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legendary
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Crash is the most bastard of all games as it can devastate you in a very short amount of time, it is even worse than slot machines which eat your entire balance but the difference is that in crash people expect the multiplier to go high while it crashes in below 20x multiplier in 99.50% of all times and of course a much risky business which can even crash at 1.00x so not a recommended game at all. I would prefer thousand times slot machines compared to this although I know many persons use it to increase their rank and wagers, it works well in this context if you set an auto cash out at 1.35x multiplier.
I feel the opposite. I tend to win way more often with crash chasing realistic multipliers like 1.5x when compared to slots which gobbles up my funds like nothing with each spin. It all comes down to luck at the end of the day.

If you are lucky, any game seems like the best game in the world while you will feel the opposite way if luck doesn't favor you.

Yes, Crash games are not only entertaining but also it test your nerves to stop and not keep on going seeing the profits rising  Wink I usually enjoy playing crash games more than slots or other gambling games. As far as the concern as how often do we win or lose, well as a gambler i least think of it because i know i cannot control my gambling results but one thing i make sure that i manage the risk and hence i know even the loss won't have much effect on my portfolio.

Honestly I don't understand how you guys can keep your nerves in touch when the crash game hit a crash on 1.00x or 1.01 or 1.02x or 1.05x multipliers which make me right away want to quit from this game. I am not that patient of a person and as such only slots can feed my appetite for big wins in short amount of time. In crash it is funny to me as every time I become ready to start playing the ongoing round is always an over x100 or even over x500 multiplier being hit by someone there and as soon as I start playing and join the party everything keep crashing at maximum of 5.xx multipliers and this makes me sick, crazy sickI would say as I have been playing sometimes for more than 2 hours and rarely I have managed to hit an over x10 multiplier which is not good enough. I know though people use crash a lot to increase their wager with the target of 1.35x as multiplier and betting a good amount of money.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Crash is the most bastard of all games as it can devastate you in a very short amount of time, it is even worse than slot machines which eat your entire balance but the difference is that in crash people expect the multiplier to go high while it crashes in below 20x multiplier in 99.50% of all times and of course a much risky business which can even crash at 1.00x so not a recommended game at all. I would prefer thousand times slot machines compared to this although I know many persons use it to increase their rank and wagers, it works well in this context if you set an auto cash out at 1.35x multiplier.
I feel the opposite. I tend to win way more often with crash chasing realistic multipliers like 1.5x when compared to slots which gobbles up my funds like nothing with each spin. It all comes down to luck at the end of the day.

If you are lucky, any game seems like the best game in the world while you will feel the opposite way if luck doesn't favor you.

Yes, Crash games are not only entertaining but also it test your nerves to stop and not keep on going seeing the profits rising  Wink I usually enjoy playing crash games more than slots or other gambling games. As far as the concern as how often do we win or lose, well as a gambler i least think of it because i know i cannot control my gambling results but one thing i make sure that i manage the risk and hence i know even the loss won't have much effect on my portfolio.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 1247
Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013
Not gonna lie lol I'm expecting to receive pre-monthly or monthly bonus since today is New Year! I think we received a monthly bonus last New Year, right?

Anyway, in 2023 stake.com gross profit is almost 2.6 billion dollars now how much do you think Stake.com earned in 2024? Did it increase or decrease, what do you think?

I am pretty sure it has increased dramatically as in the year 2023 compared to 2024 a whole lot more people won some max win from different slots, when it comes to 2024 I have extremely rarely seen max wins as I was playing every day there until late October early November when I decided to quit definitely because I never won anything in 2024. Since very few max wins were hit in 2024 compared to 2023 I assume that the gross profit to be much more compared to 2023 and I don't know if some monthly was given or not as I don't have access to my email because I only keep it in my desktop which is offline for some days, so I am only at laptop though not seen anything going in chat about any monthly, so most probably no, no one has received a monthly yet.
sr. member
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Not gonna lie lol I'm expecting to receive pre-monthly or monthly bonus since today is New Year! I think we received a monthly bonus last New Year, right?

