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legendary
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EDIT: scratch that, inactive accounts also get less now. Until last month, wife's platinum 2 account always had around 20-22$ pre and post monthly, now it's 8$. Stake did it again.

Reasonable enough if adjustment is applied to inactive accounts but I still see some claims in their forum those who still active wagering (and losing) also get lower amount although I am not sure the claim is legit or not. Below is the claim in their forum that I'm referring to:
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Lmfao, I wagered 20k lost 1.7k and I got 8$ as P2

If it is true, there must be something wrong because I received $27 with similar wager statistic but I'm in profit this month. Well, I think Stake should announce the requirement to keep the bonuses remain the same. Lets say "wager at least xx thousands dollar per month" to get the base amount of the bonuses. 
legendary
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The only way to confirm it.

It's by doing that, let's say you make an activity every weeks you created wagering around more than 7000-8000$:
- How much do you get from a weekly bonus by wagering more than 7000-8000$
- How much do you get from the weekly stream (make sure always have success rate claim up to 90%)
- How much do you get from monthly by wagering 7000-8000x 4 weeks = 30,000$-35,000$.

Then you combined (Weekly + Monthly) against total bonus you are get from weekly stream from 4 weeks.

You lose a minimum of $80 to wager $8000 for the week..... and then you are $2000 under the $10 000 that Eddie are using as a parameter to determine the drop. So in all likelihood, you might miss some of the drops.

I have calculated the last couple of months and the combined drops during the stream is between $40 to $60 in total.... so you still lose +/- $20 to $40 IF you managed to get all of them. Your $8000 weekly wager might be too low for the drop and then we have the errors with the bonus claiming system.... where you miss more of the claims.

No matter what you do..... you always spend more than what you receive.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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The only way to confirm it.

It's by doing that, let's say you make an activity every weeks you created wagering around more than 7000-8000$:
- How much do you get from a weekly bonus by wagering more than 7000-8000$
- How much do you get from the weekly stream (make sure always have success rate claim up to 90%)
- How much do you get from monthly by wagering 7000-8000x 4 weeks = 30,000$-35,000$.

Then you combined (Weekly + Monthly) against total bonus you are get from weekly stream from 4 weeks.
legendary
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EDIT: scratch that, inactive accounts also get less now. Until last month, wife's platinum 2 account always had around 20-22$ pre and post monthly, now it's 8$. Stake did it again.

https://stakecommunity.com/topic/76529-bonuses-have-been-lowered/

Yeah the monthly bonus is reduced by 50% or more for those who are not active and pre/post-monthly reduced by 50% for all users this decision is effective as of this month unfortunately we did not get any announcements, we don't know yet whether this decision is permanent or there is a possibility of change while we still hope back to normal.

However, you need to wager with a minimum at least more than 7,000-8,000$. Now, seem like I gonna to focused for the stream only (not really focused on weekly, post or monthly).

Monthly and weekly are still the best options for active players I haven't seen any bonus changes on these two bonuses whereas for pre/post-monthly this is not something to focus on because it is part of the celebration and does not affect to the wager



Referring to the message in the email, it looks like we have another hope in August

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While we're still in July, claim a post-monthly bonus, which is a bit of a taster for a bigger monthly bonus that will come in August

legendary
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Platinum 3 should be at least 20-30.

Now got 10$ my wagering is around 15,000$ - 20,000$, IMO the only thing still profitable are from the stream with around a drop amount of 4-6x times with estimation normal drop 3-5$x5x times + the last drop of around 7-15$ (you got potential more than 25-30$ from stream).

However, you need to wager with a minimum at least more than 7,000-8,000$. Now, seem like I gonna to focused for the stream only (not really focused on weekly, post or monthly).
hero member
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For those who waited, post monthly bonus came today.  Wink

Here is the link if someone can’t see the email:
https://playstake.info/bonus?code=julypostmonthly86nky2g3ba

Seems like it’s still a fixed amount for the vip level, I got the same amount as usual, even though I severely reduced my wagering.

Enjoy and good luck, don’t lose it too fast , haha.

