Topic: Stefan Mandel hits the lottery jackpot 14 times and left the commission panicks (Read 282 times)

Winning the lottery multiple times can make the commission think that you’re cheating but yeah, math can really solve the lottery but still it will work in many probability, that guy is something special and that winning is the proof that lottery can be beaten not just having a big capital but also with the numbers computation. If you have the money that big now, for sure you’ll bet for more, thinking about if the commission will blocklisted that guy.

Ive heard of this before not just one person its about the maths of it all.  It is the strangest thing that it could be true but shows sometimes the lottery is not bad value at all.    Most of the time its not true that the lottery has any positive net bias in its payout sometimes however the prize fund accumulates where its very much profit to participate; noticing the difference is important and requires much discipline, good planning and the ability to purchase alot of tickets without drawing too much attention.

He had actually messed up that kind of opportunity and just ruining his reputation but well for the sake of money and having that tons of money then he could really get away from it
specially with those legal potential lawsuits since there would be no legal agreements in between him and his investors. Yes, he should really be thankful with his investors knowing
that you cant make those lottery ticket purchases on your own since this one would really be requiring that huge funds on which this situation do shows that he dont have
that kind of sense of responsibility or even thankful into his investors. I wont be shocked if this dude would be lying down in the streets and shot dead. 

I think he used the power of many, I do not think mathematical calculation can precisely predict the winning numbers of the lottery.  People have lots of strategies but at the end it is the power of many, meaning the more he buy lottery tickets the more chance of winning.  The said calculation is just a lee way for him to gather people's trust into investing in his so-called brilliant strategy. 


I believe nothing will happen if the number he chooses doesn't win, I think he had convinced these people that if the bet is lost the money is lost, it's gambling anyway.  I would also participate in the fund pooling for a better chance of winnings than betting as a single entity since with pooled funds and lots of tickets bought, I had a better chance of winning.

I believe this kind of strategy was applied to the Philippines lotto draw last year where the two jackpots after being boosted won in the same month. As it became controversial, the method the winner used was exposed and it is by investing a huge amount of money to buy every number combination.



I think there is no probability calculation it is just buying bulk tickets that contain all the possible combinations.  With that, it is a sure win for the group who executed the strategy. 


The last thing the article about these guy stated that he filed a bankruptcy, the guy personally earned millions of dollar while his investors received less than what they had expected.

When we do speak about math probability and if someone who do able to know on how to make use of it then it would really be an advantage and not all would really be that on the same page
or something that do talks that knows on these calculations. 14x isnt no joke and this do really proves out that it is really that possible on exploiting out that current lottery.
Wondering on what he's been doing now? For sure he would really be that getting banned into joining lotteries. How about if he would really be giving out those combinations
and would really be that getting some huge portion out of those winnings but he do instead making use of a dummy?

So it's his greed that made him bankrupt eventually because if he would have kept his winnings after winning 3-4 lotteries then he wouldn't have come in the radar.
But 14 times is a huge number of times to win a lottery. A lot of it also depends on how he drived the case.
If he would have thought of some clever strategy then may be he could have won the case or at least would have kept some of the winnings for himself.
Anyways, now that he is back to stage 1, I think he wouldn't stop here and may be try something new again.

I wonder what he would do if he couldn't win the jackpot after getting investments from 2,524 people for it because I don't think he had convinced them that if he lost, their money would be gone. After all, they would never give him money if they weren't promised returns in any case.

However, what he pulled off is something unbelievable because one cannot even think of winning two consecutive lotteries based on how much luck one needs for that to happen, and he managed to do it 14 times consecutively.

Kids who read such stories will become interested in learning mathematics because if one can do such things using mathematical equations, who wouldn't want to know mathematics?

just like the movie - Jerry & Marge Go Large, the couple found a way to get the winning combinations by buying large portion of the tickets. so yeah, bulk-buying tickets is an old tactic to screw up the lottery system. however, with this method, i guess a lot of lottery systems are now having specific rules on buying tickets. especially those lottery tickets which only need quite smaller number of possible combinations in order to get the winning combination.


definitely, there's the side of protecting their interest here. because if someone can repeatedly win such big amount, what do you think will happen to their vault? so they will find a way how to stop this scenario from happening again and again. just like creating protocol towards bulk-buying and other related rules attached to it.

Lotteries are run by profit-generating companies or governments, they cannot allow a system to exist that will lose the betting public's confidence in the lottery that is why lotteries all over the world have rules against the system put up by Mandel. it's impossible to implement this now in our modern technology everything now is traceable in a lottery where the bet comes from, the time the tickets were purchased, and the number of tickets purchased by one bettor.
If there's a positive on Mandel's system the lottery can guarantee that the lottery is fair and no winning tickets are controlled by individuals or groups.


