Topic: Stand by Net Neutrality. Save the Internet in India. (Read 5482 times)
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Take Action: http://www.savetheinternet.in
Note: You may ignore this message as just another internet campaign. No Bad Luck will haunt you. But, if we can not save the Net Neutrality in India, there will be a day, when you will be answerable to your children for surrendering freedom to greedy corporates. Act Now.
Umm.. where was this voice when they started banning porn sites? When they starting banning sites like vidbull? When they started banning torrent sites?
How are any of those sites not a way communicating and sharing information freely?
Why is it only now; when bigger corps start eclipsing the sun for smaller corps, that all of a sudden this outcry for saving the internet started appearing?
Dont get me wrong, I stand by net neutrality but I just want to correct the fundamental basis on which this campaign is being run, it's not for the freedom of internet or saving it, it's just smaller money hungry corps wanting a piece of the proverbial chunk of 'cake' that only the big corps are reserving for themselves.
If you want a true unbiased free internet, then stop regulating the internet altogether.
Death has started with internet.org
Some developments. TRAI has asked RComto put Free Basics (internet.org in a new bottle) on hold.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/rcom-says-commercial-launch-of-free-basics-on-hold-pending-trai-approval/articleshow/50298524.cms
The telecom sector regulator has Wednesday asked Reliance Communications (RCom) to submit the terms and conditions of Facebook's Free Basics services that the telco offers on its network, and asked the carrier not to offer it till the carrier submits the details.
Death has started with internet.org
They managed to get through without wide publicity (unlike Airtel).
Once the TRAI finalizes its rules / guidelines, they will have to shut shop.
"Those companies that wish their services to be seamless accessed by people without barrier of internet cost can come to us."
That's www.internet.org
That won't happen as they've opted for reverse strategy which in fact is compliant with current regulation and will continue to be same. Zambia, Bangladesh, Ghana, and India...why? Don't tell me .. these countries have low internet penetration. That fucking excuse. If they fail then Project Loon is in making.
Death has started with internet.org
They managed to get through without wide publicity (unlike Airtel).
Once the TRAI finalizes its rules / guidelines, they will have to shut shop.
Death has started with internet.org
I don't think that it is really going to work in India. Indian customers are paying more and still not getting the speed required and the price that customers are paying is much more higher as compared to other countries company says its 3g speed but it think its very low.
that is the price you pay for dependency technology services in a developing countryThis is true. I have lived in the US for a couple of years and we paid around 40-50$ for the internet as well as a TV connection , and we got more than 50 MBPS on download. Indian companies already have a monopoly over the business, and are just trying to squeeze more money out of the people.
I completely agree with this. Indian companies believes in earning more profits and thats what they are meant for and even charging higher rates the speed of internet is below the level if you go to villages you even can't search for the network but still companies will charge the same.
I don't think that it is really going to work in India. Indian customers are paying more and still not getting the speed required and the price that customers are paying is much more higher as compared to other countries company says its 3g speed but it think its very low.
that is the price you pay for dependency technology services in a developing countryThis is true. I have lived in the US for a couple of years and we paid around 40-50$ for the internet as well as a TV connection , and we got more than 50 MBPS on download. Indian companies already have a monopoly over the business, and are just trying to squeeze more money out of the people.
I don't think that it is really going to work in India. Indian customers are paying more and still not getting the speed required and the price that customers are paying is much more higher as compared to other countries company says its 3g speed but it think its very low.
that is the price you pay for dependency technology services in a developing country
I don't think that it is really going to work in India. Indian customers are paying more and still not getting the speed required and the price that customers are paying is much more higher as compared to other countries company says its 3g speed but it think its very low.
BSNL is surely better looking at how they have offered 9PM-7AM free calling on any network/mobile
The only problem with BSNL till now are the service issues and the slow response time in case of any problems. But with a great demand and business they should be compelled to work towards being a better company.
As for the Netneutrality , news just broke out yesterday that TRAI made all the email id's public, making the list being prone to be taken by spammers.
http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/social/net-neutrality-debate-trai-makes-all-responses-public-including-your-email-id/
and soon after their website was down due to DDoS attacks by anonymous.
