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Quote from: PX-Z on October 17, 2022, 11:10:23 AM

It's all over the thread, talking about his account's negative trust (faking KYC) in relation to his threads of Stake's claims without strong evidence for the "match fixing".

I would also relate the KYC issue to his match-making issue as well, in terms of who's to believe in. Would you believe someone who will try to submit multiple different ID for the KYC? (suspicious and shady activity) Also, OP has no supporting documents or proofs to deny the match fixing issue other than his own denial.

Quote from: PX-Z on October 17, 2022, 11:10:23 AM

If the account suspension is related to faking KYC then i would believe Stake did the right thing, that's obviously illegal.

Just as you've mentioned, Faking KYC is illegal already and could be used to suspend the account of OP however that's not what stake basing their decision to suspend OP's account but rather the match-fixing issue that they fully believe in.

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Quote from: PX-Z on October 17, 2022, 11:10:23 AM

But suspending an account without any strong evidence? I will tell its unreasonable and how should i believe that. That's already how many months ago yet there's no final conclusion of this investigation. That's why i said people keep blindly believing of a reputed site saying whatever it is because they are reputed.

I agree on PX-Z stand here since no one care to user complaints if the casino being accused is reputable even though the user really suffer on long time of waiting for his account reviewed. I believe the SCAM part is really not true but the OP account is indeed lock for a long time.

I won't say that it's unreasonable as there are some suspicious connections that the OP has from a match fixer, based on the statement Stunna provided. Also, it's fairly common that the case could take months or even years to be investigated as the issue involves a lot of money and a criminal activity which is match fixing.

Quote from: Stunna on February 21, 2022, 03:03:39 PM

While I am having to greatly redact what I can share due to an ongoing investigation and not wanting to reveal our internal integrity measures. I will provide some insight into this situation. It is of our firm belief that user is engaged in match fixing and these concerns were echoed by our odds provider who independently warned us of your activity. On this thread you are witnessing some members of this match fixing ring all desperate to get their cut of this money.

OP found some information regarding fixed table tennis matches as he started taking maximum amount of profit from bets there where he never wagered before like that. His own XRP address had a transaction sent to a prior caught match fixer which looks like a payout for the information he got via him.

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After having a red tag with your account related into scams and accusations I guess no more will courage with your words, also you can't even provide information regarding the issue. Also regarding your issues you are known with the use of fake accounts and information which is part of the identity theft of other people or just creating a new identity just to make abuse the system.

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Quote from: Jemzx00 on October 17, 2022, 10:49:53 AM

No one had said that his actions outside this forum are not true as no one cared whatever he does outside the forum as well as outside his case against Stake. In regard to proofs, OP have not mentioned any proof as well other than his denial with the accusation on his match making issue with Stake.

It's all over the thread, talking about his account's negative trust (faking KYC) in relation to his threads of Stake's claims without strong evidence for the "match fixing".

Quote from: Jemzx00 on October 17, 2022, 10:49:53 AM

It's not about defending the service or platform; it leans more on people who are likely to believe with Stake rather than someone that has not provided any solid proof that the accusation against him is false or not true. Also, just as Stake or Stunna previously said, the main issue is not about KYC issue (which is true and could be used as supporting evidence that OP is suspicious and likely to do shady things) but rather the match-fixing issue that has been addressed by Stunna and still in an on-going investigation within Stake.

If the account suspension is related to faking KYC then i would believe Stake did the right thing, that's obviously illegal.

But suspending an account without any strong evidence? I will tell its unreasonable and how should i believe that. That's already how many months ago yet there's no final conclusion of this investigation. That's why i said people keep blindly believing of a reputed site saying whatever it is because they are reputed.

Let's be clear, I'm not siding OP or saying he should get that thousands of dollars from his account's balance, his actions of faking KYC is illegal. But i don't understand of Stake giving such reasons of suspending account. Because if they can reason out things just like this, then probably this will not be the last.

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Quote from: PX-Z on October 17, 2022, 08:56:35 AM

Having negative trust rating on this forum doesn't mean that all his actions outside this forum should be considered as not true, lie, etc. About proofs, check his post history, or thread posted its all over there.

No one had said that his actions outside this forum are not true as no one cared whatever he does outside the forum as well as outside his case against Stake. In regard to proofs, OP have not mentioned any proof as well other than his denial with the accusation on his match making issue with Stake.

Quote from: PX-Z on October 17, 2022, 08:56:35 AM

People should stop defending a service if the accusation is true no matter how reputed it is, or the case were closed but with unreasonable solution. Despite the attacked of some or most people here to OP of submitting fake KYC, they just blindly believe Stake about the claim of match fixing without no strong evidence given. Lol.

It's not about defending the service or platform; it leans more on people who are likely to believe with Stake rather than someone that has not provided any solid proof that the accusation against him is false or not true. Also, just as Stake or Stunna previously said, the main issue is not about KYC issue (which is true and could be used as supporting evidence that OP is suspicious and likely to do shady things) but rather the match-fixing issue that has been addressed by Stunna and still in an on-going investigation within Stake.