Based on the article provided by OP

Interesting story. Essentially, he was just looking for lotteries where the amount of the accumulated jackpot made the lottery profitable for the player. Simple math and nothing fancy. The only weak point in this strategy in my opinion is that some other player could also choose the winning combination and they would have to share the winnings. I don’t know if he was insured against this by the size of the jackpot (judging by the fact that he was looking for at least a triple jackpot relative to spending, he was insured).
The second difficult point is finding financing - even if the lottery is small and the entire circulation of tickets costs one million dollars, it is probably difficult to find investors who will understand that your strategy provides an almost guaranteed win.
The third point is printing (and filling) millions of lottery tickets.
This task looks more difficult for me than the previous two. Look: if you have 3 million tickets to print and fill out, and you spend 3 seconds on one ticket (this is very optimistic), then it will take you 277 hours to complete the job. In fact, it 100% took more than 3 seconds at times. I think he had a team of several assistants.

the gaming commission acts as the party that regulates casinos and when there is something strange at one of the casinos, they will act to investigate the matter. especially in lottery games, this is a game with a low probability of winning and the possibility of you getting a winning streak in this game is quite unlikely. and the man managed to get 14 consecutive wins and made the platform where he played go bankrupt. this is certainly an oddity because how could he possibly win 14 times in a game with a 1 in 300 million chance of winning, meaning there is something that needs to be investigated here by the gaming commission.

i'm not trying to say he's guilty, but when a player wins by relying on loopholes, it can be said that his win was invalid.

I think Stefan Mandel is a very experienced person and he can easily guess the lottery ticket numbers that's why he won the jackpot repeatedly and he is very lucky. No one gets a chance at the jackpot so many times so it is not surprising that he has many ideas to become a regular player. Winning by luck is always true again it is true that sometimes people win the just by chance but most of the frequent winners are by luck but by experience and strategy. Also wins through strong divination and intelligence. Those who play with the mindset that if they are lucky they will win often always lose.

His idea was very simple, yet nobody had thought about it before. He basically found a loophole where the number of tickets with every number combination would cost you less than the jackpot paid out, meaning that he was sure to profit from it. Even if all the tickets cost you 3 million and the payout after tax is 2.9, it's worth it. The only problem is getting 3 mill, which is what the lotteries count on that nobody who owns 3 mill will risk it to earn 100k. When you have that much money it's easy to make more money. Even a very safe investment like bonds will give you over 100k in return a year from your $3million.

He identified lapses in the lottery system gathered enough financial support and took some calculated risks. Mr Stefan Mandel was just a smart businessman who was able to convince investors to put in money in such a risky business.

The legal battle he went through caused him a lot of money which contributed to his bankruptcy. Sadly, he had to waste this money to fund his legal battle instead of enjoying it.

He didn't go against the rule of the lottery but he took advantage of the loophole in the system, maybe these lottery operators might be seeking any legal means that could indict him and maybe imprison him or make him pay damages to these lottery firms.

The government is suspicious of the number-picking combination strategy, they wouldn't have found out the flaw if it weren't for him. Yep, it's sad to see his 14 wins all fall in vain. It's got to be one sad story, in the interview he said everyone could have figured out the number-picking flaw just by looking at the ticket price. He is a genius for figuring that out. Not everyone could actually see it.

It's obvious though that he took advantage of the flawed system, maybe the court system also took advantage of its flaw to take money from him. Talking about fairness right?

I have always considered the lottery to be the worst thing that someone could do, because the chances of a person being able to get the right ticket and win a lot of money are very low and in my opinion it is not worth buying these lottery tickets every day. , from what I have observed in my country, my country's lottery company has installed machines in every corner of my country, they are electronic machines that allow people to buy tickets, so many people end up buying a lot of lottery tickets, when I look at the price of the lottery ticket vs the prize for the lottery winner, I see a very big difference, I would venture to say that probably the lottery company in my country can get 10X the amount they pay to the lottery winner .

and when I think that there are many people in my country who are spending money every day buying lots of lottery tickets instead of using the money to buy things they need to live happily, I feel sad about that, because while they are spending money on buying tickets, the owners of the lottery company are getting rich every month, and it makes it even sadder to see that with every ticket those people buy, they are also paying tax. In other words, the government is making money from all of this. I have nothing against the lottery, but I think there has been a huge exaggeration in my country. By this I mean that lottery companies already have an advantage over players

The rules made by lottery companies are for the exclusive benefit of the lottery company, and who can prove that someone actually won the lottery? If the company doesn't show the face of my country's lottery winner? I always asked myself this question until I started to doubt that there is any real winner, because it doesn't make any sense. I always thank myself for not liking the lottery, I prefer to keep placing sports bets because at least I have a chance of winning, even if the chances are slim.

