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Quote from: CryptoBuds on August 02, 2021, 08:11:42 PM

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The curse of gambling can catch the addicted people easily and there are ongoing live streams, promotions, deposit bonuses, free money offers to bring back the new users to gambling platforms and feed their addiction if they ever fall into this trap once. Promising and promoting big wins and offering huge bonuses with big turnover requirements can trigger addiction so they can keep depositing until bust or reaching the desired level of satisfaction.

Actually, the thing is not just happening like how you explain, it's true that people are getting addicted to gambling very easily but this is totally his/her own responsibility. Casinos don't encourage their users to become addicted, they just offering huge bonuses to bring back their loyal players only. they don't have the intention to make them addicted at all. Those who are addicted to gambling will be addicted by nature/characteristic, they also bet in real life in every case. So, you can't prevent them by giving fewer deposit bonuses or limited free money offer.

I have met with too many people to think the same way as you guys because I have seen people who are much better at holding themselves. However I understand it, yes it is really hard to hold yourself, back in the day I have lost a lot of money in gambling, not a lot in fiat but a lot in crypto because I am an early investor, however those huge losses (that turned into gigantic losses when bitcoin went up) became a lesson for me, so I am not without fault neither, I lost a lot of money before I became this way, I did became addicted at one time, but now I am doing a lot better and I know how to control myself.

It is all about building a system and after you have built a system then you are not going to be changing that too quickly. It is all about getting used to playing one way and not changing that just because something unexpected happened, good or bad.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 04, 2021, 03:02:59 AM

Does the third party provider really matter? I am not an insider in the gambling industry, so I do not know how this work.. but from my research I have done, it seems as though the RTP for these games are negotiated between the casino and the third party Slot provider and that it can be altered at any time? (It is not a fixed RTP) <=== Feel free to correct me, if I am wrong about this.

Also, your Client / Server Seed determine the outcome of each bet and every bet is unique... so you cannot say that there are some "Big Brother" or "Algorithm" that are monitoring your play and then determine when you have to receive a big win. Roll Eyes

Each Slot is also different .... because the RTP is configured for individual games and not for all games under one Service provider. Most of these games offer around 96% RTP, which is the industry average.

Atlantis also have "medium variance" so the volatility is toned down a little .... making it a more pleasurable experience. Wink

I believe it is basically just a marketing type of deal, it is literally just about what type of games they would like to play and that's it. So, if you are playing a game somewhere else under the X game platform then you would also like to see it here as well, and in other places. The difference is that we see casinos at the top managing these, so in here it is stake that controls stuff and if you have a problem then stake will help you and that is what really matters, and if you like X games and then you like Stake, you would be happy to see them together at the same time.

If you like stake but hate X then it wouldn't matter to you, if you feel nothing for X games but like Stake then you would care that Stake is doing something but that's about it. So, there are many type of people that will react in many different ways, there is no worry about that. Yours is quite normal too.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 04, 2021, 11:28:25 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on August 04, 2021, 03:02:59 AM

Also, your Client / Server Seed determine the outcome of each bet and every bet is unique... so you cannot say that there are some "Big Brother" or "Algorithm" that are monitoring your play and then determine when you have to receive a big win. Roll Eyes

Which game from which provider are you precisely talking about Kakmakr please? Because most of third party games I know don't use any client or server seed... So I'm really interested in your finding. Which game it is please?

He is probably talking about some in-house slots, not about third-party slots! I don't think it's possible to verify the third-party slot's fairness! With in-house games, it's different, with server seed, client seed, and nonce you can verify every bet!
There is that RTP (low, medium, high, extreme volatility), but I don't think it's relevant! Just my experience! When you have so many spins behind on so many slots, you find out that you are either lucky or unlucky when you play slots! And I tried many of them, in practice low volatility doesn't mean you will win more (+20 dead spins is like something normal on any slot), and extreme volatility doesn't mean you will lose more (with a bit of luck you can hit the bonus round after few spins)...