EDIT: scratch that, inactive accounts also get less now. Until last month, wife's platinum 2 account always had around 20-22$ pre and post monthly, now it's 8$. Stake did it again.

https://stakecommunity.com/topic/76529-bonuses-have-been-lowered/
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legendary
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Stake US with the main website has different things, even the promotion is not the same (like drop and other things). Have different days, the VIP-Host tells us the post-monthly will be on any day. So, that's mean is clear this month we got the post-monthly bonus. My guess, we will get the bonus before Saturday as always.
legendary
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By the way, the post monthly bonus is not coming yet while they have sent it to the Stake.us more than 24hours ago.
I'm not sure why stake do not send it globally to all users at the same time.
Do they always send same bonuses for the users of both platforms at the same time? I'm not familiar with the bonuses of Stake.us. Post-monthly isn't a promised one, they will give it on Thursday or Friday if they have really planned it for Stake.com users too. Stake birthday is on the next month. They have to spend a lot of money for their birthday celebration. There will be nothing to surprise if they want to save some costs by not giving the post-monthly bonus to Stake.com users.
legendary
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Yeah we can speculate anything but we have to wait until the anniversary, as users who do nothing of course we do not expect more but for those who have prepared themselves definitely expect something. I personally believe Stake will provide something because of the special month, it would be weird if on a normal day they gave us pre/post monthly whereas on special days not. Recently I heard in some local group there will be post-monthly but don't know if the source is valid or not but if this is true then it is part of the welcoming celebration IMO. Who knows, the lost budget will be used for celebrations  Cheesy

I dont think it is about having prepared or not in order to expect but it is about the reality with the current situation (the changes) in Stake related to their bonuses.
If there were not many changes in their bonuses, I will expect to see nice bonuses like what they used to give in ther first few years.
By the way, the post monthly bonus is not coming yet while they have sent it to the Stake.us more than 24hours ago.
I'm not sure why stake do not send it globally to all users at the same time.
legendary
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It's not the theory, wagering, money or bonus but the service policy they are provided. There is no information you can lose it with some condition (like not active or wagger).

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I face some problems a long time ago, contacting (Suppor Live Agent) on the site they ask me to refer to my VIP-host. In-some case VIP Host have more advantage support rather than support on site.
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However, so there is a new rule to keep the VIP host by wagering?
The unwritten rule, there is no information on "VIP-Zone" and others but you can lose it.
legendary
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The points are not only from a money perspective, but the service they provided gets change too. He does not speak about only the bonus, but also the service they're offering to the player (If you check on the VIP zone) there is no single word or information about you can lose the VIP. They not only change the term from bonus but also the service they provided while we already got that by grinding. I know the term & conditions is always can change (that's sucks) but at least the change should happen at least for the new player, long time ago VIP is Platinum 1 and now IV (also now you can lose VIP-host because you're not wagered)? at least they give that information on the information table in VIP-zone.

Frankly speaking I was one of those who lose VIP host because of the updated terms. I got my VIP host when I reached Platinum 1 few years back but I had to lose it due to the change of the requirement. I did not complain it because I did not really get the "extra" benefits of having VIP host at that time. It was just like a better live customer support, maybe because I had it for short period of time only so I could not really feel the benefits of having VIP host. However, so there is a new rule to keep the VIP host by wagering?
hero member
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The points are not only from a money perspective, but the service they provided gets change too. He does not speak about only the bonus, but also the service they're offering to the player (If you check on the VIP zone) there is no single word or information about you can lose the VIP. They not only change the term from bonus but also the service they provided while we already got that by grinding. I know the term & conditions is always can change (that's sucks) but at least the change should happen at least for the new player, long time ago VIP is Platinum 1 and now IV (also now you can lose VIP-host because you're not wagered)? at least they give that information on the information table in VIP-zone.

Finally some wise words I am reading about this topic. What you wrote is 100% on point.
What else they could do is announce changes, whatever they are, not just make them and let the players find out about it later. Normally if you change the terms players should be informed and need to accept the new ones. Not just change it and then say "but it's written in the terms". People, if only, read the terms when they register, not every week.
Changing them behind closed doors is a little bit without any info is a bit off. Other sites inform you when they do something like that, stake does not.
legendary
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The points are not only from a money perspective, but the service they provided gets change too. He does not speak about only the bonus, but also the service they're offering to the player (If you check on the VIP zone) there is no single word or information about you can lose the VIP. They not only change the term from bonus but also the service they provided while we already got that by grinding. I know the term & conditions is always can change (that's sucks) but at least the change should happen at least for the new player, long time ago VIP is Platinum 1 and now IV (also now you can lose VIP-host because you're not wagered)? at least they give that information on the information table in VIP-zone.

