"Stephen Wolfram" says bitcoin creator is known classified material

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Quote from: BitcoinFX on August 05, 2020, 06:46:16 AM

Stephen Wolfram can neither confirm nor deny the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. [citation needed]

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Pretty much this. He claimed it's standard practice in science too. It's a position that doesn't put him at risk, and also since Satoshi is not a known person anyone can contact, his claims can't be proven or disproven.

I can only think about what he'd have to gain from this. Since it was done through one of his streams promoting his proprietary platform I can only safely assume that it was probably a stunt to draw attention.

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Quote from: BitcoinFX on August 05, 2020, 06:46:16 AM

Stephen Wolfram can neither confirm nor deny the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. [citation needed]

So, I guess after he was asked in previous interviews whether he knows the Bitcoin creator, he went home and researched about Bitcoin and came to the conclusion that Bitcoin creator is a classified material and will only be known by secret agents, because he couldn’t figure out who he is?

He should simply admit that he doesn’t know who Satoshi Nakamoto is, I don’t know why people won’t just admit to this, rather they will try to come up with some annoying answers that will make everything to look even more complicated.

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Stephen Wolfram can neither confirm nor deny the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. [citation needed]

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He's talking about an interesting question of accessibility of knowledge. And then he argues that it's not necessary to hide some knowledge to make it inaccessible because in cryptography it's possible to encrypt a message in a way that makes it mathematically impossible to be decrypted, not because there's a secret to decrypting it. And he just mentions that there are basically conspiracy theories that some scientific knowledge is kept from people (something from what he calls 'basic science'), and then there're secrets about the details, such as who created Bitcoin. So after analyzing the video I agree with those who don't see any implications that some agencies know the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.

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Quote from: bjman on August 03, 2020, 02:48:26 PM

He doesn't know shit. He was already asked about bitcoin in a previous interview and he showed he didn't understand squat about it. He's just talking crap.

He talks for nearly 1¹/₂ hours and casually mentions once that the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto is unknown, and that is your response? You didn't even watch the video. You don't know shit. You are just talking crap.

Quote from: Cryptoreflector_666 on August 04, 2020, 03:49:08 AM

I don't know how much you can trust this character. In General, any information stuffing in the post-truth era should be viewed through the prism of common sense. This may be true, or it may be complete nonsense. So I would not trust such information occasions so much.

You are overreacting. You didn't watch the video.

Quote from: serjent05 on August 04, 2020, 04:34:03 AM

Well, this guy is playing it safe while taking the attention of people. Saying that the identity of Satoshi is a classified material ...

You obviously did not watch the video. Your opinion on it is worthless.

Quote from: MarzoB on August 04, 2020, 07:53:33 AM

Smart guy. Getting all the attention but not saying anything specific...

You didn't watch the video. Your opinion on it is worthless.

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Quote from: bjman on August 03, 2020, 02:48:26 PM

He doesn't know shit. He was already asked about bitcoin in a previous interview and he showed he didn't understand squat about it. He's just talking crap.

Well, whether he knows nothing or he knows something, there exist a reason for people to talk about the creator of Bitcoin. And just as the OP stated, everything about the creator of Bitcoin is classified. There is no doubt that people know the creator but due to the nature of the classified information, people must come to talk around it.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on August 04, 2020, 11:00:17 AM

Quote from: pixie85 on August 03, 2020, 05:00:28 PM

Him saying that secret services know who Satoshi is can be compared to all those people who claim that secret services are experimenting on aliens and have a space ship hidden in area 51.

Claiming that agents are controlling everything around us is a theory popular among those who realy don't know much and need an explanation. Another popular theory is that God is in control of our destiny Wink

If bitcoin really takes off during the next decades you can be sure that the identity of satoshi is going to become one of the greatest mysteries of this century as people will wonder who was this person that created the currency of the future, and you can be sure all kind of rumours and legends will begin to emerge about him.

We don't need to wait though, it's been like 3 years that many theories has pop up as to who is satoshi is, CSW for example and many others.