After reading the article you mentioned it looks like he actually purchased all the possible combinations he thought would win him the jackpot.
That's impressive and it takes real guts to think of such a strategy and implement it in real life.


That's really unfair because if there's a flaw in the system and someone is taking advantage of it then it's the business that should own it up.
Changing the rules was a good decision but filing a lawsuit against the lottery winner isn't the right thing to do.

I've never won the lottery, so I don't know how to manipulate the results. Maybe manipulating the results exists but I think there must be lucky people who can guess lottery numbers like that person who is a mathematician. And I think some people can get a lot of luck, which allows them to win the jackpot prize. If someone manages to win the jackpot and he can get it many times, maybe he is lucky so he can get the jackpot prize. After all, not many people can win the jackpot prize because it depends on luck. Maybe that person could guess correctly so that he was the one who managed to get the jackpot many times. The lottery commission could block him from buying the lottery again because of concerns that he might win again, but that would raise suspicion among the public that his lottery game was manipulated by the casino so that no one could win.

On his case. He is not really trying his luck but rather using math to earn profit on a supposed luck based game. It’s sad reality that he ended bankruptcy despite he is just calculated betting without any form of cheating since he literally cover all the possible outcome.

I’m still confused why he needs to face legal battle for cheating accusations while lottery is cheat proof game because the draw is live especially if Stefan doesn’t have any connections inside.

Lottery commissions tweak their rules when someone like tht Stefan Mandel wins big repeatedly. They claim it's to keep things fair but many wonder if it's just to protect their own interests. It's a tricky balance between preventing cheating and making sure regular players get a fair shot at the jackpot

Even 3x-5x would already giving out that alarm or would be having those questions in mind on how the heck this thing do happen? How much more in 14x consecutive on which those commissions would really be panicking and me throwing those accusations about cheating or whatever that they could throw about but since they have seen about mathematical logic and applications then it is really just that normal that there's nothing that could be charged  against him. Thing now is on how to changed up with those lottery rules whether they would really be limitting the same winners on the time
that it would be able to hit up 2x consecutive or something like this?  We do know about probabilities on which we know that when it comes to mathematical probabilities then there's no
way on avoiding it out. This is why limitations should really be that set rather.

He is mathematician and the mindset of mathematician is logical because they use exact science, think rationally using logic and skills in combining various numbers or formulas that can produce accurate numbers.
This is skill that really cannot be denied or said to be fraud, but from this it is clear that lottery providers really feel panic if they go bankrupt because someone gets the jackpot very often.
It is not surprising that several lottery providers have made changes to their regulations, all of this is done to minimize the number of gamblers who are able to penetrate the algorithms they create randomly.

But what is clear is that not everyone or mathematicians can do it because it requires research and various trials to truly achieve success.
I think Stefan Mandel is one of the few people who has succeeded in using mathematics in gambling, hahaha he will be person who has the potential to cause bankruptcy for lottery providers or commissions.

14 times. Who does that anyway, any government that runs a lottery will really be suspecting what he is doing that he won several times.  It is record-breaking and the government will look into whether someone from the inside made him win the lottery. Though proven he is not cheating, its best to just change the rules.

Yes, it's unfair but I'm guessing this is done to give opportunities to the rest who are hoping to win as well. And as long as this guy will have the chance to buy tickets in bulk, those hopefuls might not even buy one ticket for themselves.

I was thinking the same in able to do this kind of multiple win on a lottery. Lottery commissioner is just dumb enough to investigate on this since they don’t any rules to limit the number of ticket a person can hold.
Besides, the jackpot prize was supposed to be distributed anyway whoever won which I’m confused why the lottery commissioner consider this as problem on their side assuming that they are not in loss if same user won using a sure bet strategy.

The only danger on this strategy is when there is multiple winner that will split the prize. Like what happened on PH lottery that bunch of players won the jackpot. 

I think he was smart enough to think of buying bunch of tickets to give him much chance which he called "combinatorial condensation" but apart from that, he is such a risk taker who wanted to explore his mathematical prowess in the gambling world by combining numbers .

This is intriguing, maybe he ended as one of the big winners in the gambling world who later went bankrupt after trying his hands and luck in other endeavours. This seem to be an example of the lose on of gambling.