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 03, 2021, 03:50:57 PM

I wanted to place a bet on next UFC main event Lewis vs Gane but it appears that Stake removed double winning bonus they had so far for main and co-main events, and I hope it's just temporary.
There is only money back if my selection loses by split decision, and other bonus is removed from Stake promotion page.
@Symphonized do you have more information about this?

This is probably just temporary since the co main was cancelled for the Nunes vs Pena fight.
https://www.mmamania.com/2021/7/29/22600290/covid-cancels-amanda-nunes-vs-julianna-pena-title-fight-ufc-265-mma
They should still have the chance for double winnings for the remaining main card.
I think Jose Aldo was put in it's place while I was checking the site earlier today and the UFC 265 bouts still going forward.

note: This bout was put in it's place instead as the co-main event for UFC 265
https://www.mmamania.com/2021/7/29/22600900/jose-aldo-pedro-munhoz-ufc-265-co-main-event-espn-amanda-nunes

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 04, 2021, 03:02:59 AM

Also, your Client / Server Seed determine the outcome of each bet and every bet is unique... so you cannot say that there are some "Big Brother" or "Algorithm" that are monitoring your play and then determine when you have to receive a big win. Roll Eyes

Which game from which provider are you precisely talking about Kakmakr please? Because most of third party games I know don't use any client or server seed... So I'm really interested in your finding. Which game it is please?

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 03, 2021, 03:50:57 PM

I wanted to place a bet on next UFC main event Lewis vs Gane but it appears that Stake removed double winning bonus they had so far for main and co-main events, and I hope it's just temporary.
There is only money back if my selection loses by split decision, and other bonus is removed from Stake promotion page.
@Symphonized do you have more information about this?

Don't worry, we will have a promotion other then split decision one for the UFC 265

Keep an eye on socials or promotion page on stake.com

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 03, 2021, 01:50:59 PM

Quote from: Kakmakr on August 03, 2021, 12:57:06 PM

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Nothing suprise ~XD

Relax Gaming & Ygradasil is one of the providers who has a good payout but is also really unpredictable, until now can't really estimate average hit scatter comparing Play N Go & Pragmatic. BTW, how much your bankrol? IMO minimum bankroll for 0.4$ maybe more than 250$ while more than 200-300 spin can't hit anything try to move on other game. That's just one of my rules experience playing slot. Grin

Does the third party provider really matter? I am not an insider in the gambling industry, so I do not know how this work.. but from my research I have done, it seems as though the RTP for these games are negotiated between the casino and the third party Slot provider and that it can be altered at any time? (It is not a fixed RTP) <=== Feel free to correct me, if I am wrong about this.

Also, your Client / Server Seed determine the outcome of each bet and every bet is unique... so you cannot say that there are some "Big Brother" or "Algorithm" that are monitoring your play and then determine when you have to receive a big win. Roll Eyes

Each Slot is also different .... because the RTP is configured for individual games and not for all games under one Service provider. Most of these games offer around 96% RTP, which is the industry average.

Atlantis also have "medium variance" so the volatility is toned down a little .... making it a more pleasurable experience. Wink

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I wanted to place a bet on next UFC main event Lewis vs Gane but it appears that Stake removed double winning bonus they had so far for main and co-main events, and I hope it's just temporary.
There is only money back if my selection loses by split decision, and other bonus is removed from Stake promotion page.
@Symphonized do you have more information about this?

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 03, 2021, 12:57:06 PM

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Nothing suprise ~XD

Relax Gaming & Ygradasil is one of the providers who has a good payout but is also really unpredictable, until now can't really estimate average hit scatter comparing Play N Go & Pragmatic. BTW, how much your bankrol? IMO minimum bankroll for 0.4$ maybe more than 250$ while more than 200-300 spin can't hit anything try to move on other game. That's just one of my rules experience playing slot. Grin

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These two games are probably going to bankrupt me..... Why oh why..... did you have to add Atlantis Megaways, when I am already addicted to Atlantean Gigarise! Roll Eyes

It just sucks that the minimum bet on "Atlantis Megaways" is $0.40 and not $0.20 like on "Atlantean Gigarise".... because it is highly addictive and it can turn into a budget killer ...if you degen on it, like I do!!