Anyway, in 2023 stake.com gross profit is almost 2.6 billion dollars now how much do you think Stake.com earned in 2024? Did it increase or decrease, what do you think?
hero member
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Crash is the most bastard of all games as it can devastate you in a very short amount of time, it is even worse than slot machines which eat your entire balance but the difference is that in crash people expect the multiplier to go high while it crashes in below 20x multiplier in 99.50% of all times and of course a much risky business which can even crash at 1.00x so not a recommended game at all. I would prefer thousand times slot machines compared to this although I know many persons use it to increase their rank and wagers, it works well in this context if you set an auto cash out at 1.35x multiplier.
I feel the opposite. I tend to win way more often with crash chasing realistic multipliers like 1.5x when compared to slots which gobbles up my funds like nothing with each spin. It all comes down to luck at the end of the day.

If you are lucky, any game seems like the best game in the world while you will feel the opposite way if luck doesn't favor you.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1026
In Search of Incredible
By the way, do you think we will get something in early January like a post monthly bonus? I checked last year's email but did not find information about this but somehow I felt we will get something.
I'm not expecting anything from them in the first ten days of this month. And I think we will get the monthly bonus on the 3rd week of this month. They have already given us enough in the December month. We had received a pre-monthly bonus on the 1st day of 2024, which was for Stake F1 team announcement. Stake doesn't have any major announcements in this month which could bring extra bonuses for us.
newbie
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🚨 DAY 6: STAKE.COM REFUSES TO PROVIDE DATA ACCESS TO KYC3 VERIFIED CUSTOMER

As a KYC3 verified customer, I am still waiting for my complete betting data from Stake.com. I will make this post on this thread until they comply with my legal right to data access.

Timeline of Events:

  • 3 months of ongoing data requests
  • Multiple support tickets opened
  • Continuous transfer between departments
  • No resolution despite KYC3 verification

Current Status:

  • Support claims request is "in progress"
  • No timeline provided for data access
  • Different departments deflecting responsibility
  • Basic player rights being ignored

Why This Matters:

  • As a KYC3 customers, I have already provided maximum verification
  • Legal right to access personal data being denied
  • Transparency issues raise serious concerns
  • Pattern of data access obstruction

For detailed statistical analysis of why this data access is crucial, see: Exposing Stake.com’s Rigged Games: The Truth Behind Their “Provably Fair”


Key Violations:
    Exceeded 90 Days:
    • GDPR mandates that all data access requests be fulfilled within 30 days (extendable to a maximum of 90 days). Stake has violated this timeline without providing valid reasons.
    Failure to Notify:
    • No updates or reasons for delay have been communicated in accordance with GDPR Article 12.
    Deflection & Obstruction:
    • Continuous transfer between departments and vague "in-progress" claims reflect an intent to obstruct rather than resolve.
    Questions for Stake.com:

    • Why has it taken over 90 days to comply with my legal data access request?
    • What is the justification for ignoring GDPR requirements despite demanding KYC3 verification?
    • When will you provide the legally required data?
    • When will you comply with data access rights?

    This issue highlights systemic transparency and accountability problems at Stake.com, reinforcing concerns about their overall integrity.


    This post will be made daily until Stake.com provides the legally required data access. Other users experiencing similar issues are encouraged to share their experiences.

    #DataAccessDenied #StakeTransparency #PlayerRights #Day[6]





    Happy New Year to all players and gambling truth-seekers!

    While most are celebrating, Stake.com continues to operate a house of cards—a fraudulent empire built on lies and rigged games, ready to collapse under the weight of truth. Let’s shake this crooked facade to its very foundation.

    Stake Originals: A Crumbling Façade

    Stake aggressively promotes its “Stake Originals,” games they fully control. Why? Because these games are their playground of deception, where RTP, house edge, and outcomes are manipulated at will.

