How possible is it to win lottery 14 times using mathematics calculations

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Quote from: wiss19 on April 06, 2024, 12:02:03 AM

Quote from: SeaCoinCollector. on March 26, 2024, 03:56:18 AM

The mathematician might have used probability and statistics to find patterns in lottery numbers. We all know that lotteries are about luck, but I think, using mathematical is an advantage to try to increase chances of winning. Although we should also understand and remember that there is no foolproof method that winning is guaranteed by using these kind of techniques.

It's not always possible to achieve something like that, because if it were, there are a lot of people in the world who are experts in mathematics, and they would use their tricks and techniques to crack the code of a lottery and win the first prize every single time. This is the only story I have heard in my entire life about a person who managed to win the lottery 14 times using mathematical calculations.

I'm also pretty sure that lotteries and their management must have changed things after that and it isn't possible anymore for someone to do that even if they know how to do it. If we think we are smart, management of the casinos and lotteries are smart as well, they won't leave any loopholes open for anyone to exploit and make them go broke.

So what are the changes that they would make? Because if we do try to look about those probabilities then it is really that getting in line with mathematics and there's no way that it could really be avoided
not unless if they would really be rigging up the result and hitting up to those non winning combination then this is the only way they could really be able to avoid such win but we know that once this
kind of manipulation or cheating been busted up then there would really be no one will be betting even if its a government lottery if its proven out that they are really that cheating.

Someone did really be able to crack up the code on finding those combinations it is really just that its not something simple to buy tons of ticket combinations
because if we do speak about on the amount involved then this is something that cant be done by a single person. This is why we do really have those group buys.
Dont know if its really be that totally banned or still can be able to bet on other lotteries.

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Quote from: SeaCoinCollector. on March 26, 2024, 03:56:18 AM

The mathematician might have used probability and statistics to find patterns in lottery numbers. We all know that lotteries are about luck, but I think, using mathematical is an advantage to try to increase chances of winning. Although we should also understand and remember that there is no foolproof method that winning is guaranteed by using these kind of techniques.

It's not always possible to achieve something like that, because if it were, there are a lot of people in the world who are experts in mathematics, and they would use their tricks and techniques to crack the code of a lottery and win the first prize every single time. This is the only story I have heard in my entire life about a person who managed to win the lottery 14 times using mathematical calculations.

I'm also pretty sure that lotteries and their management must have changed things after that and it isn't possible anymore for someone to do that even if they know how to do it. If we think we are smart, management of the casinos and lotteries are smart as well, they won't leave any loopholes open for anyone to exploit and make them go broke.

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Quote from: wallet4bitcoin on January 02, 2024, 10:08:53 PM

Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230

Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be winner or there is a particular skill needed.

It's in the article.

He basically bought all the tickets, so of course they would win every time.

Now, it's not a great investment because if someone else wins as well the prize is divided.

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Quote from: wallet4bitcoin on January 02, 2024, 10:08:53 PM

Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230

Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be winner or there is a particular skill needed.

Well, funny enough this is the first time I’m hearing about a player winning 14 consecutive times from lottery which is very impossible except there is something the player isn’t telling us and I agree that, the platforms his Winning from, are rigged else how will a single player win 14 consecutive times in a lottery. It is even difficult to win on sport bets and soccer betting this consecutively and here someone is claiming to have won from lottery 14 consecutively and I don’t see proves enough he made all those acclaimed wins.

I’m not actually doubting the possibility but meh, you’ll agree with me that, it is always very impossible Except there’re things we actually aren’t aware of going on behalf the cameras.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on March 28, 2024, 03:11:14 PM

If a gambler win this much with mathematical calculations, it is the same thing as saying that the person has broken the code to the algorithm behind the lottery. It is even a big signal if the winnings are consecutive, in that case, the company will either pause to do investigation long before it even get to the 14th win. Lotteries are game of chance and there is no way a player will be so lucky to win several times consecutively so the result of this case will be a complete overhaul of the lottery system