Quote from: PX-Z on October 17, 2022, 08:56:35 AM

Now, it looks like once a reputed service will always be reputed base on its supporter or whatever they call it, even though it's unreasonable already. Lmao.

Nope, if OP has substantial proofs or evidence, things could likely be the other way around and Stake's reputation could be ruined.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 17, 2022, 08:18:06 AM

Constant scam accusations against Stake these days though most of them are pure crap while only a couple of them are legit. Tough to trust op here considering his past reputation which is reflected through his negative trust ratings.

I feel that op is fighting a pointless battle here since I don't really think Stake management will take his claims seriously unless he provides solid proof as some of the posters above mentioned.

Having negative trust rating on this forum doesn't mean that all his actions outside this forum should be considered as not true, lie, etc. About proofs, check his post history, or thread posted its all over there.

People should stop defending a service if the accusation is true no matter how reputed it is, or the case were closed but with unreasonable solution. Despite the attacked of some or most people here to OP of submitting fake KYC, they just blindly believe Stake about the claim of match fixing without no strong evidence given. Lol.

Now, it looks like once a reputed service will always be reputed base on its supporter or whatever they call it, even though it's unreasonable already. Lmao.

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Constant scam accusations against Stake these days though most of them are pure crap while only a couple of them are legit. Tough to trust op here considering his past reputation which is reflected through his negative trust ratings.

I feel that op is fighting a pointless battle here since I don't really think Stake management will take his claims seriously unless he provides solid proof as some of the posters above mentioned.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 17, 2022, 04:12:10 AM

You have problem with your KYC and you save big money there? Am I too stupid to understand what you are going to do next lol
Regardless of anything even without clear evidence you swear very energetically about this but don't show any evidence with the account you have. I even doubt your account that has a lot of money is just fictitious Grin

Don't be offended we talk of course it must be based on facts and what you do by continuing to swear like this in the absence of this fact only makes you look worse.

It will only take you a couple of minutes to browse his post history and see what’s the OP post history. His case of long review for his account case is legit and Stunna already acknowledged it. But the issue is already tagged as solve after Stake concluded base on there own judgement that OP is involved in match fixing due to his perfect betting history.

This topic is surely debatable because Stake has no proof but only just a personal assessment since match can’t be proven with physical or valid evidence. Cheesy

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You have problem with your KYC and you save big money there? Am I too stupid to understand what you are going to do next lol
Regardless of anything even without clear evidence you swear very energetically about this but don't show any evidence with the account you have. I even doubt your account that has a lot of money is just fictitious Grin

Don't be offended we talk of course it must be based on facts and what you do by continuing to swear like this in the absence of this fact only makes you look worse.

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Quote from: fathafraink on October 16, 2022, 10:23:40 PM

I think what you do, is a impolite act, it's better if you ask about your problem in the Stake thread on this forum, and then ask permission to do pm, then do pm him/her (manager of Stake). So if this problem has been solved, you can review or reply to the thread, and it can be important information for people, through your experience.

Here is Stake Thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-the-leading-crypto-casino-drake-ufc-everton-alfa-romeo-f1-team-2072589

More over if the proper evidence is provided and convince people that there's something wrong then they could intervene to help otherwise there are lot of such accusations against different casino and it's hard to tell who is genuine case or not.There have been some issues but with following rules and proof the players have their refund from casino but @OP is having a different approach which cannot help a lot.

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Quote from: abel1337 on October 13, 2022, 08:14:23 AM

Wouldn't really trust someone who got a red trust with a valid reasons and it seems that the red trust you get is from cheating stake by match fixing and submitting fake id. I see no reason why they will reply to you given that you are caught red handed on the scam accusation you made against stake. There are some flaws about your scam accusation and even admitted that you used your family member for the KYC which is a red flag for most of casinos.

You do understand that all his red trust is coming from this scam accusation, right?

So stake said he bet on fixed matches. Why do you believe that? Did stake provide evidence to this claim? No they did not and still ALL you stake signature people say it's true, amazing. If Stunna says the earth is flat everybody he wouldn't question is as well. Grin

Come on, give me a break!

Stake just needs to show 1 single evidence he bet on fixed matches and it's all good, but yet there is nothing.
Where is an official report?

Anyway in such situation the OP ought to give us some information and he is just crying. With such thread i don`t see any reason to believe him, the trust is just additional prove against the OP.
And the Stake doesn`t need to prove anything in such threads. Honestly, i have no time to search all threads of the OP and analyze his trust but in this thread he made nothing to prove his situation.

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I think what you do, is an impolite act, it's better if you ask about your problem in the Stake thread on this forum, and then ask permission to do pm, then do pm him/her (manager of Stake). So if this problem has been solved, you can review or reply to the thread, and it can be important information for people, through your experience.