    The Evidence Speaks for Itself:

    Player 1 (@BlackJacky):

    Total Bets: 180,904
    Wins: 78,285
    Losses: 86,612
    Net Loss: 8,327 bets
    Deviation Beyond Max: 9.3x higher than statistically possible.

    Player 2 (KingBJ):

    Total Bets: 119,156
    Expected Loss (0.5%): $7,392
    Actual Loss: $60,000
    Deviation Beyond Max: 24.66σ.

    These numbers don’t just stretch the truth—they annihilate it. Even in gambling, randomness has rules, and Stake.com blatantly violates them to rob its players blind.

    AHOYBRAUSE: The Jester of Lies

    This delusional Stake puppet had the audacity to claim a 0.5% house edge means a 99.5% chance of winning. 🤡 Do you even understand what you're saying? Your math is as shaky as Stake’s fraudulent foundation.

    You’ve failed to provide any credible defense, instead hiding behind petty insults and childish banter. How much does Eddie pay you to peddle this nonsense? Here’s a tip: Instead of trolling forums, sign up for a statistics course. You’re embarrassing yourself.

    HolyDarkness: Another Piece of the Farce

    Joining AHOYBRAUSE is HolyDarkness, symphonizing Stake’s lies as if we’re all too stupid to notice. Guess what? Your fake confidence and hollow arguments are as transparent as the rigged blackjack games you defend.

    Eddie and Stake.com: The Cracks Are Showing

    Stake’s CEO, Eddie, admitted in chats that RTP can be modified without notifying players. Translation:

    Your chances of winning are whatever Stake wants them to be.

    The advertised RTP is a smokescreen—they pull the strings behind the curtain.

    Big players are targeted for higher losses during recovery bets.

    Stake’s empire of deceit is crumbling. Their manipulation is no longer a secret, and their failure to comply with GDPR requests further exposes their shady practices.

    Your House Is Shaking, Eddie

    Eddie and Stake, your carefully crafted facade is cracking under the weight of truth. The players are waking up, and your days of deception are numbered.

    AHOYBRAUSE and HolyDarkness, you’re nothing but court jesters in Eddie’s crumbling castle. Your hollow arguments are as weak as the house of cards you represent.

    Call to Action

    Players, it’s time to fight back against this fraud:

    Demand transparency: Force Stake to release unaltered betting data for public scrutiny.

    Report Stake: File complaints with gambling regulators, particularly the Curacao Gaming Control Board.

    Expose the truth: Share your experiences, evidence, and this post far and wide.

    Final Blow:

    AHOYBRAUSE, HolyDarkness, and Stake.com—your facade is shaking, your foundation is cracking, and the truth is roaring through the cracks. 2025 will be the year we bring down this house of lies.

    Happy New Year to all truth-seekers. To Stake.com and its puppets: Your time is up. The storm is coming. 🌪️
    legendary
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    What makes me surprise is today weekly bonus, since I did not even earn 1 raffle ticket this week but I got $27 for the weekly bonus.
    I have experienced the same thing in the past. What about your weekly and fortnightly PnL statistics. I think it happens for the wager which we make between 12:30 PM to 14:00 PM (GMT) of the weekly bonus day. Because the bonus is sent at 12:30 PM (GMT), and the raffle draw time ends at 14:00 PM (GMT). So, the wager is considered for the next weekly bonus which you make between that time.

    Forgot to check the statistic before weekly bonus, but if it is based on my current statistic then my PnL is -95 for weekly and +175 for fortnightly.
    Just remembered that I made a deposit on 27th, a day before the weekly bonus, my deposit was exactly the same amount as my current weekly PnL stats.
    So perhaps I got $27 weekly because I lost my deposit on 27th but I lost it quickly without earning 1 raffle ticket.
    It proves that negative PnL gives bigger effect on bonuses than wager because I believe we all have experienced to get less bonus while we wager more but we are on profit.
    newbie
    Activity: 119
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    @Symphonized, while you enthusiastically promote Stake.com’s Scarab Spin Slots and flashy multipliers, let’s address the elephant in the room: Stake.com’s blatant refusal to comply with GDPR regulations and fulfill its legal obligations to KYC3-verified customers.