Oh well.... when the budget is gone, both Stake and I loose ..because they need us to wager for them to profit.. right. Wink

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Quote from: perfect999 on August 02, 2021, 05:00:03 PM

I do not think that it is to attract addicted people to gambling but more about how if you start gambling once and have fun, you remember how fun it was and keep gambling some more, even if you are not addicted. I am not addicted to gambling at all, there are periods in my life when I go months without gambling (unfortunately not anytime soon) but what happens is that I end up gambling for free just a bit, then deposit a bit, gamble with that too and then stop again, which obviously means I am not addicted since I can stop that easily, but I do not remember a single time when I used free bet but then never invested any money at all into gambling some more on top of that before I stopped.

Of course, everyone has a different kind of understanding, mental capacity, money management in both personal life and gambling.
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You are just a rare gambler who knows his limits and control the urge not to lose more than you can afford.

agreed with @seleme, maybe you are a rare gambler and an exceptional one. No man becomes addicted overnight. At first, they play for fun, then the hobbyist plays, then when they see a good income, they fall into greed and gradually become addicted. This is what happens in most cases but some people have the ability to control their instincts like @perfect999.

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The curse of gambling can catch the addicted people easily and there are ongoing live streams, promotions, deposit bonuses, free money offers to bring back the new users to gambling platforms and feed their addiction if they ever fall into this trap once. Promising and promoting big wins and offering huge bonuses with big turnover requirements can trigger addiction so they can keep depositing until bust or reaching the desired level of satisfaction.

Actually, the thing is not just happening like how you explain, it's true that people are getting addicted to gambling very easily but this is totally his/her own responsibility. Casinos don't encourage their users to become addicted, they just offering huge bonuses to bring back their loyal players only. they don't have the intention to make them addicted at all. Those who are addicted to gambling will be addicted by nature/characteristic, they also bet in real life in every case. So, you can't prevent them by giving fewer deposit bonuses or limited free money offer.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on August 02, 2021, 03:31:39 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on August 02, 2021, 03:31:23 AM

Is there something big going on in Stake currently? I did a quick visit and shocked to see the number of online users which is more than 43k then it dropped significantly to 35k in less than 2 minutes. I have never seen such huge number before, even when there was a big event like the weekly stream and weekly raffle.

Most probably it was a DDOS attack on Stake server. The attackers created fake traffic on the site, as a result it showed a huge number of online users. Nowadays 5k-7k active user is a common thing at Stake. And it goes around 10k-12k level during weekly boost and other special bonus time. However, user activity has increased significantly at the site. Three months ago Stake.com global rank was above 9k. Now they are staying at 4.4k level.

This has happened as a result of legitimate service and through the different forms of contest that can never be seen on any other gambling site. Reaching a global rank around 4400 isn't an easy think compared to the millions of websites available for different purposes. Also this has been achieved in a very short time period through brand ambassadors who had does big role in making it popular.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 31, 2021, 11:44:48 PM

I do not think there is a requirement to get the reload or other bonuses like weekly/monthly bonus. I'm quite sure I wagered less than $1,000 in the last 30 days before the July's monthly bonus but I got the bonus. Afaik all existing account get the offer, but it does not mean that Stake is throwing away free money since the amount is just so small and not all those inactive accounts claim the reload. It is also part of marketing to make those inactive accounts come back by giving them few satoshi/cent from the reload.

That is a good point, the more you give away free money the more you can bring back addicted gamblers. Regarding the amount, I doubt it is above $10 for platinum accounts. My friend took a break for 2 months, his reloads were gone, and only got few bucks on weekly, less than $20 for monthly.

I do not think that it is to attract addicted people to gambling but more about how if you start gambling once and have fun, you remember how fun it was and keep gambling some more, even if you are not addicted. I am not addicted to gambling at all, there are periods in my life when I go months without gambling (unfortunately not anytime soon) but what happens is that I end up gambling for free just a bit, then deposit a bit, gamble with that too and then stop again, which obviously means I am not addicted since I can stop that easily, but I do not remember a single time when I used free bet but then never invested any money at all into gambling some more on top of that before I stopped.