Seems recently Telcos are now threatening to increase the tariffs for those plans. Just read this article where they are now proposing to increase the tariffs six folds seeing their initial plan failing
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Net-neutrality-Telcos-warn-of-six-fold-hike-in-data-tariffs/articleshow/47046263.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Net-neutrality-Telcos-warn-of-six-fold-hike-in-data-tariffs/articleshow/47046263.cms
They are trying to create counter pressure. If competition does not bring the price down then we should think about implementing Internet Balloon.
Or maybe we should all shift to the Indian Alternative BSNL, and have more than enough signups to it, that they are forced to develope the infrastructure and offer a perfect alternative.
BSNL is surely better looking at how they have offered 9PM-7AM free calling on any network/mobile
Seems recently Telcos are now threatening to increase the tariffs for those plans. Just read this article where they are now proposing to increase the tariffs six folds seeing their initial plan failing
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Net-neutrality-Telcos-warn-of-six-fold-hike-in-data-tariffs/articleshow/47046263.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Net-neutrality-Telcos-warn-of-six-fold-hike-in-data-tariffs/articleshow/47046263.cms
They are trying to create counter pressure. If competition does not bring the price down then we should think about implementing Internet Balloon.
Or maybe we should all shift to the Indian Alternative BSNL, and have more than enough signups to it, that they are forced to develope the infrastructure and offer a perfect alternative.
Seems recently Telcos are now threatening to increase the tariffs for those plans. Just read this article where they are now proposing to increase the tariffs six folds seeing their initial plan failing
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Net-neutrality-Telcos-warn-of-six-fold-hike-in-data-tariffs/articleshow/47046263.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Net-neutrality-Telcos-warn-of-six-fold-hike-in-data-tariffs/articleshow/47046263.cms
They are trying to create counter pressure. If competition does not bring the price down then we should think about implementing Internet Balloon.
Seems recently Telcos are now threatening to increase the tariffs for those plans. Just read this article where they are now proposing to increase the tariffs six folds seeing their initial plan failing
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Net-neutrality-Telcos-warn-of-six-fold-hike-in-data-tariffs/articleshow/47046263.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Net-neutrality-Telcos-warn-of-six-fold-hike-in-data-tariffs/articleshow/47046263.cms
There is a new term for people like us.... 
http://www.thehindu.com/features/magazine/freedom-struggle-20/article7137585.ece
The battle for net neutrality, in India at least, looks to have exacerbated suddenly in the past few weeks. In truth, however, the issue has been brewing for quite a while, fanned by the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) penchant for preparing sheaves of rules and regulations, sundry disputes and discourses by the Reddit demigods and anyone who owns a blog or a YouTube channel, the Bitcoin mafia’s complacent insistence on being the saviour of the web as we know it, and the rumours and filtered nuggets of news surrounding Google’s plans for a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO).
http://www.thehindu.com/features/magazine/freedom-struggle-20/article7137585.ece
The battle for net neutrality, in India at least, looks to have exacerbated suddenly in the past few weeks. In truth, however, the issue has been brewing for quite a while, fanned by the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) penchant for preparing sheaves of rules and regulations, sundry disputes and discourses by the Reddit demigods and anyone who owns a blog or a YouTube channel, the Bitcoin mafia’s complacent insistence on being the saviour of the web as we know it, and the rumours and filtered nuggets of news surrounding Google’s plans for a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO).
I certainly won't mind that word
, it sounds kind of awesome .Anyway's , who wrote this stuff , it's great. I never considered what will happen to anonymity of BTC if net neutrality goes away.
There is a new term for people like us....
http://www.thehindu.com/features/magazine/freedom-struggle-20/article7137585.ece
The battle for net neutrality, in India at least, looks to have exacerbated suddenly in the past few weeks. In truth, however, the issue has been brewing for quite a while, fanned by the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) penchant for preparing sheaves of rules and regulations, sundry disputes and discourses by the Reddit demigods and anyone who owns a blog or a YouTube channel, the Bitcoin mafia’s complacent insistence on being the saviour of the web as we know it, and the rumours and filtered nuggets of news surrounding Google’s plans for a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO).
http://www.thehindu.com/features/magazine/freedom-struggle-20/article7137585.ece
The battle for net neutrality, in India at least, looks to have exacerbated suddenly in the past few weeks. In truth, however, the issue has been brewing for quite a while, fanned by the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) penchant for preparing sheaves of rules and regulations, sundry disputes and discourses by the Reddit demigods and anyone who owns a blog or a YouTube channel, the Bitcoin mafia’s complacent insistence on being the saviour of the web as we know it, and the rumours and filtered nuggets of news surrounding Google’s plans for a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO).