    My Case: 90+ Days of Obstruction
    As a KYC3-verified customer, I’ve been waiting for over 90 days for access to my betting data—a right protected under GDPR. Stake.com has ignored this legal requirement and instead subjected me to:

    • Endless deflections between departments.
    • Excuses and vague “in-progress” updates.
    • Complete disregard for the 30-day GDPR deadline, now exceeded threefold.

    This post will be updated daily until Stake.com fulfills my legal right to data access. It’s time to expose the truth behind the glitzy facade.

    Stake Originals are a prime example of deceptive marketing paired with rigged outcomes. Despite claims of "provably fair" systems, the data paints a clear picture: these games are systematically manipulated to exploit players and maximize profits.

    Stay vigilant. Demand transparency. The truth about Stake.com must come to light.

    #Day5 #DataAccessDenied #RiggedGames #PlayerRights

    member
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    legendary
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    When you set an ambitious target multi on Crash 📈

    https://x.com/Stake/status/1873338929656840266

    Someone hit an 611.000.xx multiplier meaning well over x600000 which is the highest that I have seen on crash after seeing some people hit that x1000000 multiplier on Limbo. Crash is the most bastard of all games as it can devastate you in a very short amount of time, it is even worse than slot machines which eat your entire balance but the difference is that in crash people expect the multiplier to go high while it crashes in below 20x multiplier in 99.50% of all times and of course a much risky business which can even crash at 1.00x so not a recommended game at all. I would prefer thousand times slot machines compared to this although I know many persons use it to increase their rank and wagers, it works well in this context if you set an auto cash out at 1.35x multiplier.
    member
    Activity: 2464
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    Primedice.com & Stake.com
    newbie
    Activity: 119
    Merit: 0
    At times it's expedient that we exercise patience when we encounter certain technical challenge with the casino we using, except we've an ulterior motive, probably such difficulty we might be facing could be coming from our own end but we care not to know.

    Stake doesn’t face "technical challenges"; they face legal challenges because they’re a Criminal Operation. Stop trying to gaslight players by pretending this is about patience or technical errors.

    Your casual dismissal of reports from players like me ignores the fact that Stake has repeatedly violated GDPR laws, mishandled data, and evaded accountability. If Stake is as trustworthy as you claim, why is there overwhelming evidence on Reddit, their forums, and scam accusation threads? Why are they hiding behind shady companies like MeBit to handle customer operations?

    Stake doesn’t deserve patience—it deserves to be shut down, and anyone defending them deserves the full weight of the law for promoting a criminal enterprise.

    Evidence of the condition of gamblers who are not ready to lose, their first reaction will blame the cheating casino. I used to think so too, the mental condition of not being ready when facing defeat makes our minds vent our annoyance, disgust, and anger as if we were being cheated. In fact it comes from ourselves who are always dissatisfied and then bet more to chase the defeat.

    You’re either delusional or deliberately misleading people. Stake’s rigging isn’t a "mental condition" or "gambler’s frustration"—it’s backed by statistical evidence and Stake’s refusal to provide data. Their deliberate violation of GDPR laws and obstruction of transparency prove their guilt.

    If you’re so sure this is all in the gambler's head, explain why Stake won’t release betting data. What honest company hides behind excuses when faced with legal data requests? Stake is evading accountability because they know the truth would expose their criminal operation.

    Defending Stake doesn’t just make you a fool—it makes you complicit in enabling their fraud.


    Your idea of concluding rigged games based on your bad game result is useless unless you have a huge sample or many players complained the same issue as yours.

