accounts?
newbie
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July 10, 2023, 12:17:51 PM
#25
Hi I am new here and learing somethings all the time, i can ask you one thing.
How can you know this if you only been on the forum for some days?

Is it because you have another account but dont want to accuse this/them with your mainly account?

May I ask why is this if so?
Why dont want people to say stuff from their original account sometimes and do it from a unkown account?
What is the reason for this?

Sorry if i sound stupid or rude, thats not my point, my point is to really know why people dont want to say some stuff from their original account.

Thank you and sorry for "off-topic".
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July 10, 2023, 07:35:51 AM
#24
Account wallet Connected :
irsykes [ Sr Member ]
cytpoway121 [ Member ]

If the accounts are connected, what else? Did they cheat campaigns ? If yes, post your evidence and if it is true, the accounts would be tagged. If you don't have an evidence you may consider not to create a thread until you get all your evidence. Some people say you should create a thread and allow the community to investigate. I cannot investigate and I do not even know how to carry out such investigations. It is better you get your evidence yourself.

But if you do not have an evidence, close this thread and keep hunting.
hero member
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July 09, 2023, 07:31:55 PM
#23
~snip~

Do you have personal issues with those accounts that you have listed above? It seems so to me, or is this account you use to post this your alt too? Because I still can't figure out how a newbie will just create an account a few days ago and go straight to reputation and start engaging in conversations and contributing to an ongoing investigation, a Newbie will point out which account is Alt and which one is not Alt. Your actions have clearly stated that either you are seeking the attention of the people or for the purpose that is best known to you. Or you might have some hidden motive for why you really created this topic. One thing that I'm certainly sure of is that your account just got the attention that it deserved.
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July 09, 2023, 04:37:12 PM
#22
loginsam45 you have been registered in the forum since 3 days ago therefore your rank is newbie but as you are already posting about possible linked accounts in the Reputation board, I would say it is clear you are another example of someone who is using this new account but has at least one other account.

I could be wrong but if the idea was to have your posts merited you are going about this the wrong way. You should consider taking the opportunity to explain why you are using this loginsam45 account. Also, consider letting us know how many other accounts you have and what your motivations are for having them.
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July 09, 2023, 04:23:52 PM
#21
Sometimes people make mistake. I think it was a copy paste error from one of them. These are common mistakes I believe bounty hunters make in the cause of trying to meet up  with their registration. Anyone canale such mistake while doing some job. If you think these accounts are owned by one person, I think there should be more proof to back up your claims.

I hear some members here say there account was taken away from them would it not be better they mention the names of their various accounts they claimed was taken away from them so that investigation could be done so as to recover their accounts back to them.
sr. member
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July 08, 2023, 08:24:16 AM
#20
As mentioned by my seniors that posted before my post,OP you evidence is weak to look into this. It is a mistake that resulted from proof of authentication which was copied by cryptoway121. Most people do this mistake but often correct it immediately. cyptoway121 failed to notice his mistake due to some reasons which I can't say. If you friend stole your three account as you said then you should give names of the account for forum members to investigate if it is true.
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July 08, 2023, 06:17:28 AM
#19
I had many accounts in this forum but they are no longer under my control. My close friend cheated me and took the accounts for which I don't have high rank account now.
You should do what Rikafip said and also it would mean a great step against hackers, account farming if you exposed the sites/telegram channel/dark web market places from where you bought those accounts. Don't dox anyone just give up the names of places where high ranked accounts are being sold.
legendary
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July 08, 2023, 02:15:02 AM
#18
Yes you are right I am not new in this forum. I had many accounts in this forum but they are no longer under my control. My close friend cheated me and took the accounts for which I don't have high rank account now. For which I am posting with this newbie account. I have been back to the forum for three days.
Interesting. Instead of creating atopic about this friend who cheated you out of your own accounts, you decided catch bounty abusers.

So, why don't you share us names those accounts that were allegedly stolen from you, but this time provide a proper evidence for your claims.
newbie
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July 08, 2023, 01:17:03 AM
#17
@JollyGood You have taken a good initiative I think there are some other DT members including you for whom this forum no longer has trading accounts like it used to.  Such warnings will stop corruption from the forum.  I think you took strict action against those who bought and sold accounts in 2022, for which now the forum is much stronger.