There should be no reason for you to lose it, if you take a portion of that and you wager it. I am taking my full bonus and I am wagering that and also some of my own money to reach the next VIP level.

So in theory.... if you reach a high enough level, you can wager say 50% of the bonus and then use 50% as a weekly and a monthly reward for yourself as passive income. (Most people do not have the discipline to do that... they just gamble the whole amount)

I calculated.... that if I just use the weekly & monthly bonuses, then I can level up to the next level in 3 years.... but if I bump it with my own money.. then I can do it in 1 year 6 months.  Wink
legendary
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The points are not only from a money perspective, but the service they provided gets change too. He does not speak about only the bonus, but also the service they're offering to the player (If you check on the VIP zone) there is no single word or information about you can lose the VIP. They not only change the term from bonus but also the service they provided while we already got that by grinding. I know the term & conditions is always can change (that's sucks) but at least the change should happen at least for the new player, long time ago VIP is Platinum 1 and now IV (also now you can lose VIP-host because you're not wagered)? at least they give that information on the information table in VIP-zone.
legendary
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Unfortunately that's only half the truth. The increased rewards for the VIP level are only on paper now, but not in reality.

I know that you can't expect the casino to pay you forever. But a weekly of 0.08$ or less for inactive accounts that maybe lost 50k and more lifetime is a bit harsh. Worst this is the promise of the VIP hosts.
The reloads that come with a host were promised to be permanent. Several people pointed that out here. I also saw that writing on the stake site.

With my first stake account I got my host at platinum 1, till had it at platinum 2 but then got limited and abandoned this account. 2 months later the VIP host, the reloads, the VIP group bonus, it all was gone and he told me if I wager around 50k again I might get him back. Later when I messaged him and saif if this is still on, he said, nah you have to wait until platinum 3 (now platinum 4) to get these benefits again. So what he said first, I can get him back, was also a lie.

That's how they treat their customers, telling stories to make you wager, and when it comes to pay up, suddenly eveything has changed.
I do not think that's harsh, first of all people who lost that much got more while they lost it, secondly if they already got what they deserved for what they did "once upon a time" why would they keep getting money from them?

I mean you got it right, it is not okay to ask for them to pay you forever that never makes sense and if you think that people weren't fairly compensated then maybe we can discuss what they could have gotten when they wagered 50k, that would make sense because if you want more while you are losing that I can understand. But they shouldn't ask for more after they stopped playing. Why would stake keep paying to an inactive account that hasn't gambled, that makes no sense to me at all, they should keep it at zero if you ask me.
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legendary
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Last year, but this year?

I guess not, even on a normal day without any important things people think receive less. I must agree on @Panjull don't hoping to much in these years because we all know a change happening.

I think is not gonna get any bonus at all.

Yeah we can speculate anything but we have to wait until the anniversary, as users who do nothing of course we do not expect more but for those who have prepared themselves definitely expect something. I personally believe Stake will provide something because of the special month, it would be weird if on a normal day they gave us pre/post monthly whereas on special days not. Recently I heard in some local group there will be post-monthly but don't know if the source is valid or not but if this is true then it is part of the welcoming celebration IMO. Who knows, the lost budget will be used for celebrations  Cheesy
legendary
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Last year, but this year?

I guess not, even on a normal day without any important things people think receive less. I must agree on @Panjull don't hoping to much in these years because we all know a change happening.

I think is not gonna get any bonus at all.
legendary
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~ 2 months later the VIP host, the reloads, the VIP group bonus, it all was gone and he told me if I wager around 50k again I might get him back. ~
This isn't a new issue at Stake. It was pointed out by a different user in the Bitcointalk forum on the October month of 2021. His VIP host benefits had been taken away in the same way like yours (see here). We (some forum members) were talking about that, and Stunna tried to clarify the situation here

We're working on scaling our VIP host support. In an ideal world every player would get a VIP host regardless of how much they were wagering. It takes time to train someone up to a point where they can manage high value players effectively. Reality is we've 10x'd our player count the past year while being unable to scale staff headcount to deal with that but we are slowly catching up. There's no excuse for disappointing our players especially Platinum VIP's, we'll keep working hard and try and improve.
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