Got this message from Airtel CEO
Quote
Dear Customer
Over the last few days you may have seen a lot of conversation on our toll free platform Airtel Zero. It has been painted as a move that violates net neutrality and we have been very concerned at the incorrect information that has been carried by some quarters in the media as well as in social media. I wanted to take this opportunity to clear the air and reiterate that we are completely committed to net neutrality. Let me clarify.
Our vision is to have every Indian on the internet. There are millions of Indians who think that the internet is expensive and do not know what it can do for them. We believe that every Indian has the right to be on the internet. We know that if we allow them to experience the joys of the internet they will join the digital revolution.
Airtel Zero is a technology platform that connects application providers to their customers for free. The platform allows any content or application provider to enroll on it so that their customers can visit these sites for free. Instead of charging customers we charge the providers who choose to get on to the platform.
Our platform is open to all application developers, content providers and internet sites on an equal basis. The same rate card is offered to all these providers on a totally non discriminatory basis.
There is no difference between this and toll free voice such as 1-800. When a company selling an insurance product enrols into the toll free voice platform, customers who call the number are not charged but when they call a normal number they are charged. Calls are not blocked or given preferential treatment else our whole business would be jeopardized. Toll free voice helps the business owner engage with their customer. At the same time it provides the customer the benefit of reaching the business for free. Toll free voice is not a product or a tariff plan, it is merely a technology platform. We are simply taking the same concept of toll free voice to the world of data. As a result it is for the application developer and their customer to decide how data charges will be paid for. If the application developer is on the platform they pay for the data and their customer does not. If the developer is not on the platform the customer pays for data as they do now. Companies are free to choose whether they want to be on the platform or not. This does not change access to the content in any way whatsoever. Customers are free to choose which web site they want to visit, whether it is toll free or not. If they visit a toll free site they are not charged for data. If they visit any other site normal data charges apply.
Finally every web site, content or application will always be given the same treatment on our network whether they are on the toll free platform or not. As a company we do not ever block, throttle or provide any differential speeds to any web site. We have never done it and will never do it. We believe customers are the reason we are in business. As a result we will always do what is right for our customers.
There has been a deliberate effort by some quarters to confuse people that we will offer differential speeds or differential access for different sites. This is untrue. After all we earn revenues from data. If there are more customers who are on the Internet the better it is for our business. Our revenues are not dependent on which sites they visit because we charge on the basis of consumption of mega bytes not which site they visited.
In sum our platform is a technology platform and is open to all application developers and their customers. Our platform only provides a choice of how the data that is consumed is paid for by any of the two - the application provider or their customer. Whether any application provider enrolls on the platform or not is entirely their choice. All we have is a technology. We do not have a product or tariff plan that we have launched. We simply have a platform. And every application developer and their customer is free to choose in an entirely neutral way what they want to do.
In conclusion, we stand fully committed to net neutrality to ensure the goals of the Prime Minister`s vision of digital India are met.
Regards,
Gopal Vittal
MD & CEO
Bharti Airtel Ltd.
India & South Asia
Over the last few days you may have seen a lot of conversation on our toll free platform Airtel Zero. It has been painted as a move that violates net neutrality and we have been very concerned at the incorrect information that has been carried by some quarters in the media as well as in social media. I wanted to take this opportunity to clear the air and reiterate that we are completely committed to net neutrality. Let me clarify.
Our vision is to have every Indian on the internet. There are millions of Indians who think that the internet is expensive and do not know what it can do for them. We believe that every Indian has the right to be on the internet. We know that if we allow them to experience the joys of the internet they will join the digital revolution.
Airtel Zero is a technology platform that connects application providers to their customers for free. The platform allows any content or application provider to enroll on it so that their customers can visit these sites for free. Instead of charging customers we charge the providers who choose to get on to the platform.
Our platform is open to all application developers, content providers and internet sites on an equal basis. The same rate card is offered to all these providers on a totally non discriminatory basis.