    How often do we see that gamblers just accuses the casino only because the results are not in their favor. This changes nothing as it is the gambler's luck and nothing to do with the rigged games. Nor such a person can damage the reputation of the trusted casino where a lot of gamblers are satisfied and playing.
    Like an abyss it's a pity that the casino gets to be thrown all the blames even in an unlucky situation of the gambler with the outcome of his games. Funny enough such tantrums doesn't hold water going by the long standing reputation of the very casino in question, because it's glaring how baseless it is that out of a hundreds of users why always same users coming up with multiple complains. It just doesn't make sense .
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    Your blind defense of Stake shows either willful ignorance or intentional complicity. Stake is a criminal organization hiding behind "provably fair" buzzwords while rigging games, violating GDPR, and evading accountability. If Stake’s games are fair, why are they refusing to provide betting data to a verified customer? What are they hiding?

    Stop parroting nonsense about "luck" and "bad results." This is not about emotions—this is about systematic fraud. Players like me have provided detailed statistical evidence and demanded transparency, but instead of answers, Stake relies on shills like you to gaslight and derail conversations.

    Promoting Stake in the face of undeniable evidence of fraud makes you complicit in their criminal activities. The law will catch up to them—and maybe to you as well if you continue promoting this scam.

    Message to All Stake Shills
    Promoting Stake in the face of overwhelming evidence isn’t just wrong—it’s criminal. Stake has been caught rigging games, violating GDPR laws, and obstructing data access. The only thing you’re doing is exposing yourself as a willing participant in their scam.

    If Stake has nothing to hide, let them release the data. Until then, every word you speak defending them is another mark against your credibility. Keep pushing their agenda, and you’ll find yourself dragged into the same legal scrutiny they’re facing. Ignorance won’t save you when the law comes knocking.
    newbie
    Activity: 119
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    🚨 DAY5: STAKE.COM REFUSES TO PROVIDE DATA ACCESS TO KYC3 VERIFIED CUSTOMER

    As a KYC3 verified customer, I am still waiting for my complete betting data from Stake.com. I will make this post on this thread until they comply with my legal right to data access.

    Timeline of Events:

    • 3 months of ongoing data requests
    • Multiple support tickets opened
    • Continuous transfer between departments
    • No resolution despite KYC3 verification

    Current Status:

    • Support claims request is "in progress"
    • No timeline provided for data access
    • Different departments deflecting responsibility
    • Basic player rights being ignored

    Why This Matters:

    • As a KYC3 customers, I have already provided maximum verification
    • Legal right to access personal data being denied
    • Transparency issues raise serious concerns
    • Pattern of data access obstruction

    For detailed statistical analysis of why this data access is crucial, see: Statistical Evidence of Manipulation


    Key Violations:
      Exceeded 90 Days:
      • GDPR mandates that all data access requests be fulfilled within 30 days (extendable to a maximum of 90 days). Stake has violated this timeline without providing valid reasons.
      Failure to Notify:
      • No updates or reasons for delay have been communicated in accordance with GDPR Article 12.
      Deflection & Obstruction:
      • Continuous transfer between departments and vague "in-progress" claims reflect an intent to obstruct rather than resolve.
      Questions for Stake.com:

      • Why has it taken over 90 days to comply with my legal data access request?
      • What is the justification for ignoring GDPR requirements despite demanding KYC3 verification?
      • When will you provide the legally required data?
      • When will you comply with data access rights?

      This issue highlights systemic transparency and accountability problems at Stake.com, reinforcing concerns about their overall integrity.


      This post will be made daily until Stake.com provides the legally required data access. Other users experiencing similar issues are encouraged to share their experiences.