No lottery gambler has ever made this even before, so this really calls for attention how he did this and make it real happen. But it’s obvious that something wrong is happening, so we’ll see how this investigation will end up. It’s either the game is rigged, which I think is quite impossible when it comes to lottery. Or maybe he is just good enough in his mathematical computation that made him exceptional smart and lucky winning those bets consistently.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on March 28, 2024, 03:11:14 PM

If a gambler win this much with mathematical calculations, it is the same thing as saying that the person has broken the code to the algorithm behind the lottery. It is even a big signal if the winnings are consecutive, in that case, the company will either pause to do investigation long before it even get to the 14th win. Lotteries are game of chance and there is no way a player will be so lucky to win several times consecutively so the result of this case will be a complete overhaul of the lottery system

LOL, but it was done before, and only in a month, PCSO list showed one bettor won 20 times in a month —Tulfo.

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Senator Raffy Tulfo on Tuesday disclosed that a bettor's name appeared to have won the lotto 20 times in one month, citing a list submitted by the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO).

But obviously this is rigged though, and we can't really comprehend how one person won a lottery not just once or twice or even fourteen times in his lifetime, but 20 minutes in just one month, how lucky this individual is? Grin

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If a gambler win this much with mathematical calculations, it is the same thing as saying that the person has broken the code to the algorithm behind the lottery. It is even a big signal if the winnings are consecutive, in that case, the company will either pause to do investigation long before it even get to the 14th win. Lotteries are game of chance and there is no way a player will be so lucky to win several times consecutively so the result of this case will be a complete overhaul of the lottery system

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on March 26, 2024, 05:47:12 PM

I don't really get the whole concept of this and I definitely think it's rigged, I mean how realistic is this ? It's not even possible to get a winning 4x in a row and not to talk of 14x. I believe the reason for most people not taking part in buying lottery ticket is because they already feel they are wasting their money and time because the possibility and probability of them actually getting the lucky number or ticket in one in a million and am also in same thought with this.

Some rare occurrence do really happen with something like this. I am not yet convinced that this is for real but I am leaning into that belief that this can happen sometimes. But one thing is for sure is that the winner is certainly one of the luckiest person and if that's the strategy that the mathematician was able to dug out and used that to gamble, it may be legal but for sure that the gambling providers should have stopped him when he's seen winning it consecutively for so many times. Usually, gambling operators will not allow someone to win a lot like when more than times already has gone for that gambler and they keep on winning. Well, only time can tell when these bets are really rigged and there might be some investigations that are already happening for it to get some better answers.

Without a doubt someone winning so many times will raise suspicions, however it seems that everything that he did was legal so they cannot touch him, so the only thing those lotteries could do was to change the methodology in which they conducted their business to nullify the advantage this person had, a thing it seems they did, still stories like this are without a doubt interesting to read as it allows us to see one of the few successful gambling stories you can find when it comes to beating the lotteries at their own game.

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Quote from: goaldigger on March 27, 2024, 04:51:48 PM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 04:24:06 AM

Games are easily manipulated therefore lottery as well could be rigged and there's no way any person could win repeatedly for 14 times without missing, and of course there is phishy manipulation behind this otherwise we can't find someone overly winning for that numbers of time.
Or do we say anything is possible?
Well from my knowledge about gambling have never came across such thing being so common and popular where someone do win, although winning gambling doesn't come consistent maybe it could be occasionally.

There might be manipulation here though its really the winner who place his bet and still get the win.
Your best luck might be present if you are able to get a win multiple times and I’d hope to get the same luck. If you are the house and that gambler won multiple times, I’m sure you’ll tell him to stop betting or else your business will bankrupt. This might be a coincidence only and it’s not a continues bet.

