Stolen BTC(e)'s using mixer to laundry

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Quote from: richardsNY on July 28, 2017, 01:46:20 PM

Quote from: chickenfried12 on July 27, 2017, 07:59:52 AM

So possibly U.S officials just stopped the access of exchange/change ..

I quite doubt that. If they have indeed taken over control of their servers and everything, we at least would see a statement on the front page stating that it has been taken down by x agency -- that's how things go usually. I seriously think that the co starter/partner of btc-e is still in full control of everything. But then again, what value does it have when the exchange might never pop up allowing people to cash out? Zero. Not that I believe much will change, but there is not much to do other than to wait what will happen in the coming 5-10 days as btc-e stated.

Well, we can now see the takedown/seizure message on btc-e.com. Maybe hasn't propagated yet to btc-e.nz, etc. or maybe they only seized the .com. I don't think Vinnik is anybody -- an early whale/investor or low level admin at most. Definitely not an owner according to insiders. But it doesn't matter. Shutting down the site (even if they couldn't seize any funds) means that it isn't worth it for the owners/admins to pay the fine and try to continue operation. They will be in too much danger. I wish there was a way that users could be repaid but, there just isn't any logical reason for it to happen. Undecided

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Quote from: richardsNY on July 28, 2017, 01:46:20 PM

Quote from: chickenfried12 on July 27, 2017, 07:59:52 AM

So possibly U.S officials just stopped the access of exchange/change ..

I quite doubt that. If they have indeed taken over control of their servers and everything, we at least would see a statement on the front page stating that it has been taken down by x agency -- that's how things go usually. I seriously think that the co starter/partner of btc-e is still in full control of everything. But then again, what value does it have when the exchange might never pop up allowing people to cash out? Zero. Not that I believe much will change, but there is not much to do other than to wait what will happen in the coming 5-10 days as btc-e stated.

I doubt that his partner (if any) will continue run the btc-e with such news, even agency will not against them again after that, but the potential still there. Also community will not trust them to hold their asset and trade there. Just say goodbye for btc-e

And if there still any fund that not control by agency, i think those will be stolen (read: keep it safe) by someone inside

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Quote from: sil2222 on July 27, 2017, 08:02:27 AM

I will Miss BTC E Troll Box humor specially during large dumps and Trolls start panicking best laughs,but im glad this guy is caught if he really participated in Mt GOX.

This is still under investigation and I am quite curious about this theory regarding bitcoin from mt gox getting through his address. Might be he wasn't involved on that hack directly but might be he made few connections to buy those bitcoin cheap from hacker and later sell them to btc-e users to clean it and get huge profit.

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Quote from: chickenfried12 on July 27, 2017, 07:59:52 AM

So possibly U.S officials just stopped the access of exchange/change ..

I quite doubt that. If they have indeed taken over control of their servers and everything, we at least would see a statement on the front page stating that it has been taken down by x agency -- that's how things go usually. I seriously think that the co starter/partner of btc-e is still in full control of everything. But then again, what value does it have when the exchange might never pop up allowing people to cash out? Zero. Not that I believe much will change, but there is not much to do other than to wait what will happen in the coming 5-10 days as btc-e stated.

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There is no proof that this address is actually of btce , reason if you notice daily there are so many transactions taking place who's value is more than 30000 bitcoin , about mixing site can't really blame them as their purpose is only to provide a service in exchange of a fees and they are doing their job. Many people are caught have illegal property's but no blames the builder or the seller for same way mixing site is a seller in this case you can't blame them. The fact the owner has been arrested so maybe this can some true facts only time will tell what actually happened

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Quote from: ask on July 26, 2017, 01:18:06 AM

It seems Btc-e hacked and hackers erasing traces.
here is a proof : https://blockchain.info/address/18f1yugoAJuXcHAbsuRVLQC9TezJ6iVRLp

its really interesting that meanwhile bitmixer announced that they shut off.

Total of 66k BTC stolen.
will see btc price will crash soon.

Unfortunately, rather than bitcoin price to drop, we are seeing a gradual improvement in price which is something I see as a good sign to the crypto-world. I think the blame you not be on the mixing services as you connoting here because they are offering their services and it is the duty of the administrators of the sites to keep such safe in the first place and everything about the mixing of coins is not about stolen coins as some individuals prefer to stay below the radar.

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Implications of this will be much greater and this is final sign for us that centralized exchanges are bad for us and for all crypto..We must abandon them slowly and adopt only those which can provide us Private keys as minimum of assurance. Much better would be complete decentralization. It will be much slower but, security and freedom are expensive for those who fighting for it!

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Quote from: glon on July 26, 2017, 11:36:50 AM

Both guys have "1967" on their T-shirts (the fat guy in blue arresting the thin guy in black). Coincidence?

https://thebitcoinnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Alexander-Vinnik-admin-of-BTC-e-arrested-in-Greece-for-4-billion-in-Bitcoin-money-laundering.-696x449.jpg

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailythess.gr%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F07%2Falexander_vinnik-2.jpg&t=579&c=Hpd6PH1YNis8tQ

Ha ha. Good eyes.