I think that's unfair, should such an implementation stop us from seeking our fortunes from gambling? why not apply it to losing and winning, why should only the winner be followed up, if he buys randomly with the combination he did it is normal, and there is no cheating, it would be a shame if he had to go bankrupt

It was a flawed lottery or it is not possible to hit 14 times multimillion lotteries when playing them.Now I know that in 6 from 49 you need 13.900.000 tickets to get a sure win but the cost to get those tickets usually exceeds the biggest prize this lottery has to offer so it is a no go.The lottery we have here is 15 from 90 and it is almost impossible to win it in consecutive times yet many people have won it already through the years as it runs every week and every week a prize from 10.000 EUR to 150.000 EUR is gotten every week.

I see he had used a strategy,an algorithm number picking to get as many possible tickets to get the big win but the number of tickets to be less than the jackpot prize,I don't think he cheated,he only was favored by probability in this case.

He was bankrupt in the end though. The rules were changed because of what he had done which looks like not really cheating but just bulk-buying tickets with every possible combination.

I guess he used his money to pay the lawyers for years fighting the case. I think if you win the lottery for once in your life, you shouldn't try your luck again because if you win again, the CIA and FBI will investigate you for winning again. 

it's possible that he didn't buy all the possible combinations because he didn't have enough funds or there are missing information about that specific win, but as far as I know, he also won in 1992 where they printed about 7.1million tickets(which was every possible combination on that specific lottery) and he ended up winning the jackpot which was $27Million.

here's the article where I read his 1992 win
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-one-guy-won-the-lottery-14-times-2016-1

Wow, $97000 back in 1987 was a huge amount. It's a life changing amount for many people.
One thing I didn't understand is that, doesn't the total cost of all the combinations of tickets add up to more than the winning amount in the lottery ?
Why would anyone pay for a lottery out of their pockets if the total amount collected through selling these tickets is not more than the winning amount in lottery.

Never played the lotto because that's what I believed, it's rigged. Most lotteries are national lottery or state lottery like in the US and if the government is the one deciding who will win the jackpot then, can we really trust that? This Mandel guy who says it's just Mathematics, I surely doubt we can win in that kind of attack. The system looks for combinations that will not let anyone win for a long time which is why the pot keeps on growing to millions of dollars. It's actually a simple task that must be done but is considered rigging. But, who will we point fingers at? This industry is being held by the government itself so they cannot simply just trash any cases that will be filed against it. And, who is stupid enough to do that? Most people who are betting here are trying to make a fortune using little hope and I bet no gambler could afford to waste time digging about the fishy system of a government lottery.

there is a thread posted about this guy, I also read on an article and posted on that thread on how he supposedly managed to win 14 times on the lottery (I am quoting the supposed step by step on how he did it below).

I've never played lottery so I don't know how the lottery game works, but so far I know the lottery is a game about probability. And maybe it can be calculated mathematically, but I am sure that even though it can be calculated mathematically, it still requires large lottery purchases to increase chances of winning

Another possibility that could happen if the lottery is randomized using an algorithm is that if someone knows how the algorithm works then there is a possibility that he can calculate which numbers will come out.

Sometimes I wonder if the lottery commissions cares about the interests of the stakers. The lottery commission wouldn't care if the stakers looses their stakes as a comprise of the lottery sites manipulating the systems program in a way that they can twart (redirect) one chances to redeem a prosperous winning but when a staker hits attractively huge in the lottery, all eyes Will be on deck checkmating and investigating if the stakers boycotted they lottery system for such a prominent winning.
Does it mean they never expected or wanted anyone to hit such value of winning in the first place?

Let's talk about one Mr Stefan Mandel, a Romania-Australian mathematician who succeeded to hit millions and thousands of US dollars for 14 consecutive times which has got the lottery commissions worried about the possibilities of his several hitting the jackpot which series of investigations has been engaged on him to find if he uses tricks to profer him the prosperities but he defended his winning strategies was at the virtues of implying mathematical logic terms while he picks his prediction numbers.
They basically craved on how they could charge him with a persecution that he cheated or using a trick in one way or the other because his winnings has been overwhelmed but after much investigations he was vindicated and walked out free from all the assorted negatives forces of the false accusations.
The cause of this mans prosperous hitting the jackpots without being indicted on any accusations has caused the lottery  to amend it's rules.
https://www.unilad.com/community/life/man-who-won-lottery-14-times-explains-how-941995-20240215

It should be believed that the lottery did this rule changes for their own favour and not considering the stwkeri