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sr. member
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August 24, 2014, 03:54:35 AM
#12
Great now we're resorting to the potential of theft.  Again it will be more profitable to bully seniors in a grocery store parking lot than it would be to sneak a miner into Starbucks.  If that things ever gets tracked back to you by serial number or fingerprints I can't imagine the number of crimes you could be charged with.

Really, there's good money in bullying seniors? I'll have to research that. Is there a forum on the topic?   Wink
Well, I'm a senior, so just because we're on Social Security, doesn't mean it's appropriate to try to take advantage of us.  Believe it or not, we're human beings too!
legendary
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August 24, 2014, 03:16:49 AM
#11
Guys, the question is how much electricity can u steal? you risk your S3 which worth way more.
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
August 24, 2014, 02:59:53 AM
#10
Interesting post. But the reality is much different.

Who is going to go through all that trouble and risk for (currently) $4 per day to hide an S3 in a Starbucks ceiling. Equally as ridiculous is a traveling businessman lugging an S3 in his suitcase so he can plug it in a hotel room. The TSA would be pretty curious about that strange machine in your luggage.

Of course it might be worthwhile if you were talking about an SP30. But trying to hide that in a place where it wouldn't immediately be heard would be virtually impossible.

Now the extension cord to the neighbor's house, I quite like that idea. Lol.
More than a third of the people on Earth make less than $2 per day, only counting wage-earners. In reality, it's probably significantly over half who earn less than $2/day. $4/day, then, is MASSIVE for most people, and well worth the risk.

Point taken. But I don't think it's likely that those people are buying a lot of ASICs.
donator
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August 24, 2014, 02:50:44 AM
#9
Interesting post. But the reality is much different.

Who is going to go through all that trouble and risk for (currently) $4 per day to hide an S3 in a Starbucks ceiling. Equally as ridiculous is a traveling businessman lugging an S3 in his suitcase so he can plug it in a hotel room. The TSA would be pretty curious about that strange machine in your luggage.

Of course it might be worthwhile if you were talking about an SP30. But trying to hide that in a place where it wouldn't immediately be heard would be virtually impossible.

Now the extension cord to the neighbor's house, I quite like that idea. Lol.
More than a third of the people on Earth make less than $2 per day, only counting wage-earners. In reality, it's probably significantly over half who earn less than $2/day. $4/day, then, is MASSIVE for most people, and well worth the risk.
DrG
legendary
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August 24, 2014, 02:36:50 AM
#8
Great now we're resorting to the potential of theft.  Again it will be more profitable to bully seniors in a grocery store parking lot than it would be to sneak a miner into Starbucks.  If that things ever gets tracked back to you by serial number or fingerprints I can't imagine the number of crimes you could be charged with.

Really, there's good money in bullying seniors? I'll have to research that. Is there a forum on the topic?   Wink

Well they're guaranteed to have some hard candy, some loose change, a handkerchief and a whole bunch of keys in their pockets so I like to hold them upside down and shake them.  Those Werther's Original are too damn good to pass up.

Seriously it comes down to risk vs benefit.  What kind of trouble are you risking by blatantly stealing from a company and violating it's open access internet policy vs what you have to gain ($4/day as noted above and falling every 11 days).
sr. member
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Lux e tenebris
August 24, 2014, 02:14:16 AM
#7
Great now we're resorting to the potential of theft.  Again it will be more profitable to bully seniors in a grocery store parking lot than it would be to sneak a miner into Starbucks.  If that things ever gets tracked back to you by serial number or fingerprints I can't imagine the number of crimes you could be charged with.

Really, there's good money in bullying seniors? I'll have to research that. Is there a forum on the topic?   Wink

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Glow Stick Dance!
August 24, 2014, 01:40:18 AM
#6
Great now we're resorting to the potential of theft.  Again it will be more profitable to bully seniors in a grocery store parking lot than it would be to sneak a miner into Starbucks.  If that things ever gets tracked back to you by serial number or fingerprints I can't imagine the number of crimes you could be charged with.

Really, there's good money in bullying seniors? I'll have to research that. Is there a forum on the topic?   Wink
DrG
legendary
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August 23, 2014, 11:50:35 PM
#5
Great now we're resorting to the potential of theft.  Again it will be more profitable to bully seniors in a grocery store parking lot than it would be to sneak a miner into Starbucks.  If that things ever gets tracked back to you by serial number or fingerprints I can't imagine the number of crimes you could be charged with.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
August 23, 2014, 10:26:58 PM
#4
Interesting post. But the reality is much different.

Who is going to go through all that trouble and risk for (currently) $4 per day to hide an S3 in a Starbucks ceiling. Equally as ridiculous is a traveling businessman lugging an S3 in his suitcase so he can plug it in a hotel room. The TSA would be pretty curious about that strange machine in your luggage.

Of course it might be worthwhile if you were talking about an SP30. But trying to hide that in a place where it wouldn't immediately be heard would be virtually impossible.

Now the extension cord to the neighbor's house, I quite like that idea. Lol.


Well the really good ideas  I am leaving out  and believe me  there are more then one.
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
August 23, 2014, 06:28:38 PM
#3
Interesting post. But the reality is much different.