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 02, 2021, 03:31:23 AM

Is there something big going on in Stake currently? I did a quick visit and shocked to see the number of online users which is more than 43k then it dropped significantly to 35k in less than 2 minutes. I have never seen such huge number before, even when there was a big event like the weekly stream and weekly raffle.

Most probably it was a DDOS attack on Stake server. The attackers created fake traffic on the site, as a result it showed a huge number of online users. Nowadays 5k-7k active user is a common thing at Stake. And it goes around 10k-12k level during weekly boost and other special bonus time. However, user activity has increased significantly at the site. Three months ago Stake.com global rank was above 9k. Now they are staying at 4.4k level.

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Quote from: onecall123 on August 01, 2021, 12:57:32 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on July 31, 2021, 11:44:48 PM

I do not think there is a requirement to get the reload or other bonuses like weekly/monthly bonus. I'm quite sure I wagered less than $1,000 in the last 30 days before the July's monthly bonus but I got the bonus. Afaik all existing account get the offer, but it does not mean that Stake is throwing away free money since the amount is just so small and not all those inactive accounts claim the reload. It is also part of marketing to make those inactive accounts come back by giving them few satoshi/cent from the reload.

It is not a big deal to throw away some dust money, but it has a positive marketing effect. You can get nice bonuses like weekly/monthly bonuses only if you are a regular user who wagered frequently. In general, other users' bonus allocations are limited; I generally receive between 2 and 3 cents. The rewards depend on the performance of the user. I think it's a great marketing strategy.

You may get 2-3 cents, I may get 5 cents, we all probably will get under 10 cents in normal wagering levels (don't know what people who wager millions get honestly) but at the end of the day stake does this for thousands upon thousands of people, they do it every month, and they already have a million dollar giveaway as well, you can win that by participating in the race itself so they are not doing that dust only they are doing many different things.

So yeah, I do believe that dusts get together and build something huge, not something like millions but definitely thousands of dollars combined and that is for just nothing, just as a "thank you" for the ones who gambled, that is a good thing.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on August 02, 2021, 06:27:37 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on August 02, 2021, 03:31:23 AM

Is there something big going on in Stake currently? I did a quick visit and shocked to see the number of online users which is more than 43k then it dropped significantly to 35k in less than 2 minutes. I have never seen such huge number before, even when there was a big event like the weekly stream and weekly raffle.

dropping 8k in 2 minutes ? is this some kind of a bug? because it is not usual to log out 8k players in a minute time.

though we know stake ha a thousands of players yet the decrease is really unbelievable .

There is no point looking at the dropping online user, it doesn't change the fact Stake still one of site has very huge daily online user. Most of site might be have that number in their weekly or even monthly stats while Stake have it in daily only. Personally i rarely seen a site has more than 10k active user in same time, even highest was around 1k people

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 02, 2021, 03:31:23 AM

Is there something big going on in Stake currently? I did a quick visit and shocked to see the number of online users which is more than 43k then it dropped significantly to 35k in less than 2 minutes. I have never seen such huge number before, even when there was a big event like the weekly stream and weekly raffle.

dropping 8k in 2 minutes ? is this some kind of a bug? because it is not usual to log out 8k players in a minute time.

though we know stake ha a thousands of players yet the decrease is really unbelievable .

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Quote from: Bitinity on August 02, 2021, 03:31:23 AM

Is there something big going on in Stake currently? I did a quick visit and shocked to see the number of online users which is more than 43k then it dropped significantly to 35k in less than 2 minutes. I have never seen such huge number before, even when there was a big event like the weekly stream and weekly raffle.

That's such a huge number of online users and right now it is 11560. That's still a lot of online users. It's probably that everyone was able to get a visit to stake and made that record within a few minutes.
I haven't seen this number even with the 3x drop within a minutes, that's still record high compared to those casinos that I've seen that's having the difficulty to reach a thousand active users at the same time.

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