Its really hard to believe nowadays on whose been telling the truth or not on which we know that government could really be possibly also the ones who do get behind with those things on which you would really be having that kind of question on why they do let them on winning up 14x before they do make out such confrontation or questioning into this regard? When it comes to lottery then its true that everything could really be basing up with mathematics but the number of tickets that you would really be needing to buy up is something that involved huge money and not anyone could be easily be able to to do so,unless if there
would really be some pooling of funds then it could be possible but since this method or ways had been busted and he's been banned then i doubt that there would really be someone who do able to get
up on the same method as he is.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 04:32:49 PM

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 04:24:06 AM

Games are easily manipulated therefore lottery as well could be rigged and there's no way any person could win repeatedly for 14 times without missing, and of course there is phishy manipulation behind this otherwise we can't find someone overly winning for that numbers of time.
Or do we say anything is possible?
Well from my knowledge about gambling have never came across such thing being so common and popular where someone do win, although winning gambling doesn't come consistent maybe it could be occasionally.

The reason why I don't believe in this news is because in my opinion overall gambling is always about hit and miss activities and can never be predicted about the results at the end of the session which means you will only win when you are lucky while on the other hand luck is always unknowable when it comes and when it goes and also it is very difficult to achieve a lucky streak of 14x in a row like this, there is no such thing as an element of consistency in terms of luck, because everything is always about "occasional and coincidence", so I think your suspicion is right.

Maybe we can say that person was a staff in another casino where he knows lot of secret behind gambling and lottery how it works and how its being played for someone to keep winning continually. For instance, when when Hard Criminal join's the forces he knows the best way to fetch his follow criminal or alternatively, when a retired military man goes out to join with the criminal he knows the best way to escape force men while on their way going to robe. In summary, if this person doesn't know anything inside the lottery there no way he could win that much so if it was me I need to question him severely.

Yes it seems that it could also be true, as you said that there is a possibility that the person is one of the insiders in the casino or it could also be interpreted as staff or someone who works in the casino itself where there is a possibility that he knows about the secrets behind how to get a win on one of the games, although on the other hand I believe that overall gambling depends and refers to how lucky you are in running the session but your suspicion here may have a point too.

True, the question and the oddity is that if for example the person is an ordinary gambler who does not know anything about lottery games then yes I think the chances are very small to actually be able to produce such a winning streak. But on the other hand I think that if the person really has a way or a secret to be able to win that many bets then there is a possibility that the casino where he works goes bankrupt and of course that is something that can harm the casino itself, or the point is that my idea leads to a very small possibility for the casino to share the secret of its winnings with others because it can harm the company.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 04:24:06 AM

Games are easily manipulated therefore lottery as well could be rigged and there's no way any person could win repeatedly for 14 times without missing, and of course there is phishy manipulation behind this otherwise we can't find someone overly winning for that numbers of time.
Or do we say anything is possible?
Well from my knowledge about gambling have never came across such thing being so common and popular where someone do win, although winning gambling doesn't come consistent maybe it could be occasionally.

There might be manipulation here though its really the winner who place his bet and still get the win.
Your best luck might be present if you are able to get a win multiple times and I’d hope to get the same luck. If you are the house and that gambler won multiple times, I’m sure you’ll tell him to stop betting or else your business will bankrupt. This might be a coincidence only and it’s not a continues bet.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on March 26, 2024, 05:47:12 PM

I don't really get the whole concept of this and I definitely think it's rigged, I mean how realistic is this ? It's not even possible to get a winning 4x in a row and not to talk of 14x. I believe the reason for most people not taking part in buying lottery ticket is because they already feel they are wasting their money and time because the possibility and probability of them actually getting the lucky number or ticket in one in a million and am also in same thought with this.

Some rare occurrence do really happen with something like this. I am not yet convinced that this is for real but I am leaning into that belief that this can happen sometimes. But one thing is for sure is that the winner is certainly one of the luckiest person and if that's the strategy that the mathematician was able to dug out and used that to gamble, it may be legal but for sure that the gambling providers should have stopped him when he's seen winning it consecutively for so many times. Usually, gambling operators will not allow someone to win a lot like when more than times already has gone for that gambler and they keep on winning. Well, only time can tell when these bets are really rigged and there might be some investigations that are already happening for it to get some better answers.

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Quote from: wallet4bitcoin on January 02, 2024, 10:08:53 PM

Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230

Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be winner or there is a particular skill needed.