      #DataAccessDenied #StakeTransparency #PlayerRights #Day[5]
      legendary
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      Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
      I have experienced the same thing in the past. What about your weekly and fortnightly PnL statistics. I think it happens for the wager which we make between 12:30 PM to 14:00 PM (GMT) of the weekly bonus day. Because the bonus is sent at 12:30 PM (GMT), and the raffle draw time ends at 14:00 PM (GMT). So, the wager is considered for the next weekly bonus which you make between that time.

      Yeah there are several reasons they get more bonuses even though they are not active in the last weeks, my friend also said the same thing when he got a bonus offer for a deposit well he's only active in a week but he can claim a decent bonus for at least 3-4 weeks and the bonus continues to be lower every week and reach the lowest bonus. So basically wager in a week can have an impact on the next weekly bonus up to a month, one example is as you explained which has an impact on 2nd week.

      By the way, do you think we will get something in early January like a post monthly bonus? I checked last year's email but did not find information about this but somehow I felt we will get something.
      legendary
      Activity: 1946
      Merit: 1026
      In Search of Incredible
      Last weeks, my weekly claim around 20$ and the 2nd monthly was less than 20$. You want to know the number ? yes the number is 10$.
      $10 is quite low for an active platinum VIP rank user. Looks like you aren't wagering much at Stake in the recent months. I had received around $25 from the 2nd monthly bonus.

      What makes me surprise is today weekly bonus, since I did not even earn 1 raffle ticket this week but I got $27 for the weekly bonus.
      I have experienced the same thing in the past. What about your weekly and fortnightly PnL statistics. I think it happens for the wager which we make between 12:30 PM to 14:00 PM (GMT) of the weekly bonus day. Because the bonus is sent at 12:30 PM (GMT), and the raffle draw time ends at 14:00 PM (GMT). So, the wager is considered for the next weekly bonus which you make between that time.
      hero member
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      Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
      Other users experiencing similar issues are encouraged to share their experiences.

      So no one share any issues, mean you are the only one affected. Better see if the mistake is on your part and not at the casino end.
      At times it's expedient that we exercise patience when we encounter certain technical challenge with the casino we using, except we've an ulterior motive, probably such difficulty we might be facing could be coming from our own end but we care not to know.

      Your idea of concluding rigged games based on your bad game result is useless unless you have a huge sample or many players complained the same issue as yours.

      How often do we see that gamblers just accuses the casino only because the results are not in their favor. This changes nothing as it is the gambler's luck and nothing to do with the rigged games. Nor such a person can damage the reputation of the trusted casino where a lot of gamblers are satisfied and playing.
      Like an abyss it's a pity that the casino gets to be thrown all the blames even in an unlucky situation of the gambler with the outcome of his games. Funny enough such tantrums doesn't hold water going by the long standing reputation of the very casino in question, because it's glaring how baseless it is that out of a hundreds of users why always same users coming up with multiple complains. It just doesn't make sense .
      hero member
      Activity: 2198
      Merit: 607
      Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
      Your idea of concluding rigged games based on your bad game result is useless unless you have a huge sample or many players complained the same issue as yours.

      How often do we see that gamblers just accuses the casino only because the results are not in their favor. This changes nothing as it is the gambler's luck and nothing to do with the rigged games. Nor such a person can damage the reputation of the trusted casino where a lot of gamblers are satisfied and playing.
      Evidence of the condition of gamblers who are not ready to lose, their first reaction will blame the cheating casino. I used to think so too, the mental condition of not being ready when facing defeat makes our minds vent our annoyance, disgust, and anger as if we were being cheated. In fact it comes from ourselves who are always dissatisfied and then bet more to chase the defeat.
      legendary
      Activity: 2688
      Merit: 1262
      Stake.com always has a mystery in bonus calculations and that is the best way to avoid complaints Grin
      But still, I like it hahaha.

      Systems like Rollbits, Roobets, or Duelbits we already know the number we are gonna receive. However, system like these make us feel lucky or kinda happy while the estimation is more than we are predicted.



      BTW, thanks for the info birthday bonus.
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