Quote from: wxa7115 on August 04, 2020, 11:00:17 AM

And I will not be surprised if in the future people claim that satoshi was an alien or someone that came from the future or some other ridiculous theory, the truth is satoshi hid himself pretty effectively and there is no reason to believe he will ever comeback and the best part is that his own invention does not need it, as bitcoin has worked quite well despite his disappearance.

Like this one? Do you think Aliens or Artificial Intelligence created Bitcoin?. We may have our own theories who may be satoshi, but that's it, just a supposition of ideas because we really don't know who satoshi is as he left before his creation became so popular.

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Quote from: pixie85 on August 03, 2020, 05:00:28 PM

Him saying that secret services know who Satoshi is can be compared to all those people who claim that secret services are experimenting on aliens and have a space ship hidden in area 51.

Claiming that agents are controlling everything around us is a theory popular among those who realy don't know much and need an explanation. Another popular theory is that God is in control of our destiny Wink

If bitcoin really takes off during the next decades you can be sure that the identity of satoshi is going to become one of the greatest mysteries of this century as people will wonder who was this person that created the currency of the future, and you can be sure all kind of rumours and legends will begin to emerge about him.

And I will not be surprised if in the future people claim that satoshi was an alien or someone that came from the future or some other ridiculous theory, the truth is satoshi hid himself pretty effectively and there is no reason to believe he will ever comeback and the best part is that his own invention does not need it, as bitcoin has worked quite well despite his disappearance.

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Stephen Wolfram is a great person, especially as a computer scientist, physicist, and businessman. But, does he really know about the crypto? especially about the creator of the Bitcoin? So far, some people claim that they are the real Satoshi or they know about Satoshi. So does this person. he also states his opinion. We will not know the truth about his statement whether his statement is true or not. Because nobody knows Satoshi Nakamoto. This is really hidden identity, secret, and not to be revealed because of certain reasons of course. So, should we still discuss about this? SHould it becomes the big news again to reveal? Let's focus on what they have created for us that open adn start the era of blockchain and cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: remotemass on August 03, 2020, 02:39:25 PM

When Stephen Wolfram is asked, in a recent youtube live stream about [timestamp: 40m16s] "How much of Science has kept secret either classified by the military or waiting for monetization inside private research labs?" he gives a five minutes answer and at the end of his answer [timestamp: 44m] he implies that bitcoin's creator is classified material known to Science and/or secret services.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0dA-mwg5-E

May be possible or may not be possible! But why do we give a shit about it? What change it will bring to bitcoin ecosystem? What positive impact we will see in bitcoin if we all know Satoshi's identity!

Satoshi's identity matters much less than his creation. Focus on bitcoin, not on its creator. Science may know a lot of classified information about him but matter least to the community!

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Quote from: remotemass on August 03, 2020, 02:39:25 PM

When Stephen Wolfram is asked, in a recent youtube live stream about [timestamp: 40m16s] "How much of Science has kept secret either classified by the military or waiting for monetization inside private research labs?" he gives a five minutes answer and at the end of his answer [timestamp: 44m] he implies that bitcoin's creator is classified material known to Science and/or secret services.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0dA-mwg5-E

I haven't even watched this video but what I can tell you is *everyone who wants some publicity do use Bitcoin creator as a excuse*

-What we see right here is them trying to hide the fact that they might not be that important to the society anymore.

When are we going to stop bugging over Mr. Satoshi ?
- All we know for a fact is , he does not want any fame , if he wanted he could can very easily addressed the general public. There is a reason why popular people don't like media , let's stop following them footsteps.

Leave the man alone .

Have we learned nothing from Criag Wright?

He did a lot for us , A LOT , if he would want , we would know ~

Bitcoins is an amazing opportunity for people to come together and make something work out other than the centralized fake system that is too corrupted to even begin with .

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Technically bitcoins creator is known and classified. Satoshi had to register his website(s) and he did so using a service which keeps his/her/their identity private. Imagine having access to that info. Would just be cool to know, though I hope no one ever finds out who satoshi is.

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Quote from: jseverson on August 04, 2020, 04:09:02 AM

Thanks for pointing this out! I'm guessing people couldn't be assed to verify because it's in video format lol.

Classic bitcointalk, people talking about the subject but can't be arsed to watch few minutes of the video. If they did, they would see that guy didn't see anything remotely close to what op claims.