This is 100% some sort of collusion going on. I don't know the numbers behind it but it's almost mathematically impossible to win the lottery that many times. It's happened where people have won 2 or 3 times but it's extremely rare. I don't know if I've ever seen a case of any more than that. So to win 14 tines just isn't possible.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on March 27, 2024, 03:03:20 PM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 04:24:06 AM

Games are easily manipulated therefore lottery as well could be rigged and there's no way any person could win repeatedly for 14 times without missing, and of course there is phishy manipulation behind this otherwise we can't find someone overly winning for that numbers of time.
Or do we say anything is possible?
Well from my knowledge about gambling have never came across such thing being so common and popular where someone do win, although winning gambling doesn't come consistent maybe it could be occasionally.

The reason why I don't believe in this news is because in my opinion overall gambling is always about hit and miss activities and can never be predicted about the results at the end of the session which means you will only win when you are lucky while on the other hand luck is always unknowable when it comes and when it goes and also it is very difficult to achieve a lucky streak of 14x in a row like this, there is no such thing as an element of consistency in terms of luck, because everything is always about "occasional and coincidence", so I think your suspicion is right.

Maybe we can say that person was a staff in another casino where he knows lot of secret behind gambling and lottery how it works and how its being played for someone to keep winning continually. For instance, when when Hard Criminal join's the forces he knows the best way to fetch his follow criminal or alternatively, when a retired military man goes out to join with the criminal he knows the best way to escape force men while on their way going to robe. In summary, if this person doesn't know anything inside the lottery there no way he could win that much so if it was me I need to question him severely.

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Quote from: wallet4bitcoin on January 02, 2024, 10:08:53 PM

Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230

Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be winner or there is a particular skill needed.

Inasmuch as gambling is concerned, no body can win multiple times just by using some kind of mathematical algorithm except you are the one that configured it for you to win even up to 14th time and this is lottery we are talking about here which is very hard to win not to talk more of winning conspicuously, like how is that even possible and since he knew the tricks why didn't he continue till the company invite him to be a share holder with them. If he knows that much why did he now went bankrupt? It's either he was working with the gambling company or they just used him for promoting their betting company and why was it difficult for him to explain his tricks to others?

I have witnessed some people who claims that they got "key" or sequence on how a particular bet plays and they will use that sequence to show you previous outcome and you will confirm that everything worked perfectly fine but that week they will unleash the sequence, a lot of gamblers even non gamblers will rush to play that game but in the end everyone loses in toto (everything) so if they know that much why did the sequence failed after being successful in the previous times, they are probably promoters that are sent by these bookmakers just so that they can deceive the public.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on March 27, 2024, 03:03:20 PM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 04:24:06 AM

Games are easily manipulated therefore lottery as well could be rigged and there's no way any person could win repeatedly for 14 times without missing, and of course there is phishy manipulation behind this otherwise we can't find someone overly winning for that numbers of time.
Or do we say anything is possible?
Well from my knowledge about gambling have never came across such thing being so common and popular where someone do win, although winning gambling doesn't come consistent maybe it could be occasionally.

Although basically nothing is impossible but when it comes to gambling activities then I think yes it is very unlikely to be able to get such a good win with a total of 14 consecutive winning transactions, I don't believe it but I think this is too impossible and if it is true then maybe he is one of the record breakers in this type of betting and I don't know if there is manipulation or not behind the scenes about this victory but one thing, I can't really believe this news.

The reason why I don't believe in this news is because in my opinion overall gambling is always about hit and miss activities and can never be predicted about the results at the end of the session which means you will only win when you are lucky while on the other hand luck is always unknowable when it comes and when it goes and also it is very difficult to achieve a lucky streak of 14x in a row like this, there is no such thing as an element of consistency in terms of luck, because everything is always about "occasional and coincidence", so I think your suspicion is right.