In my opinion, you are no stranger or new to this forum, because you already know about trading, JollyGood and DT.
New newbies don't know anything about it, only those who have been here for a long time know all that, in future if you find alt cheats in the campaign, try to post with your main account and mark them as cheaters.
Yes you are right I am not new in this forum. I had many accounts in this forum but they are no longer under my control. My close friend cheated me and took the accounts for which I don't have high rank account now. For which I am posting with this newbie account. I have been back to the forum for three days.
legendary
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July 07, 2023, 06:16:15 PM
#16
You should, create this topic with your main account, not with your alt, so you can flag them as imposters.
There's nothing wrong with doing it with an alt account - it's the best way to prevent conflicts.

I also agree with some of the users here - the evidence is too weak and may differ if these two accounts have transactions between wallets and are connected in other ways such as use of the same social media and such.

I also came across a similar case - but I'm not going to bother about both accounts as they are users with different local activity. Both users are hero rank - but I'm not sure they actually have any connection with each other. Of course there's weirdness - but somehow I'm not sure about what's going on there.
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July 07, 2023, 04:33:58 PM
#15
It's a common mistake people does overtime while submitting an application they may decide to copy the rest details while edit out the original owner address and profile,  if they fails to carry it out and it happens that someone sees it automatically is being said of having alt account to enroll in a particular campaign it turns to bounty abused, from my experience in my first bounty I joined I have seen some of them with same error but if you carefully check the spreadsheet you would see they both has separate address. Sometimes if the spreadsheet carries same address then I can say it's a deliberate act and cheating, and may results being tag for using multiple accounts to enroll into a campaign.
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July 07, 2023, 02:06:08 PM
#14
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It looks like both accounts were farmed and sold.  cytpoway121 used pretty decent English until some time in 2022, and had never posted in a local board before then.  The current user isn't bad at English, but it seems to have gotten less natural and more forced since then.

None that bothers me, no trusted reviews for either user existed before the alleged change of ownership, and as others have pointed out the two accounts did not participate in the same campaign.  Connected alts applying for the same campaign is not the same as participation.
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July 07, 2023, 12:50:18 PM
#13
@loginsam45, I believe you have read correctly what users opinions are on this thread; there's every possibility that @cytpoway121 might have just copied the Proof of registration code of loginsam45 and mistakenly published it without even changing his address. There is no crime committed by those users, and there is no reason for any DT member to tag those accounts. I suggest you lock up the thread for now. Maybe if you have some good proof of those accounts violating the forum rules, you can open the thread again.



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July 07, 2023, 11:51:16 AM
#12
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OP, let's say they link or Alt, based on the connection you get, of course I see them in the COMBO campaign of both, but if you believe they Alt, tell the campaign manager/Combo, because they are cheating let the manager judge whether they get paid or not.

You should, create this topic with your main account, not with your alt, so you can flag them as imposters.

Why I say that, because I saw your post here.
@JollyGood You have taken a good initiative I think there are some other DT members including you for whom this forum no longer has trading accounts like it used to.  Such warnings will stop corruption from the forum.  I think you took strict action against those who bought and sold accounts in 2022, for which now the forum is much stronger.

In my opinion, you are no stranger or new to this forum, because you already know about trading, JollyGood and DT.
New newbies don't know anything about it, only those who have been here for a long time know all that, in future if you find alt cheats in the campaign, try to post with your main account and mark them as cheaters.
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July 07, 2023, 11:19:03 AM
#11
The OP's evidence is too weak to link these two accounts, I'm pretty sure that both aren't connected. My reason:
  • Both are from different locales
irsykes account most likely changed the original owner. Look closely, he wrote in the Indonesian local section in 2018. After no posts from this section.
Although it is rather strange that the difference in registration for this bounty company is two days, It is difficult to assume that the second account copied the registration, which was published two days earlier.

Bitcointalk name: irsykes
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/irsykes-408237
Telegram username: @irsykesss97
BSC Address: 0x63A967a11d8d65d8b80E3C8Bc2Bf230B20dd0AE7
Joined Campaign: Signature