There is no difference between this and toll free voice such as 1-800. When a company selling an insurance product enrols into the toll free voice platform, customers who call the number are not charged but when they call a normal number they are charged. Calls are not blocked or given preferential treatment else our whole business would be jeopardized. Toll free voice helps the business owner engage with their customer. At the same time it provides the customer the benefit of reaching the business for free. Toll free voice is not a product or a tariff plan, it is merely a technology platform. We are simply taking the same concept of toll free voice to the world of data. As a result it is for the application developer and their customer to decide how data charges will be paid for. If the application developer is on the platform they pay for the data and their customer does not. If the developer is not on the platform the customer pays for data as they do now. Companies are free to choose whether they want to be on the platform or not. This does not change access to the content in any way whatsoever. Customers are free to choose which web site they want to visit, whether it is toll free or not. If they visit a toll free site they are not charged for data. If they visit any other site normal data charges apply.
Finally every web site, content or application will always be given the same treatment on our network whether they are on the toll free platform or not. As a company we do not ever block, throttle or provide any differential speeds to any web site. We have never done it and will never do it. We believe customers are the reason we are in business. As a result we will always do what is right for our customers.
There has been a deliberate effort by some quarters to confuse people that we will offer differential speeds or differential access for different sites. This is untrue. After all we earn revenues from data. If there are more customers who are on the Internet the better it is for our business. Our revenues are not dependent on which sites they visit because we charge on the basis of consumption of mega bytes not which site they visited.
In sum our platform is a technology platform and is open to all application developers and their customers. Our platform only provides a choice of how the data that is consumed is paid for by any of the two - the application provider or their customer. Whether any application provider enrolls on the platform or not is entirely their choice. All we have is a technology. We do not have a product or tariff plan that we have launched. We simply have a platform. And every application developer and their customer is free to choose in an entirely neutral way what they want to do.
In conclusion, we stand fully committed to net neutrality to ensure the goals of the Prime Minister`s vision of digital India are met.
Regards,
Gopal Vittal
MD & CEO
Bharti Airtel Ltd.
India & South Asia
Though it is better but still i don't want to support Airtel Zero , They are just good with words , what if they imply some change later ?
The overall concept of having all things in one place removes the fun n entertainment of surfing.
Got this message from Airtel CEO
Quote
Dear Customer
Over the last few days you may have seen a lot of conversation on our toll free platform Airtel Zero. It has been painted as a move that violates net neutrality and we have been very concerned at the incorrect information that has been carried by some quarters in the media as well as in social media. I wanted to take this opportunity to clear the air and reiterate that we are completely committed to net neutrality. Let me clarify.
Our vision is to have every Indian on the internet. There are millions of Indians who think that the internet is expensive and do not know what it can do for them. We believe that every Indian has the right to be on the internet. We know that if we allow them to experience the joys of the internet they will join the digital revolution.
Airtel Zero is a technology platform that connects application providers to their customers for free. The platform allows any content or application provider to enroll on it so that their customers can visit these sites for free. Instead of charging customers we charge the providers who choose to get on to the platform.
Our platform is open to all application developers, content providers and internet sites on an equal basis. The same rate card is offered to all these providers on a totally non discriminatory basis.
There is no difference between this and toll free voice such as 1-800. When a company selling an insurance product enrols into the toll free voice platform, customers who call the number are not charged but when they call a normal number they are charged. Calls are not blocked or given preferential treatment else our whole business would be jeopardized. Toll free voice helps the business owner engage with their customer. At the same time it provides the customer the benefit of reaching the business for free. Toll free voice is not a product or a tariff plan, it is merely a technology platform. We are simply taking the same concept of toll free voice to the world of data. As a result it is for the application developer and their customer to decide how data charges will be paid for. If the application developer is on the platform they pay for the data and their customer does not. If the developer is not on the platform the customer pays for data as they do now. Companies are free to choose whether they want to be on the platform or not. This does not change access to the content in any way whatsoever. Customers are free to choose which web site they want to visit, whether it is toll free or not. If they visit a toll free site they are not charged for data. If they visit any other site normal data charges apply.
Finally every web site, content or application will always be given the same treatment on our network whether they are on the toll free platform or not. As a company we do not ever block, throttle or provide any differential speeds to any web site. We have never done it and will never do it. We believe customers are the reason we are in business. As a result we will always do what is right for our customers.