Is that a coincidence o they wear same uniform?

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I will Miss BTC E Troll Box humor specially during large dumps and Trolls start panicking best laughs,but im glad this guy is caught if he really participated in Mt GOX.

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Suspected Reason for btce down: U.S authorities has ordered an arrest of a Russiaman for money laundering and ransomeware.
and it has been noticed that all the bitcoin he deposited are linked to bitcoin . So possibly U.S officials just stopped the access of exchange/change ..

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Quote from: adam1230 on July 27, 2017, 03:25:17 AM

Maybe this will save Greece Economics HuH?

Hehe, Greece economics saved by bitcoin, nothing could be a better marketing

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However you cannot connect to the site and it is evident that something is happening. I hope this won't be GOX-2 i have some funds there, and now cold sweat is not my only concern..They were very secured exchange, but as we can see there in no such thing..

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this was a crazy theory came up true. Nice catch OP!

here some details :
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/suspect-of-mt-gox-hack-and-money-laundering-is-alleged-btc-e-admin-arrested-in-greece/

So everythings now more clear. BTC-e was the lowest price market for BTC. And I remember they always dumped after MTGOX
Now everybody ask that where is cold wallet of BTC-e?
They didnt dumped YET.
I guess Alexander keeps his own Trezor inside of his pocket.

Maybe this will save Greece Economics HuH?

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on July 27, 2017, 01:25:53 AM

there is a lot of "maybe"s in these articles that makes my head spin

it seems like the only reason why they say "Alexander Vinnik" is an admin (owner,...) of btc-e is because there is someone with the same first name "Alexander" in btc-e so they say they may be the same person. and "Alexander" is a very common name in many countries. and for all we know it was a pseudo name like Satoshi!

... and btc-e is still down Cheesy

I'm sorry too many coincidences imho. The guy arrested named. The site going down. The cold wallet disappearing....fun times.

thus

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there is a lot of "maybe"s in these articles that makes my head spin

it seems like the only reason why they say "Alexander Vinnik" is an admin (owner,...) of btc-e is because there is someone with the same first name "Alexander" in btc-e so they say they may be the same person. and "Alexander" is a very common name in many countries. and for all we know it was a pseudo name like Satoshi!

... and btc-e is still down Cheesy

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on July 26, 2017, 09:59:25 PM

The authorities are going after everyone in one blow and one by one they fall. Alphabay, Bitmixer and now BTCe. They also have given a warning on ICOs not to break more laws than they have during the time of their statement.

But BTC-e have nothing to deal with Bitmixer or Aphabay, its a recognized exchange that pays its taxes, right ?

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Quote from: glon on July 26, 2017, 11:36:50 AM

Both guys have "1967" on their T-shirts (the fat guy in blue arresting the thin guy in black). Coincidence?

https://thebitcoinnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Alexander-Vinnik-admin-of-BTC-e-arrested-in-Greece-for-4-billion-in-Bitcoin-money-laundering.-696x449.jpg

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailythess.gr%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F07%2Falexander_vinnik-2.jpg&t=579&c=Hpd6PH1YNis8tQ

That's a -most probably- completely irrelevant fact but an extremely good catch!

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The authorities are going after everyone in one blow and one by one they fall. Alphabay, Bitmixer and now BTCe. They also have given a warning on ICOs not to break more laws than they have during the time of their statement.

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Quote from: DaMut on July 26, 2017, 02:12:14 PM

Quote from: ask on July 26, 2017, 11:49:16 AM

Now my actual "stupid" theory turns "clever"
But still there is questions on timing of bitmixer
Its really meaningfull

as far as i know their closing it voluntarily,no ?
Because globally governments are putting pressure on mixers to close their services (Obviously money laundy activity),
that's all what i heard from their statement,
althought the timing closing of bitmixer and arrested Alexander Vinnik are same.
if it's real why only them and no other mixer closing their services too ?
let's make a wild guess,Alexander Vinnik using their services to mixing his Bitcoin and then FBI arrested him and then asked him where's his Bitcoin.
or FBI tracking a large transaction on Bitmixer then arresting Alexander Vinnik because of money laundry ?
it's possible about this my wild guesses?

Some sources dare to say Vinnik is basically the guy who "hacked" or laundered MtGox coins ...
Quite a charge, if proven true.

See the thread link i posted above for details / source.

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Quote from: ask on July 26, 2017, 11:49:16 AM

Now my actual "stupid" theory turns "clever"
But still there is questions on timing of bitmixer
Its really meaningfull

as far as i know their closing it voluntarily,no ?
Because globally governments are putting pressure on mixers to close their services (Obviously money laundy activity),
that's all what i heard from their statement,
althought the timing closing of bitmixer and arrested Alexander Vinnik are same.
if it's real why only them and no other mixer closing their services too ?
let's make a wild guess,Alexander Vinnik using their services to mixing his Bitcoin and then FBI arrested him and then asked him where's his Bitcoin.
or FBI tracking a large transaction on Bitmixer then arresting Alexander Vinnik because of money laundry ?
it's possible about this my wild guesses?

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