Who is going to go through all that trouble and risk for (currently) $4 per day to hide an S3 in a Starbucks ceiling. Equally as ridiculous is a traveling businessman lugging an S3 in his suitcase so he can plug it in a hotel room. The TSA would be pretty curious about that strange machine in your luggage.

Of course it might be worthwhile if you were talking about an SP30. But trying to hide that in a place where it wouldn't immediately be heard would be virtually impossible.

Now the extension cord to the neighbor's house, I quite like that idea. Lol.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
August 23, 2014, 04:03:24 PM
#2
Before I type my little idea scenario here, I am not advocating the use of these ideas.  Wink

For some reason I cannot stop thinking about what to do with all this leftover mining equipment when difficulty and electric cost make my S3 miners unprofitable. My imagination runs wild with ideas. I read on bitcointalk ideas for using miners as space heaters while obvious generating small amounts of bitcoin. What a great idea! Of course taking into account cost, electric efficiency, and heat output of a space heater and comparing it to a bitcoin miner. This again has me thinking.

We hear about “botnets” or these big malware viruses that can be downloaded on a victim’s computer and then start mining bitcoin for a perpetrator. One computer might not add up to a lot of bitcoin, but spread it out over 100,000 downloaders and I’m sure it starts becoming profitable. However, the same rule applies to these malware creators as it does miners. Difficulty will always raise making the operation less profitable as time goes on. Instead of stealing computer resources to mine bitcoin, crypto-crooks will have to move on to something else. Electricity.

Here’s a scenario I see happening in the future. S3 miners become no longer efficient because of electricity rates and difficulty. They drop in price and are very affordable. Crypto-crook “Steve” attaches a wifi antenna to his S3 board heads to the nearest Starbucks, or even a nice highway rest area. Steve slides a piece of the drop ceiling out of place in the bathroom, and taps into the electricity from the florescent light. He plugs in his S3 miner, and connects it to the free wifi. There you have it, Steve is now running a rig that is virtually untraceable if found, and will run until it IS found. Or until it burns down the building lol. Which is another thing we might see.

We see reports of people using workplace servers to mine bitcoin, and there is always chatter in the forums about moving into a college dorm with electric included and running a few miners. Imagine a tech guy at a small but busy doctor’s office throwing an S3 miner on the server rack. No one would question it unless a new tech guy got hired.

Do you guys think electricity theft or even just ‘scheming’ with included electricity is going to turn into a big thing once we hit our climax of ASIC hardware? I think we are going to see some clever and useful, but also dangerous and illegal activates start taking place.

yes it will happen more and more.

the s-3 is good for this but the s-1 is also good.

People will do this I can see college students doing it.  Hey my neighbor is on vacation a lot during the summer.  Plugging in a 100 foot extension cord into his backyard outlet would be easy to do.  A businessman that use hotels  a lot hooking up an s-3 is a snap in a hotel room.  I would think the asicminer tube would be very nice to use in a hotel room.  send the coins to a paper wallet.
newbie
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August 23, 2014, 03:50:44 PM
#1
Before I type my little idea scenario here, I am not advocating the use of these ideas.  Wink

For some reason I cannot stop thinking about what to do with all this leftover mining equipment when difficulty and electric cost make my S3 miners unprofitable. My imagination runs wild with ideas. I read on bitcointalk ideas for using miners as space heaters while obvious generating small amounts of bitcoin. What a great idea! Of course taking into account cost, electric efficiency, and heat output of a space heater and comparing it to a bitcoin miner. This again has me thinking.

We hear about “botnets” or these big malware viruses that can be downloaded on a victim’s computer and then start mining bitcoin for a perpetrator. One computer might not add up to a lot of bitcoin, but spread it out over 100,000 downloaders and I’m sure it starts becoming profitable. However, the same rule applies to these malware creators as it does miners. Difficulty will always raise making the operation less profitable as time goes on. Instead of stealing computer resources to mine bitcoin, crypto-crooks will have to move on to something else. Electricity.

Here’s a scenario I see happening in the future. S3 miners become no longer efficient because of electricity rates and difficulty. They drop in price and are very affordable. Crypto-crook “Steve” attaches a wifi antenna to his S3 board heads to the nearest Starbucks, or even a nice highway rest area. Steve slides a piece of the drop ceiling out of place in the bathroom, and taps into the electricity from the florescent light. He plugs in his S3 miner, and connects it to the free wifi. There you have it, Steve is now running a rig that is virtually untraceable if found, and will run until it IS found. Or until it burns down the building lol. Which is another thing we might see.

We see reports of people using workplace servers to mine bitcoin, and there is always chatter in the forums about moving into a college dorm with electric included and running a few miners. Imagine a tech guy at a small but busy doctor’s office throwing an S3 miner on the server rack. No one would question it unless a new tech guy got hired.

Do you guys think electricity theft or even just ‘scheming’ with included electricity is going to turn into a big thing once we hit our climax of ASIC hardware? I think we are going to see some clever and useful, but also dangerous and illegal activates start taking place.
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