Bitcointalk name: cytpoway121
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cytpoway121-2202709
Telegram username: @cytpoway
BSC Address: 0x3Cc4cDb05a1F917388FE2cE0f0c7a699cAAB1723
Post Count: 1746
Joined Campaign: Signature & Article & Video
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July 07, 2023, 11:16:56 AM
#10
As it has been said already, the two accounts may be linked together and found to be under one single entity but we also have to consider what's at stake after doing a thorough investigation on them both, the two accounts are connected by wallet address, the second one was not on the same video campaign and the forum's rules and regulations does not go against having a alt account, no call for a ban evasion and nothing, so there's no clear evidence indeed to take against the two even if they are alts and having alts is not against the forum's rules.
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July 07, 2023, 11:14:22 AM
#9
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Your evidence in this case is weak. cytpoway121 posted that BSC address only once, after irsykes in the same bounty thread. It's probably just a dumb mistake after cytpoway121 used someone else's post as a template but forgot to change his own BSC address. He edited the post shortly afterward, though. Shit like this happens, and it doesn't necessarily mean they're using alt accounts, unless there is some additional supporting evidence.
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July 07, 2023, 11:08:18 AM
#8
If yes attach evidence if No then close the thread and move on...... Don't waste our time.
He did share some (weak) evidence that both joined the same bounty campaign using the same address but that alone is not enough to prove that there is indeed connection between those two accounts.



Looking at his (very short) post history, looks like OP is an alt account on merit fishing mission.

As you mentioned, Op is active on the reputation board trying to build reputation or fish merit. A newbie whose second post on the forum was about account trading; a topic that most true newbies would be unaware of for the first 6 months or so.

The evidence he presented could be the result of a failed POA copy and paste. It happens all the time.
legendary
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July 07, 2023, 10:19:39 AM
#7
If yes attach evidence if No then close the thread and move on...... Don't waste our time.
He did share some (weak) evidence that both joined the same bounty campaign using the same address but that alone is not enough to prove that there is indeed connection between those two accounts.



Looking at his (very short) post history, looks like OP is an alt account on merit fishing mission.
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July 07, 2023, 07:55:02 AM
#6
Alt accounts are allowed on the forum.

Except they are breaking the rules! Are these accounts breaking the rules? If yes attach evidence if No then close the thread and move on...... Don't waste our time.
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July 07, 2023, 06:54:37 AM
#5
No satisfactory evidence here.

Could have been an error that the second user cytpoway121 forgot to edit out the address after copying Proof of Authentication, which most members actually do in the signature and bounty campaign threads. If you have evidence to show that alt accounts are involved in bounty campaign cheating or abuse, then you can make a report, otherwise you should ignore such cases.
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July 07, 2023, 03:25:34 AM
#4
The OP's evidence is too weak to link these two accounts, I'm pretty sure that both aren't connected. My reason:
  • Both are from different locales
  • There are no associated transactions as far as my search goes
  • cytpoway121 only posts irsykes's address once which in most cases is an accidental error
  • irsykes never join video campaigns
hero member
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July 07, 2023, 02:09:30 AM
#3
Having multiple accounts is allowed in the forum, so you should list out why those accounts need tagging for example if they have participated and claimed reward in the same campaign that does not allow alt registration.
I don't think it's really so hard for clicking both accounts application, it's clear they're participating in the same campaign and there's a rule of no multiple accounts usage. @cytpoway121 was use 0x63A967a11d8d65d8b80E3C8Bc2Bf230B20dd0AE7 address and later change it to 0x3Cc4cDb05a1F917388FE2cE0f0c7a699cAAB1723 in order to avoid get linked with @irsykes.

But I still wouldn't tag the users because there's a reason of mistakenly copied someone's application excuse. If @OP just wait a little longer after the distribution begin, maybe we might see if both accounts is really a cheater or not. Now they would be more careful since someone have busted them.
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July 07, 2023, 01:44:03 AM
#2
I'd advice you to go through this thread and copy the format there Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk IV (2023 Q3) [MODERATED] 🔬

Having multiple accounts is allowed in the forum, so you should list out why those accounts need tagging for example if they have participated and claimed reward in the same campaign that does not allow alt registration. That way it will be easier for DT members to analyze your post properly and do the needful if indeed your claims are true.

I haven't check the profile you presented but for now all I see is you highlighting the same wallet address of two users you believe to be operated by the same users, no additional information.
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July 07, 2023, 12:41:12 AM
#1
Account wallet Connected :
irsykes [ Sr Member ]
cytpoway121 [ Member ]


Bitcointalk name: cytpoway121
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cytpoway121-2202709
Telegram username: @cytpoway
BSC Address: 0x63A967a11d8d65d8b80E3C8Bc2Bf230B20dd0AE7
Post Count: 1746
Joined Campaign: Signature & Article & Video
https://ninjastic.space/post/62449083

Bitcointalk name: irsykes
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/irsykes-408237
Telegram username: @irsykesss97
BSC Address: 0x63A967a11d8d65d8b80E3C8Bc2Bf230B20dd0AE7
Joined Campaign: Signature

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