Here is Stake Thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-the-leading-crypto-casino-drake-ufc-everton-alfa-romeo-f1-team-2072589

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Wouldn't really trust someone who got a red trust with a valid reasons and it seems that the red trust you get is from cheating stake by match fixing and submitting fake id. I see no reason why they will reply to you given that you are caught red handed on the scam accusation you made against stake. There are some flaws about your scam accusation and even admitted that you used your family member for the KYC which is a red flag for most of casinos.

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The story is of course sad, it would be interesting to know how much the OP has blocked stake, it is strange of course that people do not read the rules or, knowing the rules, try to cheat and forgery of the documents provided.

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too often threads like this accuse but don't include evidence, I was thinking maybe there are other gambling sites that want to drop stake sites, but I won't think much like that, the OP should have provided evidence before making threads not only with words, so far I've been playing there Stake processes deposits and withdrawals well without any problems as long as we follow the rules available there

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on October 12, 2022, 02:59:56 PM

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He already shared this case 6 months ago, but someone in a stake sig campaign of course jumps to defend stake without proper reading.

You must be out of your mind to think I am defending stake, how does my comment imply that I am defending stake? If I wasn't wearing stake's signature, my comment would still be the same as long as the OP posted this accusation in the wrong board and also without any evidence.

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So you think this happened to the OP yesterday? This story is months old. check OP's posting history. The original scam accusation is from february: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-holding-my-balance-70000-claiming-odds-provider-investigation-5383835

If indeed, OP has posted about this issue before, then he should have mentioned the previous thread in the OP so that readers don't take it he's posting about the issue for the first time, or do you go about looking at user's post history before replying to their thread?, then good for you bud, I am not jobless.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on October 12, 2022, 09:04:09 PM

Quote from: mak013 on October 11, 2022, 06:56:36 AM

I don`t think that the problem is the stake. The trust shows us the fake KYC, so it looks like that the OP tried to cheat casino but was caught. The one more reason is that there is no any information from the OP, just a cry.
@Baskin198 If you give some proves it would be easier to believe you but you made you trust by yourself so it is difficult enough to believe.

There is not much to see here as the case seems to be clear, even if stake could not prove the OP was engaged in match fixing he failed to pass KYC with at least two different identities, maybe 3 who knows, and most likely somewhere on the TOS of stake there are very harsh consequences for anyone trying to do that.

So while such a massive loss always brings in me some sort of sympathy for the one that lost so much money, it is clear to me the OP is responsible for what it is happening to him.

It is always so, if you break the rules. And in such situation it is a huge mistake to berak the ToS and after that het a large deposit. I think that all big casinos have security and if they work normally - they always inspect accounts with big deposits before withdrawal. It is possible to find some compromise usually but if someone like the OP cries and don`t try to help the security to solve such situation - the casino mostly use ToS to decide what to do.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on October 12, 2022, 02:59:56 PM

OP, please go and rest, it is actually funny when a scammer turns around to claim he or she was scammed, your trust score already says alot about you.

First, Stake held your money for 6 months and you are just talking about it now, and not even with any form of evidence, and in the wrong board too, you are not a newbie on this forum, you should already know the right board to make your scam and accusation posts, and also should know what is required of you so as to get the community's support.
So please get your acts right and stop whinning here.

He already shared this case 6 months ago, but someone in a stake sig campaign of course jumps to defend stake without proper reading.

What do you mean or who do you intend to deceive? The post you quoted above happened just yesterday, why did you say it happened 6 months ago? That is very deceitful and it will make you not to be trusted by anyone.
Moreover, the information in Op is a total crap. An allegation without evidence, coming from a serial cheater.

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Lately, Stake is both in the scam section and here in the gambling section with a lot of accusations but this is one accusation that will not stand up against Stake, first OP is not giving us anything just a warning post without a valid reason to back up his accusation, second, he has a bad rating for game fixing and providing fake ID, you are a boy who cried wolf here nobody will believe you anymore because of your bad behavior on casinos you're playing, I hope other concern will be address by the Stake team.

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Quote from: mak013 on October 11, 2022, 06:56:36 AM

I don`t think that the problem is the stake. The trust shows us the fake KYC, so it looks like that the OP tried to cheat casino but was caught. The one more reason is that there is no any information from the OP, just a cry.
@Baskin198 If you give some proves it would be easier to believe you but you made you trust by yourself so it is difficult enough to believe.

There is not much to see here as the case seems to be clear, even if stake could not prove the OP was engaged in match fixing he failed to pass KYC with at least two different identities, maybe 3 who knows, and most likely somewhere on the TOS of stake there are very harsh consequences for anyone trying to do that.

So while such a massive loss always brings in me some sort of sympathy for the one that lost so much money, it is clear to me the OP is responsible for what it is happening to him.

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Please before accusing such a big casino with such a sensitive matter, atleast provide some proofs.
We have been playing at Stake from many years. Till today I haven’t faced any single problem with them. I am expecting this happened with other people also. So yes apart from writing in Red colour, if you have any proofs to present, then that will be great.
Moreover you should also required to mention the scenario, that exactly happened with you. Then only people will believe to your accusations.

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