If this one is official or something real then this do really proves out about those probabilities that you could really be able to win up lottery on mathematical calculations on which we know that this one could really be that possible. It is really just that i cant fathom on how they would really be pooling up the funds on buying up tons of lottery tickets on which we know that doing such thing is really that costly or simply talking about millions.
Now that its been that proven out 14 times on winning up the lottery then i wont be shocked if he gets banned with that. Now that its been shown and proven about those probabilities then i doubt that it would really be still existing today or there are ones who do really still be doing it. Im not really that a fan on betting on lotteries but this one really amaze me considering 14x consecutive which isnt something that you could really be that believed on easily.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 04:24:06 AM

Games are easily manipulated therefore lottery as well could be rigged and there's no way any person could win repeatedly for 14 times without missing, and of course there is phishy manipulation behind this otherwise we can't find someone overly winning for that numbers of time.
Or do we say anything is possible?
Well from my knowledge about gambling have never came across such thing being so common and popular where someone do win, although winning gambling doesn't come consistent maybe it could be occasionally.

Although basically nothing is impossible but when it comes to gambling activities then I think yes it is very unlikely to be able to get such a good win with a total of 14 consecutive winning transactions, I don't believe it but I think this is too impossible and if it is true then maybe he is one of the record breakers in this type of betting and I don't know if there is manipulation or not behind the scenes about this victory but one thing, I can't really believe this news.

The reason why I don't believe in this news is because in my opinion overall gambling is always about hit and miss activities and can never be predicted about the results at the end of the session which means you will only win when you are lucky while on the other hand luck is always unknowable when it comes and when it goes and also it is very difficult to achieve a lucky streak of 14x in a row like this, there is no such thing as an element of consistency in terms of luck, because everything is always about "occasional and coincidence", so I think your suspicion is right.

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Quote from: wallet4bitcoin on January 02, 2024, 10:08:53 PM

Navigating through articles online got me attracted to a catchy caption yet disturbing (the link posted below).
I am a stern believer that gambling. Which I believe that lottery is, is purely a game of luck rather than skills or expertise.
How this managed to happen repeatedly for 14 times means it's not just luck, something else must have happened.

https://www.unilad.com/news/mathematician-won-lottery-14-times-317063-20231230

Leave your opinion if you think it's 100% luck to be winner or there is a particular skill needed.

Go for it if you believe in this method, but do not believe in the lottery, just do this based on this formula but I doubt it will go the way you expected.

Since this happened a very long time ago, many people would have been motivated by it, and I wonder why many haven't won thr lottery using the same method, there are only very few mathematicians that beat the lottery system or win a jackpot in a casino using math.

You are free to try but do not get addicted, lottery gives you a fantasy land to live in, and it can keep you locked in for many years to come, make sure it ends once you tried the formula and quit quietly or else you will be trapped in the world just like many lottery fans in the world today.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on March 27, 2024, 04:24:06 AM

Games are easily manipulated therefore lottery as well could be rigged and there's no way any person could win repeatedly for 14 times without missing, and of course there is phishy manipulation behind this otherwise we can't find someone overly winning for that numbers of time.
Or do we say anything is possible?
Well from my knowledge about gambling have never came across such thing being so common and popular where someone do win, although winning gambling doesn't come consistent maybe it could be occasionally.

Well, this is also what I think, even though they can win the lottery 14 times, but can they still do it in different places? in fact he also didn't provide any information and just said that the mathematics was simple, and that was an answer that would raise new questions. Of course they will argue that it's top secret because if everyone knew maybe everyone would be able to get rich, that's a narrative I often hear.
In my place there are still many people who use mathematical calculations for lottery betting, but still the winning percentage is not even greater than the losses they always receive. They did win that bet, but that was only occasionally, if a comparison was made it might be a comparison that had a very big difference.
No one can be sure that everything they say is the truth and no one can be sure that it is manipulation, so actually there are still many unanswered questions.

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Games are easily manipulated therefore lottery as well could be rigged and there's no way any person could win repeatedly for 14 times without missing, and of course there is phishy manipulation behind this otherwise we can't find someone overly winning for that numbers of time.
Or do we say anything is possible?
Well from my knowledge about gambling have never came across such thing being so common and popular where someone do win, although winning gambling doesn't come consistent maybe it could be occasionally.

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