Quote from: jseverson on August 04, 2020, 04:09:02 AM

There shouldn't be any reason for them to look into his identity considering he can't really control Bitcoin, and he was never a controversial figure anyway. He also disappeared before Bitcoin was little more than an experimental currency.

Even if governments looked into that (since governments do like to meddle into the things, especially those that they don't control directly) and tried to figure out is behind Bitcoin, I'm pretty obvious that Satoshi Nakamoto is smart enough to cover his tracks and stay anonymous, as obviously that's what he wanted right from the beginning.

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I am almost sure that no one will ever know anything about the creator of bitcoin.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 03, 2020, 05:25:57 PM

Well, you can't just criticize this person for saying Satoshi is a classified material. I mean this guy right in front of us is known to be a computer scientist. So, he probably is a believable subject when It comes to the field of computer science.

Yes it is, he might know something that we don't know but for credibility I don't trust him as of now coz honestly I just knew his name today and after some basic search about him, I found that he is computer scientist but still I don't believe in him, and I bet either you would believe in less popular computer scientist. He did not even mention anything of what abouts, anything specific or pointed to bitcoin in the entire video.
For all the times that we are talking about Satoshi, aren't we tired of digging the truth bout him? lol. I'd rather assume that he is dead than watching this guy spitting some "conspiracy".

Quote from: Oasisman on August 03, 2020, 05:25:57 PM

Now, his response to the question is the safest answer than those people who claimed to be Satoshi or knew Satoshi personally. His answer by far is more believable than the other theories.
Nevertheless, nobody knows Satoshi and that's what I believe.

I believe that no one really knows who Satoshi is, even the most classified agencies in the world, they could not find him in any way coz if there's one hole that will lead to Satoshi, crypto enthusiasts will be the one that will find it.

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Well he may had some point because bitcoin is undetectable when it comes to transfer of funds whenever intel would like to investigate something internationally or may it be local. Without using the bank system that can be trace or could be reported by the banks then it would make the job of the military easier when it comes to funding a certain project or activities outside their jurisdiction. Bitcoin could be something great that had known to military service and now being shared in the community. High chances that Satoshi Nakamoto is just a name of group created this system surely being used by the military service. This is why government had been knowing its full potential if it can be adapted to the system. The government had been always after the bitcoin. Higher chances that they made a huge interest in bitcoin on how they can earn on it.

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Smart guy. Getting all the attention but not saying anything specific. I seriously doubt that this info is known by anyone.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on August 04, 2020, 06:34:16 AM

At this point, it can be safely assuming that anyone who knows the identity of Satoshi is just a liar or a scammer. If someone truly knows who is Satoshi, they either would have told us already or will keep their mouth shut. And the chances of intentionally discovering him are already almost non-existent, because everyone had tried everything already.

A logical interpretation:

If Satoshi Nakamoto is a target of almost everyone in crypto space and governments, the one who truly knows who is Satoshi Nakamoto and publicly announce about it will be a secondary target.

If one person does not want to face with annoying things and even bigger risks of personal attacks, he or she is smart enough to maintain silence, as same as the past 10 years and a half.

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At this point, it can be safely assuming that anyone who knows the identity of Satoshi is just a liar or a scammer. If someone truly knows who is Satoshi, they either would have told us already or will keep their mouth shut. And the chances of intentionally discovering him are already almost non-existent, because everyone had tried everything already.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 03, 2020, 03:02:10 PM

Never heard of this guy before to be honest. Do you actually believe this guy despite knowing the fact that Satoshi has stayed anonymous all these years and will probably stay that way forever?

So many people try to capitalize on the popularity of the BTC creator for their own reasons and this guy is clearly one of them.

At this point, even if the legit Satoshi comes forward and claims that he is the real deal, majority of the world would still doubt him and ask him to prove his legitimacy. This is how crazy this entire mystery has become over the years.

Well, this guy is playing it safe while taking the attention of people. Saying that the identity of Satoshi is a classified material is the safest way of pretending to know everything even though he knows nothing. I think what he stated is just his own put up scenario. But well, who knows, he might be speaking the truth.

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