There has been a deliberate effort by some quarters to confuse people that we will offer differential speeds or differential access for different sites. This is untrue. After all we earn revenues from data. If there are more customers who are on the Internet the better it is for our business. Our revenues are not dependent on which sites they visit because we charge on the basis of consumption of mega bytes not which site they visited.
In sum our platform is a technology platform and is open to all application developers and their customers. Our platform only provides a choice of how the data that is consumed is paid for by any of the two - the application provider or their customer. Whether any application provider enrolls on the platform or not is entirely their choice. All we have is a technology. We do not have a product or tariff plan that we have launched. We simply have a platform. And every application developer and their customer is free to choose in an entirely neutral way what they want to do.
In conclusion, we stand fully committed to net neutrality to ensure the goals of the Prime Minister`s vision of digital India are met.
Regards,
Gopal Vittal
MD & CEO
Bharti Airtel Ltd.
India & South Asia
Over the last few days you may have seen a lot of conversation on our toll free platform Airtel Zero. It has been painted as a move that violates net neutrality and we have been very concerned at the incorrect information that has been carried by some quarters in the media as well as in social media. I wanted to take this opportunity to clear the air and reiterate that we are completely committed to net neutrality. Let me clarify.
Our vision is to have every Indian on the internet. There are millions of Indians who think that the internet is expensive and do not know what it can do for them. We believe that every Indian has the right to be on the internet. We know that if we allow them to experience the joys of the internet they will join the digital revolution.
Airtel Zero is a technology platform that connects application providers to their customers for free. The platform allows any content or application provider to enroll on it so that their customers can visit these sites for free. Instead of charging customers we charge the providers who choose to get on to the platform.
Our platform is open to all application developers, content providers and internet sites on an equal basis. The same rate card is offered to all these providers on a totally non discriminatory basis.
There is no difference between this and toll free voice such as 1-800. When a company selling an insurance product enrols into the toll free voice platform, customers who call the number are not charged but when they call a normal number they are charged. Calls are not blocked or given preferential treatment else our whole business would be jeopardized. Toll free voice helps the business owner engage with their customer. At the same time it provides the customer the benefit of reaching the business for free. Toll free voice is not a product or a tariff plan, it is merely a technology platform. We are simply taking the same concept of toll free voice to the world of data. As a result it is for the application developer and their customer to decide how data charges will be paid for. If the application developer is on the platform they pay for the data and their customer does not. If the developer is not on the platform the customer pays for data as they do now. Companies are free to choose whether they want to be on the platform or not. This does not change access to the content in any way whatsoever. Customers are free to choose which web site they want to visit, whether it is toll free or not. If they visit a toll free site they are not charged for data. If they visit any other site normal data charges apply.
Finally every web site, content or application will always be given the same treatment on our network whether they are on the toll free platform or not. As a company we do not ever block, throttle or provide any differential speeds to any web site. We have never done it and will never do it. We believe customers are the reason we are in business. As a result we will always do what is right for our customers.
There has been a deliberate effort by some quarters to confuse people that we will offer differential speeds or differential access for different sites. This is untrue. After all we earn revenues from data. If there are more customers who are on the Internet the better it is for our business. Our revenues are not dependent on which sites they visit because we charge on the basis of consumption of mega bytes not which site they visited.
In sum our platform is a technology platform and is open to all application developers and their customers. Our platform only provides a choice of how the data that is consumed is paid for by any of the two - the application provider or their customer. Whether any application provider enrolls on the platform or not is entirely their choice. All we have is a technology. We do not have a product or tariff plan that we have launched. We simply have a platform. And every application developer and their customer is free to choose in an entirely neutral way what they want to do.
In conclusion, we stand fully committed to net neutrality to ensure the goals of the Prime Minister`s vision of digital India are met.
Regards,
Gopal Vittal
MD & CEO
Bharti Airtel Ltd.
India & South Asia
It's good , i have already voted
I think we can move this to main board of our country , given there are already less users and it won't hurt to keep it there for a week or two
I think we can move this to main board of our country , given there are already less users and it won't hurt to keep it there for a week or two
Moving it back to the main board as this does effect Bitcoin providers as well and as a start-up environment, it would be impossible to grow innovation without a neutral net.
Yes! Thanks
This is getting scary day-by-day
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